May 8th, 2008
08:17 AM ET
14 years ago

Michigan Dems send latest delegate plan to DNC

[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/POLITICS/05/06/primaries.change/art.voting.flag.in.ap.jpg caption="Michigan Democrats have accepted a new compromise."](CNN) - Michigan’s Democrats have accepted a compromise proposal in their latest attempt to ensure their state will be represented at this summer’s Democratic National Convention, CNN has confirmed.

The state party has voted to sign on to a plan devised a week-and-a-half ago by the working group seeking ways to end the impasse, including Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Sen. Carl Levin, Democratic National Committee Member Debbie Dingell and United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger.

The group urged the Democratic National Committee to seat the Michigan delegation under a formula that would give a 10-delegate edge to Hillary Clinton, and allow all 157 delegates and superdelegates to be seated this summer.

Clinton was the only major candidate to appear on the ballot in the state’s January contest, which she won with 55 percent of the vote. No delegates were awarded because of national party penalties on Michigan Democrats for moving up their primary date. Forty percent of January’s primary voters chose the “uncommitted” option on the ballot; a majority of those “uncommitted” delegates are backing Barack Obama.

Clinton’s campaign has said that the results of the January vote – which would give her an 18-delegate edge, 73-55 – should count. Obama’s campaign had said the delegates should be split evenly, 64-64. Another compromise plan submitted by DNC member Joel Ferguson – which would have given half a vote to each pledged delegate, and a full vote to each superdelegate – had been opposed by the Michigan working group.

Under the latest proposal adopted by the state party, which splits the difference between the Obama and Clinton proposals, the state’s 128 pledged delegates would be split 69-59, with the majority going to Hillary Clinton. Michigan Democrats has asked the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee – which meets at the end of the month – to consider the plan.

If both campaigns do not agree on the compromise, the issue will head to the DNC’s Credentials Committee for a resolution.


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  1. Walls

    If I could give any advice to Howard Dean, I would tell him to start going "winner takes all" in the next election after I slapped him upside his head for being the soul reason why this party cannot get ahead.

    Only in the Democratic party can a nomination be given on 48 states. The Democratic party [even aside from Obama and Clinton] cannot get along. Everyone is snapping at everyone. The party seriously needs to get their act together.

    One thing I find funny about Barack Obama is that Sen. Barack Obama's campaign has been particularly vociferous in claiming that its candidate stands for a transformative, participatory new politics and yet he's so hard on making sure the MI and FL delegates are either not counted or split evenly. It's Barack's own fault that his name wasn't on the ballots in Michigan after he voluntarily took it off. His campaign even advertised in Florida. Same old politics, my friends.

    May 8, 2008 09:29 am at 9:29 am |
  2. KJR

    ....and history will look back on this as the "hanging chad" story of the 2008 election

    May 8, 2008 09:29 am at 9:29 am |
  3. Mary

    This would be wrong. Senator Clinton knew the deal on Florida and Michigan. To do this would be breaking the rules for her. How do you think this looks? Would you break the rules for Senator Obama?

    May 8, 2008 09:29 am at 9:29 am |
  4. NickNas

    How does this figure??? How do they come to this figure when Obama wasn't even on the Ballot? This is just Political pandering to Hillarys bitter supporters. ANY 6 year old can see you can't win a game when only one person plays.

    6 year old: " I beat you at tetherball yesterday ay recess while you were home sick"

    Other 6 year old: " Ok so I will admit now you are better than me"

    See how SILLY you people sound???

    May 8, 2008 09:29 am at 9:29 am |
  5. Independant

    I believe that now is the time that Obama steps up and agrees to this plan. He is at a point in the campaign that this would not hurt him, and he can step up and say let's seat this state and give in and do the right thing. It will also show that he is willing to compromise and find a resolution to the problem. That is what he is touting as his stance on most of our current ptoblems that we face. This would be a good move for him. It would also take some of the steam out of Hillarys argument that he is the won that is keeping MI. and FL's people's voices out of this race.

    May 8, 2008 09:33 am at 9:33 am |
  6. Kaye- Jacksonville FL

    Michigan delegates shouldn't be seated at all. Their Democratic governor and legislature changed the primary date knowing the sanctions would be severe. Clinton was the sole candidate on the ballot. They disenfranchised themselves!

    As for Florida, our Republican governor and legislature did the dirty deed and Obama was on the ballot. One could argue, give them both their elected portion of delegates. But if Florida is seated, what about the other 48 states that played by the rules? Heaven forbid, in the next election states will be moving their primaries and caucuses to whatever date they choose – the primary season could begin on Inauguration Day!

    I don't envy the DNC rules committee on May 31 – there's no way on God's green earth to resolve without screaming from one state or the other, much less the two campaigns!

    May 8, 2008 09:34 am at 9:34 am |
  7. democrats unit

    Clinton is a fighter but it seems increasingly clear she is more concerned with fighting for her own ambition rather than fighting for the democratic party and fighting john mccain. Clinton supporters should really look inside and think what Clinton is trying to gain by continuing this race. I feel as though if you are a true democrat first and hillary supporter second, you will see that it is time for democrats to rally around the person who after 42 primaries is ahead by 160 delegates.

    I hope clinton supporters will see the light. Obama supporters are our neighbors and we should all unite. The greatest evil to this country is a bush 3rd term and that is exactly what John Mccain is running on. If a democrat is president, we will be able to literally investigate Bush, Cheney, and the rest of the neocons and I wouldnt' be surprised if they are tried for war crimes and crimes against the constitution. I am waiting for the day that these criminals are behind bars for ripping the fabric of what makes this country so great.

    May 8, 2008 09:36 am at 9:36 am |
  8. Atiya

    this proposal is absurd. anyone with a shred of integrity knows that the elections in florida and michigan were ethically compromised for the exact same reason that the media is not allowed to project winners based on exit polling until the polls close.

    any election where the voters have predetermined knowledge about results is a complete sham. florida and michigan voters knew, before their primaries, that their delegates would not be seated thanks to broken DNC rules. seating their delegates in any proportion besides 50/50 is overtly fraudulent and WILL be taken to the supreme court. PERIOD.

    May 8, 2008 09:36 am at 9:36 am |
  9. Deb n Texas

    That cow is going to get 10 delegates, like I have a whole in my head.
    SHE WAS THE ONLY CANDIDATE ON THE BALLOT. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT STUPID!

    May 8, 2008 09:37 am at 9:37 am |
  10. MI 4 Obama

    OBAMA'S NAME WAS NOT ON THE BALLOT!
    HILLARY KNOWS THE RULES AND BROKE THEM! SHE DISENFRANCHISED THE VOTERS IN FL n MI!
    THE WORLD IS WATCHING!! LETS SEE IF THE RULES AND POLICIES OF THE DNC CHANGE MID STREAM BECAUSE HILLARY SAY SO!
    LIKE THAT JUDGE IN HILLARY'S FRAUD CASE WITH PETER PAUL.

    May 8, 2008 09:37 am at 9:37 am |
  11. Kyu Reisch, Radcliff, Kentucky

    Obama pulled out his name from ballot, nobody asked, it was his choice and judgement, he didn't deserve delegates because Hillary supporters raise the money to revote, Obama didn't accepted, it was his choice too. Hillary should get the most of Michigan delegates and whatever won from Florida too. That is fair, without Florida and Michigan, DNC will fail the General Electin. Hillary should get whatever she earned from the voters. Obama is not electable, he will fail too. Go Hillary, DNC is stupid, keep fighting. You will win.

    May 8, 2008 09:40 am at 9:40 am |
  12. Ada

    No, we are not going to accept anything that would give her an egde.
    Divide it 50/50 because Barak was not on the ballot.

    From Obama supporter

    May 8, 2008 09:40 am at 9:40 am |
  13. Yes we can!

    I THINK IT'S SAD THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS SETTING A BAD EXAMPLE FOR THE REST OF THE US......YOU BROKE THE RULES, THERE WAS NOTHING CONFUSING ABOUT THE RULES...YOU WERE DEFIANT BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT HILLARY WAS GOING TO WRAP THE NOMINEE UP EARLY.....I FEEL BAD FOR THE VOTERS THAT CAME OUT, BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT THE BLAME WHERE IT BELONGS ON MICHIGAN LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS....IT'S ALSO SAD THAT OBAMA IS BEING USED AS THE "NEGATIVE" CANDIDATE ON THIS ISSUE. THEY BOTH AGREED TO THE RULES AND IT'S ONLY AN ISSUE BECAUSE HILLARY IS BEHIND. IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING FAIR OR NOT DISENFRANCHISING THE VOTERS...IT'S ALL ABOUT ME ME ME......

    May 8, 2008 09:41 am at 9:41 am |
  14. Jeanne from Michigan

    Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm hijacked the Primary in Michigan. She's Clinton's State Campaign Chair. All the candidates agreed the keep their names off the MI ballot in accord the with the DNC sanctions. But Hillary put her name back on at the last minute, at the urging of Granholm. Clinton supporters were telling voters to vote for her, because this was a "beauty contest" and wouldn't count. This was such a blatant attempt to disenfranchise the black voters in Detroit. I am a white woman from the suburbs of Detroit even I could see that.

    May 8, 2008 09:42 am at 9:42 am |
  15. Farrell, Houston, Tx

    Hillary meets with approximately 7 superdelegates on Wednesday and didn't reveal what they discussed and now it's the Michigan democrats accepting a new compromise. I believe voters have the right to know what was said in Hillary's meeting as well as what's being revealed as an acceptance by Michigan democrats. The DNC is leaving itself wide open to speculation of mistrust and a strong possibility of hurting the party even more so. DEMOCRAT VOTERS NEED TO BE INFORMED THRU THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND NOT HAVING BITS AND PIECES DRIBBLED DOWN AS AN ATTEMPT TO DISTORT OR TELL THE TRUTH. THIS CAN BE THE BEGINNING FOR THE END OF BRINGING THE PARTY TOGETHER. DO THE RIGHT THING, PLEASE.

    May 8, 2008 09:44 am at 9:44 am |
  16. Lana

    I am not sure why all of this is going on. When you break rules there are consequences and Michigan should suffer the consequences. They knew first hand what would happen if they broke the rules. The democratic party is looking less and less credible and this would just add insult to injury.

    May 8, 2008 09:46 am at 9:46 am |
  17. Kel in Auburn, AL

    So in a state where Obama was on the ballot and she didn't even get a respectable amount of vote from the people that did turn out, Hillary still wins? Yeah, right. That's fair.

    May 8, 2008 09:46 am at 9:46 am |
  18. H Martin

    I don't think it should happen. You can not change the rules 1/2 way through the game. That is like telling a child well you needed the money you put in the bank, but the bank is closed. Go ahead and break into the bank, the vault and then say well it was my money I just wanted it out. What a message to send to the children of this country.
    Play by the rules that you agreed to at the beginning and deal with the outcome.
    I know waiting for moderation I doubt you will print this CNN.

    May 8, 2008 09:47 am at 9:47 am |
  19. proud army and navy mom

    ok, give them to her. old girl can't catch up, even if she receives more delegates however unfairly.
    but democratic party leaders, stop pandering to the clintons!
    rules are rules and they were agreed on by all the candidates.
    you leaders are beginning to work my patience.

    May 8, 2008 09:49 am at 9:49 am |
  20. Obama supporter

    If we give in as a party and allow their votes to count, in 2012 it will total chaios with all states doing whatever they want.

    May 8, 2008 09:50 am at 9:50 am |
  21. Mikki, Washington, DC

    Why should the delegates have any vote? If the delegates are seated, then the DNC should be prepared to have this type of nonsense occur again and again.

    May 8, 2008 09:50 am at 9:50 am |
  22. Dan (TX)

    Utter crap! Only one name on the ballot – give me a break! Is this the Soviet Union or what?

    MI broke the rules and should pay the price for their arrogance – they can all stay home and watch the convention on TV.

    Same goes for Florida.

    Follow party rules – votes count. Break party rules – votes DON'T count. Plain and simple.

    Try again in 4 years.....

    May 8, 2008 09:51 am at 9:51 am |
  23. Fredi in Illinois

    I think Obama should accept. The Michigan party wants it, it does not hurt him, it may begin the healing in the party, it seems "fair" – what does fair mean anyway in a primary that Hillary openly declared would not count and now she accuses Obama of disenfranchising voters ... look at the turnout in Michigan compared to the other contests where voters knew theit votes would count. It is very clear that many did not vote because they knew it would not count – let's get this issue off the table and move on to defeat McCain.

    May 8, 2008 09:51 am at 9:51 am |
  24. Anonymus

    If the goal is representation at the convention, then 64-64 makes the most sense. The people can be there, but the votes cancel each other out and the states primary will still be null and void as agreed on. The way Hillary likes to look at voting shows she's from Chicago, where the dead can still have a voice and vote.

    May 8, 2008 09:52 am at 9:52 am |
  25. Laura Kolodziej

    This 'plan' is insulting to me, a Michigan voter. We did not get a full ballot therefore Clinton did not 'win' Michigan as she keeps claiming. Either we get a re-vote or nobody is seated at the convention. Please honor the VOTERS.

    May 8, 2008 09:53 am at 9:53 am |
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