May 8th, 2008
08:17 AM ET
14 years ago

Michigan Dems send latest delegate plan to DNC

[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/POLITICS/05/06/primaries.change/art.voting.flag.in.ap.jpg caption="Michigan Democrats have accepted a new compromise."](CNN) - Michigan’s Democrats have accepted a compromise proposal in their latest attempt to ensure their state will be represented at this summer’s Democratic National Convention, CNN has confirmed.

The state party has voted to sign on to a plan devised a week-and-a-half ago by the working group seeking ways to end the impasse, including Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Sen. Carl Levin, Democratic National Committee Member Debbie Dingell and United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger.

The group urged the Democratic National Committee to seat the Michigan delegation under a formula that would give a 10-delegate edge to Hillary Clinton, and allow all 157 delegates and superdelegates to be seated this summer.

Clinton was the only major candidate to appear on the ballot in the state’s January contest, which she won with 55 percent of the vote. No delegates were awarded because of national party penalties on Michigan Democrats for moving up their primary date. Forty percent of January’s primary voters chose the “uncommitted” option on the ballot; a majority of those “uncommitted” delegates are backing Barack Obama.

Clinton’s campaign has said that the results of the January vote – which would give her an 18-delegate edge, 73-55 – should count. Obama’s campaign had said the delegates should be split evenly, 64-64. Another compromise plan submitted by DNC member Joel Ferguson – which would have given half a vote to each pledged delegate, and a full vote to each superdelegate – had been opposed by the Michigan working group.

Under the latest proposal adopted by the state party, which splits the difference between the Obama and Clinton proposals, the state’s 128 pledged delegates would be split 69-59, with the majority going to Hillary Clinton. Michigan Democrats has asked the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee – which meets at the end of the month – to consider the plan.

If both campaigns do not agree on the compromise, the issue will head to the DNC’s Credentials Committee for a resolution.


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soundoff (395 Responses)
  1. Bull

    Clinton, you might think that you are better among the remaining 3 and will be a good president.. but what you think doesn't matter. What the people of America think matters.

    May 8, 2008 10:17 am at 10:17 am |
  2. Dan , TX

    Ok, good for Clinton, good for Obama. Very fair.

    Obama '08

    May 8, 2008 10:17 am at 10:17 am |
  3. George

    Michigan has it wrong. You can't win or lose a race when you are the only one running. We have seen that in all races contested by both candidates, Obama has consistently closed the gap to a narrower margin than shown in the initial polls. Giving any candidate an advantage based on the results of an invalid contest is unwise. The only compromise that makes sense is to split the delegates 50/50 between both parties.

    May 8, 2008 10:18 am at 10:18 am |
  4. Missouri

    It is only right that FL & Michigan get to vote. They are part of our country!

    May 8, 2008 10:19 am at 10:19 am |
  5. Hm

    In all fairness the split should be 50/50.

    May 8, 2008 10:21 am at 10:21 am |
  6. Susan, PA

    So, Hillary and Michigan get rewarded for breaking the rules?

    Everyone agreed to the rules before any votes were cast, and although I do think FL & MI should not be entirely excluded from the process, votes cast in their primary should not count.

    Aren't we at all concerned about the precedent we are setting for future elections?

    Anything more than a 50/50 split is inequitable and Obama shouldn't sign on to it.

    May 8, 2008 10:21 am at 10:21 am |
  7. brad

    I say give it to her. This 10 delegate edge. However, kind of sad. Almost like giving a crying kid some candy only so the child will calm down.

    May 8, 2008 10:21 am at 10:21 am |
  8. Eddie

    I say the DNC should accept this to shut up the Hillary supporters and allow the process to end.

    May 8, 2008 10:21 am at 10:21 am |
  9. LoveOBAMA

    I do not agree with this. Clinton should not get ANY edge, when she broke rules and Obama was not even on the ballot. Why is everyone sympathyzing and trying to hand Hillary votes. This is pathetic. Delegates shoul be split down the middle. 79/78. Clinton can have 1 extra delegate for being a sore loser. If Obama agrees to this it needs to be at the end of MAy or after last primary so that it does not matter.

    May 8, 2008 10:21 am at 10:21 am |
  10. Doug

    Regardless of how you feel about the rules surrounding the Michigan and Florida primaries, the rules were in place and they chose to forge ahead. You can't change the rules in mid-stream, ESPECIALLY if it alters the apparent result.
    If the delegates from the two states want to be seated and counted, then award the delegates on a 50-50 basis, That way, at least they are at the convention and have a voice.
    Now if Obama had gotten on the ballot in both states and had campaigned appropriately, then we could consider reintroducing those delegates. But the way it stands now, it simply wouldn't be fair.

    May 8, 2008 10:21 am at 10:21 am |
  11. Pete

    I was taught to play by the rules, not change them when convenient.

    May 8, 2008 10:22 am at 10:22 am |
  12. Brian M., Allentown, PA

    How do we know that some of the 55% wouldn't have voted for Obama if he was on the ballot?

    Either give them each half of the delegates, have a re-vote, or leave the votes out altogether. These are the only realistic ideas that would work.

    The same thing goes for Florida.

    Yes, the people of the two states feel robbed of their votes, but it's their state leaders that are to blame for this mess.

    May 8, 2008 10:22 am at 10:22 am |
  13. king

    hi,am not a democratic party member not
    even american
    but is not right to
    change the rule of a party
    because of one person
    the future of the
    party is more important for
    what ever position you take

    May 8, 2008 10:23 am at 10:23 am |
  14. Sharon Minnesota

    Correction on previous post. Should have read Michigan not Florida.

    May 8, 2008 10:23 am at 10:23 am |
  15. Al

    Fred – Most of you hillary democrats are women or men who wish they were women. As soon as hillary tells you to vote for Obama, you'll do it. Why? Because you guys are spineless and probably sit down when you pee.

    May 8, 2008 10:23 am at 10:23 am |
  16. obamacrat

    This seems like the best plan that has been introduced to settle Michigan. If the state party is going to sign on this plan, I think Clinton and Obama should as well and let's move on to figuring out Florida.

    May 8, 2008 10:23 am at 10:23 am |
  17. dee

    50 50 for Michigan...a for florida she could have more delegates

    May 8, 2008 10:23 am at 10:23 am |
  18. Jason

    Obama should OK this. It can show everyone he wants to hear their voice and doesn't risk giving up too much

    May 8, 2008 10:23 am at 10:23 am |
  19. brenda ,minnesota

    dear debbie dingal,
    Obama is not calling you looking for a super because you and your democrat state party tried to game the system and then told everyone when it didn't work that you will punish the dnc. please support senator clinton, do not vote for senator Obama. Your whinning that senator Obama has not called you looking for the sd vote is embarrissing.

    May 8, 2008 10:24 am at 10:24 am |
  20. Kevin Leo (Jonesboro, GA)

    I am not opposed to Michigan and Florida being seated at the convention but they need to be penalized to prevent other states from thinking it is okay to follow suit in future elections.This not about benefiting Hillary or hurting Barack, rules need to be followed. I think that they should bother lose half of their delegates and then they can use the results of their "primaries" to award the remaining. While this would still benefit Hillary, it would not have as agreat an impact. either way, we have to find a way to get them seated, period.

    May 8, 2008 10:25 am at 10:25 am |
  21. Harish

    As an foreigner watching this Democratic race for Nomination, It baffles me why the DNC is even willing to look into the option of seating those delegates from Michigan and Florida! They clearly broke the rules of the DNC on the dates holding their primaries.

    Just because one candidate wants it to be done for "her" benefit, it is a shame on Democratic Party and America that the rules can be changed halfway.

    The world is watching this closely and this shows that even America is not above "Petty Politics from Self Centred politicians"

    God Bless.

    May 8, 2008 10:26 am at 10:26 am |
  22. Glenn

    I think it is a great plan, especially if the DNC times it so that the Michigan votes that Obama receives ("even with Hillary's ten delegate edge") still gives him the outright nomination. I think it would be poetic justice for Hillary and Michigan to still be the losers after they thumbed their noses at the rest of us and clearly broke Democratic rules. Tick tock tick tock! Time, money and voters are simply running out for Hillary! Hillary so sad!

    May 8, 2008 10:26 am at 10:26 am |
  23. Will

    Fred, you are a stupid pig. Go vote for McCain and 100 years of war, poverty and failure. You're the type of jerk who takes a handout form the government with his right hand and slaps it with his left.

    May 8, 2008 10:27 am at 10:27 am |
  24. MAry McDonald

    Why should Hillary get 10 more delegates than Obama? Obama wasn't even on the ballot. If seated, they should be split EVENLY! And Hillary should be glad for the even split. As more people come to know and understand Obama, he might even actually deserve more than half the delegates. I am a Republican so it doesn't really matter to me, but fair is fair! Why should Hillary get more??? No reason!

    May 8, 2008 10:27 am at 10:27 am |
  25. NG

    That's fine... That would put Obama at 1904... If FL gets seated somewhat similarly, he'll get even closer to the magic number. He's going to rope-a-dope his way into the nomination.

    May 8, 2008 10:27 am at 10:27 am |
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