May 10th, 2008
11:18 AM ET
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What might West Virginia's primary mean?

Sen. Hillary Clinton campaigns in West Virginia.

Sen. Hillary Clinton campaigns in West Virginia.

CHARLESTON, West Virginia (CNN) - West Virginians will head to the polls Tuesday for the state's Democratic primary between Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. But what will the vote there really mean after new delegate totals show Obama with a sizable lead?

Some say it could send a sobering message to Obama's Democratic supporters.

West Virginia is expected to go for Clinton big time - and the polls show it.

Clinton has a 43-point advantage over Obama, 66 percent to 23 percent, according to a survey from the American Research Group released Friday.

The poll was conducted after Tuesday's primary results and carries a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

"This state is really Hillary Clinton's wheelhouse. It's an older population, socially conservative, blue-collar workers," said Kennie Bass, a political reporter for WCHS in West Virginia.

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  1. Brent

    "If not Hillary...then McCain"

    I can't think of anything more ridiculous than these comments I read here and elsewhere. If it didn't have consequenses that directly impacted the rest of the world I would say you get what you deserve. But there is nothing rational about voting against your interests just because your angry your candidate didn't win the nomination.

    May 10, 2008 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm |
  2. Ranjii

    Just think...We can have Hilary as president, Mccain an VP and Rush Limbaugh will be their first appointee to the Supreme court.

    May 10, 2008 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm |
  3. dis

    It means that low income, hardworking white people who could not go to college DO NOT COUNT.

    Only low income hardworking black people who could not go to college should count.

    May 10, 2008 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm |
  4. JFH

    lol, Sounds like a plan to me!!! Hillary Clinton Candidate of the Moderate Party!!!

    Leave the Democratic Party to Dean, Kennedy, Kerry and the MOST LIBERAL Senator to loose in November!!!!

    I'm there!!!! Hillary '08

    May 10, 2008 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm |
  5. Tom

    Ok, two more comments after scanning others – Why is it that because West Virginia is comprised of mostly white people who will vote for Hillary, it automatically follows that they are racist? If that's true then aren't blacks in North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama and so on racist also? If that's true, who's the bigger racists and who did this first? Blacks began voting at an 80% -90% clip for Obama LONG before whites voted for Hillary at, what, 60% -40%? WHO's voting race?

    Second, I like the question of having a poll to see who would win the Presidential race if all 3 of these candidates were running..................THAT would be interesting – If it's Obama v.s. McCain, it's another lesser of two evils vote and that easily goes to McCain.

    May 10, 2008 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm |
  6. ralph benno

    The democratic race is not about Obama and more about Hilary. Obama was jus t the tool for the democratic party to topple the Clinton power in the party.

    This election is about internal Demcratic party politics. and get back at Bill ploy.

    The november election is about poor and rich, white and black, old and young. All gourp are only worry about what is for them.

    Obama can not do it.bring all of us together.. ..As a 30 yr democratic..I will vote for Mc Cain . My views are shared by the millions.

    May 10, 2008 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm |
  7. Wanda Cummings

    I am a disabled vietnam era veteran and I do not understand has the country lost it's mind. Why would anyone ever vote for someone who does not pledge allegiance to our flag that same flag that our troops carry into battle the same one that so many are ready to die for. I recently saw a photo with some of his family and three unknowns and another three unknowns just how much do they know. I am sorry our money clearly reads in god we trust what of this. Commander and chief not for me he's not. I've seen the ceremonies at the tomb of the unknown soldiers how much will change what will the new traditions be and when Obama talks of change I think he means a lot more than anyone realizes. God help us all and especially Hillary Clinton Please! Please! Never Quit! And what is this poverty tax bill and how much is this going to cost me.

    May 10, 2008 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm |
  8. Manuel TX


    It's funny (but so typical) to see all the Obamabots insulting WV residents with their smug superior comments.

    It's this attitude that will cost Obama millions of votes in the general election.

    Good job guys. 🙂

    May 10, 2008 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm |
  9. sick of hillary

    means nothing in the scheme of things…she can't win the nomination no matter how big she wins WV and Kentucky…she will also get a win in PR but lose Oregon, Montana and SD….so the delegate count will basically be a wash and by June 3rd, she will still be trailing by somewhere between 140 – 150 pledged delegates as well as trailing by the number of states won, popular vote and will, by then, be trailing in the super-delegate count…this is over, everyone knows it, even people within her own camp…valiant effort, but it's over Hillary…Hillary supporters need to move on and consider what's best for the party, and switching to McCain just because you don't like Hillary losing to Obama, is not whats best for the party….the divisions within need to come to an end…Hillary supporters, accept this end result…regardless of how big she wins WV or Kentucky, it doesn't matter anymore

    May 10, 2008 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm |
  10. R Deutsch

    I want more than anything to believe that Barack Obama could be a JFK-esque inspirational leader and then be an effective, 'change agent' to truly change the political culture. I want a President who is not only highly intelligent, tough and courageous, but who will surround themselves with dynamic, change agent 'thought leaders' who will get this country on an upward course. What we need is both Barack and Hillary, and I just pray that they will find a way to combine their talents to help the country through this dark age.

    My concern is that there are too powerful of forces in the environment of today's politics such as the industrial lobbying machine and the religious extremists whose selfish issues drive their politics despite the 'burning of Rome' on all of the other more important issues, that will block any real positive change on the big issues. We are likely expecting too much from Barack and his ability to be all that we want him to be. In my 60 years, I have never felt before as I do today that our way of life is in such jeopardy. Bush has driven the US down the path of economic, political, environmental and moral destruction as never before, and his departure from power is overdue and cannot happen soon enough. January seems so far away. We have wasted 8 years in solving the core, fundamental problems with our economy, the environment, society and the world, and we desparately need change.

    I remain optimistic (despite the pessimistic tone of my comments) that we will elect new leaders who will have the strength of conviction, the fortitude and the intelligence to lead us out of this wilderness.

    May 10, 2008 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm |
  11. Isobe

    I think Obama must rush down there, spend Saturday-Tuesday in order to bring the first Clinton volcano win down as quickly as possible. Where he has reached needs a sobering reflection and he needs not take anything for granted.

    Clinton never wavers-he has to fight.

    May 10, 2008 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
  12. Keith

    Remember W. VA. Only I look like Goldilocks the litle White Girl. I am the one who should get all the white votes. What? Iowa and Indiana? Large percentage of white voters supported Obama?! 'What Ever' ! Just Vote right and Vote White! Hillary

    May 10, 2008 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
  13. M.E.M Kansas city

    Look out a hillary meltdown is on it's way. Watch for her performance .

    May 10, 2008 01:01 pm at 1:01 pm |
  14. emma

    I agree with you W. Virginians...Go Hill! We know Obama is an elitest, he made those comments right here in San Francisco. No wonder he is just going to give up and let Hillary win in the next two states. SUPER DELEGATES have to see there is no way we will win in Nov. with Obama, and everyone knows it! HILLARY 08.

    May 10, 2008 01:01 pm at 1:01 pm |
  15. Obama rules

    It means "ANYone BUT Clinton" is okay to say- even if you get ugly, nasty and vulgar about it.

    But "ANYone BUT Obama" is NOT okay to say. It is apparently RACIST. Even if you simply exercise your right to vote and say it.

    May 10, 2008 01:01 pm at 1:01 pm |
  16. K

    Hillary should run as an Independent. Her own party has betrayed her with idiotic rules such as don't count FL and Michigan even though we want their vote in November. Allocate delegates instead of use a normal winner take all approach that causes no problems. Use undemocratic caucuses where the average working American with a life doesn't have time to sit and scream about politics all day. Howard Dean is a joke and the DNC is the reason we will lose in November. Hillary run as Independent and you will most likely win.

    May 10, 2008 01:01 pm at 1:01 pm |
  17. Jose

    Even if she wins WV by 100%; they only have 28 delegates and if the polls are correct, if she wins by 43%; i.e 63% for Clinton and 37% for Obama. She will have 17 delegates to Obama's 11 delegates; Obama will make up the difference in superdelegates; since the election in NC, he have gotten 9 SD; he will get more before the WV.

    Well, in General election, WV only contributes 4 electoral college votes; Obama can let McCain have them and he can easily make up for it else where.

    We all know that, not everyone will vote for Obama; Even if Jesus comes today, not everyone will accept him; so stop CNN should stop thinking that it will be a big deal if WV did not vote for Obama.

    In all these analysis, you guys forget that 90% AA that are not voting for Hillary or do you think if the nomination is stolen from Obama; the AA will kick it aside and vote for Hillary?

    The last time I checked, the most reliable base of the democrats is the AA and if they refuse to vote for Hillary come November because of a perceived injustice, I do not see how she will get the nomination even with her blue collar advantage.

    The truth is Obama & Clinton have divided the democrate base and each have a piece, with the other's cooperation and help, one of them is doom to fail come November. The other factor that is not being considered is Obama's attraction of new voters, it is very possible that new voters and huge voters turn-out might be the ones that will tilt the balance in this year's elections.

    May 10, 2008 01:01 pm at 1:01 pm |
  18. John Smith

    As a minority, I owe a lot to West Virginia (in particular, WVU). I had all my education and skills that I remain proud of today.

    But, I remain deeply disappointed in any state that would vote overwhelmy to send any Clinton back to the White House.

    In particular, the Clintons have–
    1. been impeached
    2. lied consistently to the people of this nation
    3. deep dark blood in their hands.

    I do not hate the Clintons' I just do not see how they could be "moral leaders" of a nation like this one. God Bless West Virginians; I still love the state that raised me!

    May 10, 2008 01:01 pm at 1:01 pm |
  19. Carol

    Why is it for the past several months we get fed this line of tripe, "This State is the Important One, it will define the fact that I'm more electable"

    All the states decide the President Hillary, even the ones that aren't 100% "white hard working Americans". You know the majority of the states, full of white, black, yellow, brown, and red And guess what we all get to vote, even those who aren't white are hard working and we ALL are important and decide who's President.

    May 10, 2008 01:01 pm at 1:01 pm |
  20. joe dirte

    if she wins by that margin she will only pick up a difference of 10 delegates, barely even a dent in obama's lead.

    please report on paul vs. clinton

    May 10, 2008 01:02 pm at 1:02 pm |
  21. i'll say it again

    It means the race card was overplayed by Obama and we are tired of his divisive sort of unity.

    It means "ANYone BUT Clinton" is okay to say- even if you get ugly, nasty and vulgar about it.

    But "ANYone BUT Obama" is NOT okay to say. It is apparently RACIST. Even if you simply exercise your right to vote and say it.

    May 10, 2008 01:02 pm at 1:02 pm |
  22. JC

    Did you see the Republicans are rushing to attack Obama even before Hillary concedes?

    I think they are worried about running against Obama.
    This tells me that Obama is a more viable nominee than Hillary is.

    May 10, 2008 01:02 pm at 1:02 pm |
  23. A Sobering Message?

    Right now Obama is ahead by 164 delegates. Even if West Virginia reduced the gap by 14, Obama would still be ahead by 150. How could that send "a sobering message" to Obama supporters?

    May 10, 2008 01:02 pm at 1:02 pm |
  24. king

    United we stand, divided we fall.

    May 10, 2008 01:02 pm at 1:02 pm |
  25. Marge Hibbing Mn

    It will show the Democrats in DC who are drooling over obama that this country doesn't want him. Not the rock bed base the ones who have supported this party for decades.

    Just because the youth are so zoned out by someone they think is a rock star and make more noise and chant and wave the DNC is drooling, yes drooling thinking they will STAY in the party. They won't. They'll be gone maybe even by November.

    There are emails circulating about starting a new branch of the Democrat Party and proposing Hillary as the candidate. We don't want that. We want our branch of the Democratic Party that is splitting to go to McCain and knock the socks off the weak kneed weak butt obama so the drooling members of congress will see the real truth. WE DONT' WANT OBAMA AND WE WON'T GET HIM.

    May 10, 2008 01:03 pm at 1:03 pm |
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