May 12th, 2008
03:14 PM ET
12 years ago

Clinton draws parallel between her campaign, JFK's 1960 run

Hillary Clinton compared her Campaign to JFK's Monday.'

Hillary Clinton compared her Campaign to JFK's Monday.'

(CNN) - Hillary Clinton said again Monday that no Democratic presidential candidate can win without a victory in West Virginia - and drew a parallel between her own campaign and John Kennedy’s 1960 White House run.

“It was West Virginia that made it possible for John Kennedy to become president,” Clinton said at a Clear Fork, West Virginia campaign stop. “Now, John Kennedy didn’t have the number of delegates he needed when he went to the convention in 1960. He had something equally as important - he had West Virginia behind him, because it’s a fact that Democrats don’t get elected president unless West Virginia votes for you…”

Barack Obama may be the party’s pledged and superdelegate leader – but that status does not appear to have helped him in West Virginia, where Clinton leads by 30-40 points in recent state polls.

“So I’m here today because I know what’s really going to matter tomorrow,” said Clinton. “It’s the votes of the people of West Virginia and if you will come out and honor me with your vote I will work my heart out for you.

Clinton criticized the Democratic front-runner on his health care proposal, and his rejection of her proposed “gas tax holiday.”

“My opponent Sen. Obama says, “Oh no, that’s just a gimmick, that’s not going to help people,” said Clinton before again arguing that it will save families $70 on average and more for those with longer commutes as well as truckers.

Clinton added that West Virginia proportionately has more veterans, “more people who have served in the conflicts and in the armed forces of the United States….

“It is the hard-working, dedicated people of West Virginia who have really made America what it has been, and what it will be again.”

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  1. Abdulazeez Musa

    Hillary needs a psychiatrist right now. She is still dancing when the drums have stopped beating and the musicians have left the stage. She deserves pity. She is on the expressway to self destruction.

    She thought she had Obama by the balls not knowing that she is the one hanging by the nipples. Please let us all pray for sanity to return so that Dems can face J.Mc head on

    May 12, 2008 05:09 pm at 5:09 pm |
  2. J. Benito Pastora

    Honor the will of the people, which seems to be “ nobody will have won at the end of the primary season”. Senator Clinton won the popular vote in Texas, I voted for Her; then I went to the caucus meeting. The number of Obama supporters who showed up to caucus was very large, so Sen. Obama won the caucus election, even though He clearly was the less popular candidate in the state. Where is the democracy of that result?
    The Texas result shows that Caucus elections are totally undemocratic. The candidate’s campaign that can haul more of its supporters to the caucus meeting will win the caucus election, even though that candidate might be the least popular in that state. That is how Sen. Obama has taken the lead of pledged delegates over Sen. Clinton, by winning caucus states. Obama’s claim that nationally He is the more popular candidate is bogus, as Sen. Clinton has won most primary elections AND MILLIONS OF CITIZENS DIDN’T GET TO VOTE IN CAUCUS STATES.
    Furthermore, the process to determine the candidate for president for the Democratic Party requires the winner to get 2025 delegates to obtain a majority and thus be the democratic presidential candidate next fall. Currently, neither Sen. Obama nor Sen. Clinton has obtained the required majority. It appears that neither of the two Senators will be able to obtain the required 2025 delegates from pledged delegates at the end of the primary election process to get the nomination, so they will be tied, neither Senator will be ahead nor behind, THEY WILL BE TIED, it will be a draw. That is, in spite of Sen. Obama’s campaign claims, no citizen who cast a vote in primary elections will be disenfranchised ( except maybe those from Michigan and Florida ) if his or her candidate isn’t picked in Denver, because NOBODY WON during the primary process. A runoff election will then take place at the democratic party’s national convention in Denver, where only delegates will vote. There, the superdelegates will end up picking the winner. This is the process, this is how it should be if neither candidate obtains the required 2025 delegate majority during the primary period.
    So, Superdelegates, pick the candidate most likely to win in November; pick the candidate best prepared to lead our country into the future; pick Sen. Hillary R. Clinton; otherwise we will lose NOT ONLY THE WHITE HOUSE BUT CONGRESS AS WELL.

    May 12, 2008 05:09 pm at 5:09 pm |
  3. mitchell from arkansaw

    good,sharon .we don't want republican hillarites,anyway.

    May 12, 2008 05:09 pm at 5:09 pm |
  4. cool it

    this hate will not unite the party... it's like the Obamaniacs want to win in November with only half the party. Half of us like and support Hillary... In November you will need all the votes... I for one will not support your candidate mostly because you BO supporters want to push HRC out without even him been able to close the deal. Pushing her this way is wrong..wrong...wrong. We will loose this one and Barrack will join in the club of LOOSERS along with Kerry and Gore I GUARANTEE IT.

    May 12, 2008 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  5. Chris, Silicon Valley, CA, USA

    Did you guys read some of the WV-bashing in the other stories?

    One post said KY & WV were insignificant small, red states.

    I wonder if Al Gore thought that way.

    Just think - if Gore had carried either of those in 2000, we would not have "W", and probably would not be in Iraq.

    The Democrats' own arrogance is their undoing.

    May 12, 2008 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  6. NoHillaryToTheWhiteHouse


    May 12, 2008 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  7. TF

    I am abhorred at people's ignorance. One woman said, " I for one will NEVER vote for Obama, he is arrogant and his supporters say the most incredibly vile things about Clinton..."

    Are you kidding me? While all of you AVERAGE folks are listening to the candidates talk about everything under the sun EXCEPT the issues, I am waiting to make my decision based on their stances on policy and relevant topics.

    It is a sad time in the history of America when people vote like 7th graders, basing their decision not on what is best for America, but for the puerile, pea-sized brains.

    God bless America!

    May 12, 2008 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  8. doug

    Clinton has been noting that no Democrat has won the Presidency since 1916 without winning WV.

    Add to her resume of saying anything to get elected, faulty logic. (and not WV's paltry electoral vote total, and the high likelihood that neither her nor Obama would carry it)

    Cum hoc ergo propter hoc (with this, therefore because of this). This is the familiar fallacy of mistaking correlation for causation - i.e., thinking that because two things occur simultaneously, one must be a cause of the other. A popular example of this fallacy is the argument that "President Clinton has great economic policies; just look at how well the economy is doing while he's in office!" The problem here is that two things may happen at the same time merely by coincidence (e.g., the President may have a negligible effect on the economy, and the real driving force is technological growth), or the causative link between one thing and another may be lagged in time (e.g., the current economy's health is determined by the actions of previous presidents), or the two things may be unconnected to each other but related to a common cause (e.g., downsizing upset a lot of voters, causing them to elect a new president just before the economy began to benefit from the downsizing).

    May 12, 2008 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  9. Dr. J

    Ok people, Hillary Clinton is not going to win the nomination. Can we please move on. This is wearing on the American people. She is not acting or looking stable and it is sad, very sad. I see how race has blinded some people. It really hurts some people to know a black/bi-racial man has out smarted and won the hearts of so many. Get over it. Obama transcends this mess. I hate racism. It brings out the worst in people. I have heard all of the excuses of not to vote for Barack and they are all weak. All of this stuff points to scared white people who are not exposed to culture. Their hate and insults are being manifested on this site. Being a first lady doesn't make you experienced. We need something fresh and new. No more race baiting and division. Come up people. Stop taking the low road.

    May 12, 2008 05:11 pm at 5:11 pm |
  10. biggyone12

    Obama is smart he knew he had no chance in Kentucky or WVA. Historically these people hate black folks and minorities. So that says a lot for the old school ideaology. They would never accept a negro has President. Bill Clinton was a brother but with white skin so he claims. Bill that is utter nonsense. You and Hil played the race card to the tee. That is why you guys have people defecting from your campaign everyday. You all are not unifying the party you are destroying it. Keep on ruining the party. McCain is going to win easily in the red states due to the Clintons race card movement!!!

    May 12, 2008 05:11 pm at 5:11 pm |
  11. Trenton Sims, Los Angeles

    OH HELL NO..!

    She doesn't posses even 1 Quality that JFK had.

    She has Clearly Lost Touch with REALITY..!

    The Nerve of that Heretic Serpent patholigical Liar...OMG..

    May 12, 2008 05:11 pm at 5:11 pm |
  12. Capt. Smash, Salt Lake City, Utah

    It is funny how Hillary wants to stay in the past. Things are so differnt now.
















    Obama is going to change the map mark my words. You see out west we do live in the past we always look forward. People back east seem to hold on to there BITTER past! The media has no clue about how people here out west feel about Obama. It's always about the eastern states for the media.

    May 12, 2008 05:11 pm at 5:11 pm |
  13. rusty

    Just wait, pretty soon she is going to say that Puerto Rico is the key.

    May 12, 2008 05:11 pm at 5:11 pm |
  14. Terry H

    When will the superdelegates get it? The people want Hillary. They KEEP ON wanting Hillary even when the DNC keeps trying to force her to quit. Obama will not win. The democrats who value our democracy will unite to keep Obama OUT of office. Watch ,learn DNC. You don't run this country, the people do and we will elect a president we can trust even if he is a republican. Hillary could have saved this country but the fix has been in for so long it would be hard for the DNC to "land the plane" and gracefully undo their damage to Hillary's campaign.

    May 12, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  15. Lewis

    It is so SHAMEFUL, how the MEDIA and other's have beat up on the Clinton's. Personally, I would not want to be president of a country as unloyal as this one. Mark my words, here's what's going to happen: Barack Obama is going to be the nominee in the fall due to great speaking, charm and skin color (I have never been so disgusted with blacks for this.) In the general election he is going to lose and the person or person's to blame will be the democrats themselves, mainly Howard Dean, (and he wonder's why he lost the nomination 4 years ago.) The Clinton's have done so much for this country and for American's to paint them as racist and forget how great the nation was when Bill, was president is so shameful. WHAT HAS OBAMA DONE FOR YOU LATELY? NOTHING! AND HE WILL DO NOTHING BUT RAISE YOUR TAXES AND STUMBLE ON FOREIGN POLICY. MARK MY WORDS.

    May 12, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  16. David

    you are no JFK. dream on.

    May 12, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  17. Joe Reg

    JFK was also the front-runner which you are not.

    Can you stop spouting garbage and pack up and go home.

    I think you forgot where you home is. It's in NY my lady. Go home.

    May 12, 2008 05:13 pm at 5:13 pm |
  18. Fools are blind

    Hillary is NOT damaging the Dems.

    Obama, his supporters, the corrupt DNC have all contibuted to that.

    Nominate the wrong candidate- that is what damages the Dems.
    But To appease the AAs and the new youth that is what we are doing.

    May 12, 2008 05:13 pm at 5:13 pm |
  19. Judyann Watson

    The Republicans bashed the Clintons for eight years and then some.
    Now the Obamamaniacs are at it too. She is ahead in W.Virginia by a ton. Why is that?

    May 12, 2008 05:13 pm at 5:13 pm |
  20. RB

    "WV votes for a winner!" HRC said that.

    May 12, 2008 05:14 pm at 5:14 pm |
  21. Robin

    We Americans are well-known for being very poor in math. I was hopping that the national leaders have a better understanding in math. I was dead wrong! She needs 67% of the remaining deligates (super or not-super) to win. Maybe she does not know what does 67% mean.

    May 12, 2008 05:14 pm at 5:14 pm |
  22. Canadian hoping for a better America

    Uncle Sam: "What had become so urgent that would have caused Sen. Obama to change his mind and would, moreover, propel him prematurely into a presidential campaign?"

    Are you aware of the state your country is in right now? That's what.

    May 12, 2008 05:15 pm at 5:15 pm |
  23. Generation X

    I hope that all the Obama Supporters agree that if Hillary wants to stay in the race she should be able to. I am an Obama Supporter and I am only voting this year because of him. Hillary has dedicated part of her life on this nomination, just like Obama has. She has invested a lot of her own money on this ticket, her supporters are almost as loyal as Obama Supporters if not the same. As you would expect from her if in his position.....a respectable and honorable exit that would be beneficial to the whole party. Basically...this is politics, good or bad, she gave an admirable fight and she deserves to make the ultimate decision to stay in or out of the race! We all can agree about one thing though.......that her husband is a cheater and that is not her fault.

    May 12, 2008 05:15 pm at 5:15 pm |
  24. End It Now

    If you can believe what hillary claims....

    I've got some ocean front property in Arizona!

    May 12, 2008 05:15 pm at 5:15 pm |
  25. MD

    In every state she thinks she is going to win, she says no one can win in the general election without that state. Why didn't she say that about NC, and 31 other states she lost? Because THEY don't matter!

    How do you spell DENIAL? I tell you: HILLARY CLINTON.

    May 12, 2008 05:15 pm at 5:15 pm |
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