May 13th, 2008
06:59 PM ET
12 years ago

Schneider: More sobering news - the value gap

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(CNN) - The West Virginia exit polls show more sobering news for Democrats about the deepening division within the party.

We asked the voters whether each candidate shared their values.

Among Barack Obama supporters, 62 percent said Hillary Clinton does not share their values while just 37 percent said she does.

The number is even more staggering among Clinton supporters: nearly 70 percent of her voters say Obama does not share their values while just 30 percent say he does.

We're getting over 60 percent of the supporters of each candidate saying the other candidate does not share our values – which could spell trouble for the Democrats as they try to unite the party for the general election.

soundoff (162 Responses)
  1. marie

    If Hillary cared about the party, she'd hold back on her ego and throw her support to Obama. She knows the math is impossible for her race at this point.

    May 13, 2008 07:15 pm at 7:15 pm |
  2. shannonL

    I love it...Obama supporters calling the people they need in November...RACISTS! Way to go morons...do McCain a favor and alienate those voters a little more.

    Your insanity turns people off.

    May 13, 2008 07:15 pm at 7:15 pm |
  3. Suzanne Richardson

    So much for Obama being a 'uniter'....

    May 13, 2008 07:15 pm at 7:15 pm |
  4. Chris

    I find it humorous how Obama supporters incessantly blame Hillary Clinton for problems that Obama is completely responsible for.

    His comment about how people "cling to guns and religion" will be aired over and over to these exact demographic by the Republicans. The stupidity of those comments astounds me to this day.

    Anyways, Obama has no one to blame but himself.

    May 13, 2008 07:16 pm at 7:16 pm |
  5. Independent-woman-voter-for-Obama

    The important question is NOT values......... that's so 1990's. Please! The question should be ARE YOU BETTER OFF TODAY? NO..... that's the crux of the matter.

    May 13, 2008 07:16 pm at 7:16 pm |
  6. michelle ashton

    I wonder if the democratic party realizes that most democrats were denied the right ot vote in their caucuses. This is a carefully crafted plan by them, I just wonder what they want the ultimate outcome to be. I know seven of my friends changed parties. I doubt this is going to work for them

    May 13, 2008 07:16 pm at 7:16 pm |
  7. kim in portland, oregon

    will someone PLEASE explain to me the "logic" in supposed-democrats voting for McWar over obama. it is the most ridiculous, non-sensical thing in this whole campaign.

    and for those dems who think hilary has YOUR shared values, hers are EXACTLY the same as obama's so please tell us all the difference between the two. you people better not mess up this country again with MORE war; high gas prices; a new invasion; a woman's choice being taken away; more profits for big business; more jobs overseas; the U.S. in debt to foreign countries-HOW are any of these things good for you and your family! THINK PEOPLE, you didnt for the last two "elections", so PLEASE think this time! hell, even half the BILLIONAIRES know mccain is a bad choice-cuz WE dont have any extra cash to spend at THEIR businesses. wise up, my friends, mcsame is NO friend of YOURS!!!

    May 13, 2008 07:16 pm at 7:16 pm |
  8. Cheyenne

    This is ridiculous. The only reason people are saying Obama doesn't reflect their values or vice versa is because they are racist or sexist. They have the same values!!!!! They are both socially very liberal and have generally the same policies. Keeping this in mind, why would you NOT vote for the other Democratic candidate instead of McCain. You are obviously not pro-Clinton or pro-Obama if you back one and then vote for McCain in the general because your democrat didn't win.

    IT'S ABOUT POLICY PEOPLE, NOT GENDER OR RACE!!!!! You're either a democrat or you're not. You don't vote for a 100 year war as an alternative to a democrat!!!!!

    May 13, 2008 07:16 pm at 7:16 pm |
  9. Chris, Silicon Valley, CA, USA

    For those of you who would denigrate WV, you would be wise to consider that Obama won a single "big" state: his home state of Illinois. After that, I think the largest state he won was Georgia. Also, he won many states by caucus, where old / working people would be inconvenienced to stay for hours.

    We are not caucusing in November.

    The Dems have shot themselves in the foot..... again.

    May 13, 2008 07:16 pm at 7:16 pm |
  10. jason

    Would Hillary voters really vote for Bush's 3rd term? Will they forget how McCain campaigned HARD for Bush in 2004?

    I think not.

    May 13, 2008 07:16 pm at 7:16 pm |
  11. E. loz Miami

    Obama gets over 90% of African American votes & some people have the nerve to call the blue collar workers racist-OBAMABOTS ARE ALL HYPOCRITS!

    May 13, 2008 07:16 pm at 7:16 pm |
  12. Dante

    Regardless of who walks away with the nomination, Democrats HAVE to pull their heads out of their rear ends and vote for the Democratic candidate so we won't have to put up with four more years of Repulican B.S.

    Come on people, get it together. Don't be stupid about this.

    May 13, 2008 07:16 pm at 7:16 pm |
  13. Sean, Detroit MI

    Abe Lincoln had this to say, probably about Clinton:
    "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."
    - Abraham Lincoln

    May 13, 2008 07:17 pm at 7:17 pm |
  14. yns

    Go back and take a look at all the debates. Hillary has had solutions from the beginning. Obama has ridden on the coat tails of all the potential candidates and is still full of hot air! Why do you think his platform looks similar to hers – because he could not come up with any of his own original ideas. He took all the ideas of all the other candidates that started out in this race.

    Something for all to ponder is this.... that no matter which "party" one is supposedly affiliated, we live in a democracy (at least last time I checked) and we have the ability to vote for whoever we feel is the best candidate that will represent our ideals. So, if a "democrat" wants to vote "republican" then so be it or vice-versa. There were no "parties" when our country was created! It is just a label for a group of people who got together to support each others ideas and a way to raise money. Within those "parties" there are many differences. The label should not matter, it should be the substance. Who has the best substance and who is going to take this country back to being the leader in the world.

    GO HILLARY GO! You have my vote in November!

    May 13, 2008 07:17 pm at 7:17 pm |
  15. Raghu

    Name me five things they completely differ on

    1. Gas Tax Moratorium
    2. Health car(kinda)
    3.Iraq(kinda)
    4.?????????
    5.??????????

    Unite this party, proud citizens of the U.S.
    Christine V, Christine V, where is the source for your animosity?
    His views? What else? Anger at him over your candidate.

    hope you will feel better toward us come november.

    May 13, 2008 07:17 pm at 7:17 pm |
  16. Susan L.

    You're using West Virginia as a bell weather? The only thing West Virginia is a bell weather for is Kentucky. And they're both as red as red can be and likely to stay that way.

    This is not 2004. This year it'll be about the West rather than the myopic blue collar white voters of Appalachia.

    May 13, 2008 07:17 pm at 7:17 pm |
  17. Melissa

    As an Obama supporter, I'm more worried that Clinton supporters are so silly as to cut off their noses to spite their faces. Obama received more votes, more states, more money and more delegates. Period. Not all Clinton supporters are old, uneducated, and set in their ways, but some of them surely can't add. Plus, your candidate cannot win without the black vote, and she has done her best to throw it away with both hands during her campaign.

    May 13, 2008 07:17 pm at 7:17 pm |
  18. wakeup

    In the eyes of dignity, WVirginians' white racists have disparaged themselves. VW lost quite a lot of respect among people who hate bigotry

    May 13, 2008 07:18 pm at 7:18 pm |
  19. Anonymous

    Ok, this is called racism, plain and simple. The question is, realistically can Obama win against the tide of this kind of racism? In other words, take all the republicans who aren't voting for him anyway and add all the democrats who are racists and won't based on that one issue.

    Hillary Clinton has basically courted the racist democratic vote. It doesn't make her racist, it was basically all she had left. A sober evaluation of the what has been seen in this primary leaves no doubt that Obama and Clinton need to run together, whether they like each other or not and whether their supporters like each other or not.

    It needs to be handled as a merger, not a straight hierarchy. Yes, their platforms are almost identical anyway, all the more reason for Obama to make a big show of embracing a few of Clinton's ideas that differ from his own the same way they both all of sudden were against NAFTA once Edwards was out of the race.

    Once they aren't running against each other I think they will work very well together anyway and it will bring the party back together. It's a very exciting idea to have both the first black president AND the first female vice president.

    May 13, 2008 07:18 pm at 7:18 pm |
  20. LaTreetha E. Sharpley

    If anyone says that they would vote for McCain rather than Senator Obama, they are not a true Democrat. They have every heavy racial issues and would not vote for anyone other than a white. Remember those of you they are saying this that his mother was white.

    May 13, 2008 07:18 pm at 7:18 pm |
  21. Bill

    At this late (highly polarized) state of the game, do you really think voters are hearing the "shares your values" question? It's really "who do you want." Among rabid Hillary supporters, the answer to every poll question is "Obama baaaad!"

    There really isn't any sobering news in WV. It's old news, and it's just what was expected. The blue hairs and the uneducated think that Hillary is the neatest thing since sliced bread. Well *duh*. Hillary has been so obnoxious as to make most Democrats who are not ardent Hillary supporters detest her. Well *duh*.

    She's doing to half of the Democratic party what she did to most of the Republican party: create so much distaste for her that they'd rather come out to vote *against* her than *for* the Republican

    May 13, 2008 07:18 pm at 7:18 pm |
  22. tiffany jackson

    There are about 49 other states that I would have "represent" than West Virgina. Is America 97% white-no. Are 63% of Americans uneducated(whatever that means) no? Strange how when we go to Oregon, Bill S will say oh wow Obama made headway among white voters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    May 13, 2008 07:18 pm at 7:18 pm |
  23. Caly

    Way to go Clintons you can start a new party, Dumb, inbred, backward hillbillies for Hillary.

    May 13, 2008 07:18 pm at 7:18 pm |
  24. Hillary or Bust!

    I want to know why CNN has all Obama supporters as commentators?

    Roland, Brazille, Jamal are all in Obama's camp.

    Where is Kiki, Lanny, Carville or Begala? Someone from Hillary's camp?

    May 13, 2008 07:18 pm at 7:18 pm |
  25. The Dude

    All these polls are ridiculous and have no bearing on the rest of the country whatsoever. West Virginia will probably end up voting Republican anyway, for a whopping two or three electoral votes. This is just fun news to fill the ticker with and keep us all discussing a primary race that is already over. The real winner of the Democratic primary is CNN, and that has become painfully obvious.

    May 13, 2008 07:18 pm at 7:18 pm |
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