May 14th, 2008
05:35 PM ET
13 years ago

Clinton campaign: We're ahead in the popular vote

[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/05/14/art.hill.ap.jpg caption="Is Clinton ahead in the popular vote?"](CNN) - Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe said Wednesday Hillary Clinton has overcome Barack Obama in the total popular vote.

“Senator Clinton took the lead in the popular vote last night because voters believe she is the candidate best able to beat John McCain and lead our country," McAuliffe said.

Is he right? That depends on which measure of the popular vote is used.

Four different scenarios of the total popular vote have been kicked around: (1) only counting primary contests without factoring in Florida and Michigan, whose contests were not sanctioned by the national party, (2) counting primary and caucus contests without Florida and Michigan, (3) counting primaries and contests and Florida but not Michigan, and (4) counting all primaries and caucuses including Florida and Michigan.

Clinton trails in all four counts, but by significantly different margins. In the first scenario she trails by by about 397,000, in the second she's behind 699,000, in the third she has a 405,000 vote deficit, and in the fourth scenario she trails by 77,000 votes.

The fourth scenario does not give Obama any votes out of Michigan, where he did not appear on the ballot.

The only scenario in which Clinton would appear to have the lead is a fifth scenario that only counts primary states – including both Florida and Michigan – and excludes any votes cast in the party’s caucuses. In that count, Clinton currently holds a lead of about 225,000 votes.

soundoff (259 Responses)
  1. Alien

    Awesome ! What a way to count. Is there anything else we need to know from this retarded campaign?

    May 14, 2008 06:43 pm at 6:43 pm |
  2. Julie

    Yeah, they have to change all the rules to make their statements truthful. Her campaign lies and they know it.

    May 14, 2008 06:43 pm at 6:43 pm |
  3. true demorcrat in monterey ca via memphis tn

    what is this woman doing?????? she is really churning my stomach she is doing the clinton name and their place in history a grave injustice

    May 14, 2008 06:43 pm at 6:43 pm |
  4. Deb, IN

    Obama is trying to win the WHITE vote with John Edwards......please......he couldn't even win enough votes to keep himself in the race........This makes me laugh.

    Sorry to tell you but WHITE people just don't believe Obama has the JUDGEMENT or EXPERIENCE to lead this country!!!!!!

    May 14, 2008 06:43 pm at 6:43 pm |
  5. Dee

    Holy Cow! How many different ways are they going to explore to undermine the system. Please stop the madness!

    This is one Republican that was looking to the Democrats to save this nation but now I am wondering if I should stick with my party. At least they have the UNITED WE STAND part down.

    I was inspired by Obama to cross party lines but with Hillary refusing to acknowledge that her campaign is over and show some support and unification I am at a loss and so is the Democratic Party.

    Hillary, please show some character and step aside. Support the next President of the United States – Barack Obama!!!!

    (By the way, I WILL NOT CROSS PARTY LINES FOR AN OBAMA/CLINTON TICKET)

    May 14, 2008 06:43 pm at 6:43 pm |
  6. Bob from Louisiana

    She also has prettier teeth and her hair cut only cost $25 at Super cuts. Go Hillary!! Personally I think we should change the rules and go with the "bowl off" idea Clinton had. Why not, the rules don't obviously matter at this point.

    May 14, 2008 06:43 pm at 6:43 pm |
  7. Gayle

    Edwards is a total idiot.

    May 14, 2008 06:43 pm at 6:43 pm |
  8. Terrence (Winston Salem,NC)

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA..... two plus two equal 7. LOL

    May 14, 2008 06:44 pm at 6:44 pm |
  9. Mike - Texas

    Quote of the Day........

    "My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world.
    I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."
    - Barack Obama

    May 14, 2008 06:44 pm at 6:44 pm |
  10. Brian in MT

    Sweet Jesus, I'm all for the inevitability of spin, but this is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

    May 14, 2008 06:44 pm at 6:44 pm |
  11. Count the votes in all 50 states! Not 48!

    Either way if Obama is the nominee, Democrats will lose in the fall.

    Obama has not won anywhere close to the amount of the white vote that John Kerry won in the 2004 election since Reverend Wrights comments came out in Febrauary 2008. And remember the primary voter is much more liberal than the general election voters. It is something the 20 somethings probably do not know.

    The democratic party can join a sinking ship if you want. You have 5 months before it goes under.

    May 14, 2008 06:44 pm at 6:44 pm |
  12. GB

    Hillary and Terry have their own New Math....

    May 14, 2008 06:44 pm at 6:44 pm |
  13. JC

    Hillary is running a trashy campaign.
    She is also saying that certain peoples votes do not count. Only the ones she likes. Again, trashy.

    May 14, 2008 06:44 pm at 6:44 pm |
  14. Paul

    LOL.... Oh come on!!

    This is an insult to the inteligence of Americans!!

    She thinks we're stupid!!

    May 14, 2008 06:44 pm at 6:44 pm |
  15. Lilarose In Oregon

    I am soooo angry with Edwards.

    Considering that many of us supported HIM before he QUIT, he could have remained neutral out of respect to us.

    I will NEVER NEVER NEVER vote for Obama.

    I am writing in Hillary in November and that is a promise.

    May 14, 2008 06:44 pm at 6:44 pm |
  16. SLO Bear

    Cheaters never prosper.

    May 14, 2008 06:44 pm at 6:44 pm |
  17. Chris in SC.

    Sounding more desperate and foolish each day! They must think the general public is completely ignorant.

    May 14, 2008 06:44 pm at 6:44 pm |
  18. Yusuf

    Idiotic. how can she make a case of counting FL and MI and excluding the caucuses. Complete stupidity

    May 14, 2008 06:45 pm at 6:45 pm |
  19. Sean

    There you go. Out and out lies. The delusional image of what's going on. It's getting very old.

    May 14, 2008 06:45 pm at 6:45 pm |
  20. Susanna

    Is it possible that McAuliffe meant "in the popular vote [in West Virginia]" but forgot to qualify it? Because otherwise, I think somebody is inhaling.

    May 14, 2008 06:45 pm at 6:45 pm |
  21. Dan

    That's QUITE a qualification for what constitutes as a vote.

    May 14, 2008 06:45 pm at 6:45 pm |
  22. HILLARY CAN WIN IN NOVEMBER!!

    YES YOU ARE !

    NOTHING CHANGES THE FACT THAT WEST VIRGINIA, A SWING STATE OVERWHELMINGLY VOTED FOR HILLARY!!!!!!!

    ALL THE ENDORSEMENTS DON'T MEAN ANYTHING WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS: WHO CAN GET THE VOTES IN NOVEMBER!!!!!!!

    THE GOP WILL BRING OUT ALL OBAMA'S SCANDAL, AND LETS FACE IT, THEY WONT HAVE TO MAKE THINGS UP!!!!!!!!!

    HE WILL NEVER SURVIVE THIS AND WILL LOSE!!!!

    THEY CANNOT DO THIS TO HILLARY!
    THERE IS NOTHING THEY HAVEN'T TRIED ALREADY!!!!

    HILLARY SHOULD BE THE NOMINEE!!!!!!! GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!

    May 14, 2008 06:45 pm at 6:45 pm |
  23. Kyle

    CNN SUCKS!
    Go McCain!
    Anybody but Obama
    Nobama 08
    Change we cant believe in!

    May 14, 2008 06:45 pm at 6:45 pm |
  24. Louis

    ...and she leads the popular vote in states that have more than eight letters and end in "a". This primary needs to end soon. Clinton supporters–please remember that Hillory, the candidate you respect and support, stated today on CNN that it would be a grave mistake to vote for McCain.

    May 14, 2008 06:45 pm at 6:45 pm |
  25. senj

    Very preposterous. Terry just proved to everybody that he is the achitect of Clinton's misfortune, and in order to continue putting HRC into more debt, while he's own bank account is growing, he needs to come up with absurd claims. This is one of the biggest jokes ever. Nice job Terry, you can go home now.

    May 14, 2008 06:45 pm at 6:45 pm |
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