May 14th, 2008
05:35 PM ET
13 years ago

Clinton campaign: We're ahead in the popular vote

[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/05/14/art.hill.ap.jpg caption="Is Clinton ahead in the popular vote?"](CNN) - Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe said Wednesday Hillary Clinton has overcome Barack Obama in the total popular vote.

“Senator Clinton took the lead in the popular vote last night because voters believe she is the candidate best able to beat John McCain and lead our country," McAuliffe said.

Is he right? That depends on which measure of the popular vote is used.

Four different scenarios of the total popular vote have been kicked around: (1) only counting primary contests without factoring in Florida and Michigan, whose contests were not sanctioned by the national party, (2) counting primary and caucus contests without Florida and Michigan, (3) counting primaries and contests and Florida but not Michigan, and (4) counting all primaries and caucuses including Florida and Michigan.

Clinton trails in all four counts, but by significantly different margins. In the first scenario she trails by by about 397,000, in the second she's behind 699,000, in the third she has a 405,000 vote deficit, and in the fourth scenario she trails by 77,000 votes.

The fourth scenario does not give Obama any votes out of Michigan, where he did not appear on the ballot.

The only scenario in which Clinton would appear to have the lead is a fifth scenario that only counts primary states – including both Florida and Michigan – and excludes any votes cast in the party’s caucuses. In that count, Clinton currently holds a lead of about 225,000 votes.

soundoff (259 Responses)
  1. s.positive

    This is why she is losing. Enough said...

    May 14, 2008 07:00 pm at 7:00 pm |
  2. NM

    Um, yes, he should be the nominee "just because of the math" because this is the United States of America, a federal republic, and that's how it works here. Are you kidding me?

    May 14, 2008 07:00 pm at 7:00 pm |
  3. Obama

    Hill,
    No you aren't! LOL You are an idiot.

    May 14, 2008 07:00 pm at 7:00 pm |
  4. La Raza

    With folks like Terry Mcauliffe and Lanni Williams, its no wonder the Hillary campaign just plain sucks. They live in "bizarro world", where nothing is what is seems, and seems what it is.

    May 14, 2008 07:00 pm at 7:00 pm |
  5. Jodi

    Just because pretty boy Edwards wants obama, that don't mean crap, Mrs Edwards wants Hillary. You notice Mrs Edwards wasn't at the obama rally today, Why?

    May 14, 2008 07:00 pm at 7:00 pm |
  6. Kiah

    Do you even hear yourself? Should he wn b/c he's in the lead...you sir are truly pathetic! With people like yourself the Democratic party is better off w/o you, if cheating is the way to win.

    May 14, 2008 07:00 pm at 7:00 pm |
  7. Ross in Indiana

    This is just silly. If they want to "count everybody" then they can't make their own defenition of everybody. McAuliffe would probably find a way to say that pawns can move anywhere on a chess board. They don't seem to understand that when you sign up for a set of rules those are what you have. i wonder how he would argue at a blackjack table. Maybe bust is at 19 or 23?

    May 14, 2008 07:00 pm at 7:00 pm |
  8. MI

    Clinton, the best person to fight McCain! I would'nt be suprised if she took the lead. She has the true potential to bring a change.

    May 14, 2008 07:00 pm at 7:00 pm |
  9. No Clinton in 2008

    Ridiculous, this woman and her campaign are absolutely nuts. Why don't they just crown her in August and spare America a November vote!!!

    May 14, 2008 07:00 pm at 7:00 pm |
  10. scott C

    If you count Michigan and Florida without counting the caucus states then Clinton is ahead by 29,000 votes, certainly not over 200,000.

    If you don't count the caucus states then it is just as bad as ignoring MI and FL, it is essentially robbing four states of their say, and THEY voted fairly.

    If you count Michigan and Florida AND the caucus states then Obama is leading by 80,000+

    Even so, you can't give him ZERO popular vote in Michigan, so the number is actually much higher.

    if Clinton can't do simple math, then how can she run our country?

    May 14, 2008 07:00 pm at 7:00 pm |
  11. O'Bama 08

    Terry McAuliffe must be in charge of her campaign budget also. That is why it is in the whole $20 million!!! How in the world does he figure that she has the won the popular vote?!

    May 14, 2008 07:00 pm at 7:00 pm |
  12. Chris

    So much about 'We want all voters to be heared'
    All voters do not include those in Iowa, Nevada, Washington & Maine!
    We are actually seeing who wants to disenfrachise millions of Americans.

    Pathetic!

    May 14, 2008 07:00 pm at 7:00 pm |
  13. Doug

    Please stop the "SPIN." If it was only Hilary running for the White House. Why do you think Bill has been so upset the last few months? He is watching is third and fourth terms go down the drain.

    May 14, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  14. erma- va

    You Folks just don't get it. As a minority and a woman I understand where Hillary is coming from. After all is said and done Hillary will still fight for the rights of children and women in this country as she did in Arkansas. To bad it will be our loss.

    May 14, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  15. BB Florida

    This election is a Joke.Hillary you need to run as a independent so that real democrats will have are votes counted.Please do it just to show all these people who have turned their backs on you.Let's turn this election upside down.We will never vote for Obama!

    May 14, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  16. HSU

    ***The fourth scenario does not give Obama any votes out of Michigan***

    This is why she is losing. This is why people say she is not trustworthy.

    May 14, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  17. AL

    My God, My God

    Why has she forsaken us!!!

    This woman is unbelievable.

    She has the nerve to come up with these projections? How can she look herself in the mirror each day?

    So, let me understand this...if she was the nominee and John McCain beat her in the GE, how will she change the count of the electoral votes? Hillary has turned out to be a real disgrace to the Democracy of this country.

    And not only should Barack not ask her to be the VP, but under no circumstances should he pay any of her self inflicted debt.

    When people say she deserves to stay in because she fights for us, I will never understand how people can see that and say that after all the lies she has told and been exposed for during this campaign.

    God help us all and please help Hillary Clinton come to a place of reality.

    May 14, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  18. Kenneth M

    Gr8! Then you wont be needing my vote in Kentucy.

    May 14, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  19. Chris from NY

    I thought these were smart educated people. Where did they get such mathmatical calculations? For Christ sake can the super delgates intervene before this power hungry people hijack this election. Now I mad as hell. I can't continue to listen to these kinds of things. It can make som one go crazy.

    May 14, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  20. Realist

    That's what Al Gore said and where is he now?

    May 14, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  21. hamstring

    Their is officially no candidate in this race with the courage to put an end to Americas continued Human Rights violations againts Homosexuals. It is time for the bloody revolution to begin.

    Let's (the heads) Roll!!!!

    May 14, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  22. Dee Okla.

    Nick in Las Vegas, If the nominee is "supposed to SELECTED" why do we the people need to vote?

    May 14, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  23. Steve

    I can support either Barrack or Hillary. However, it is clear to me that Barrack Obama will be the nominee of the Democratic Party and hopefully the next President. It's time to unite folks and not allow a third Bush term with the election of John McCain. This type of playing with numbers is no longer acceptable and quite frankly shouldn't even be reported;

    May 14, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  24. Niky

    this is totally ridiculous

    May 14, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  25. ovitshio Branco from New Mexico

    Ask John Edwards he knows better

    May 14, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
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