May 19th, 2008
04:45 PM ET
15 years ago

Clinton cites Karl Rove as reason to stay in

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="Hillary Clinton campaigns in Kentucky Monday ahead of the states primary."]
PRESTONSBURG, Kentucky (CNN) – Hillary Clinton defended her reasoning for staying in the presidential race Monday afternoon by pointing out that Karl Rove's analysis shows her to be the strongest candidate against John McCain in November.

“There has been a lot of analysis about which of us is stronger to win against Sen. McCain, and I believe I am the stronger candidate,” said Clinton, repeating a line from her stump speech.

Then she veered from her usual argument.

“Just today I found some curious support for that position when one of the TV networks released an analysis done by – of all people – Karl Rove, saying that I was the stronger candidate,” said Clinton. “Somebody go a hold of his analysis and there it is.”

Clinton was referring to electoral maps drawn up by Karl Rove’s consulting firm that were obtained by ABC and forecast her currently leading McCain in the electoral college by 53 votes (259-206), while Obama trails McCain by 17 (238-221)

270 electoral votes are needed to win November’s election.

Clinton continued to push for Florida and Michigan’s delegates to be seated but said that even if that happens, the race won’t be over.

“Once we include Florida and Michigan, neither Sen. Obama nor I will have enough delegates to get the nomination so there is no way that this is going to end any time soon because we’re going to keep fighting for the nomination.”

Filed under: Hillary Clinton
soundoff (282 Responses)
  1. jeremy

    First, Hillary says that if the democratic primaries followed the Republican rules she would the the Nominee.

    Now, she cites one of the most republican, republican to argue her case.

    I am an Hillary supporter. I am so dissapointed with you now!!

    May 19, 2008 05:15 pm at 5:15 pm |
  2. fairandstraight

    In Ohio she blamed Sen. Obama for using tactic right out of Karl Roves handbook when he mentioned NAFTA. Well is this the same Roves man?

    Everyone is an honest person as long as they imply or state that she is the stronger candidate. Take any line you wish out of his handbook as long as it benefits her.

    May 19, 2008 05:15 pm at 5:15 pm |
  3. adian t. rosa

    Unbelievable but true!!! Karl Rove has become a Clinton's supporter. And I have noticed that he has been given advice for our party (Dems). And now Hillary (she would be willing to grasp a TEN MILLION VOLT WIRE to become the nominee) is legitimazing one of the guys that have done the most damage to our country, domestically and abroad!!! "Cosas veredes, Sancho", said Don Quixote.

    May 19, 2008 05:16 pm at 5:16 pm |

    A Republican trick she should know better

    May 19, 2008 05:16 pm at 5:16 pm |
  5. working girl

    How sad it is that Hillary has to look for support from none other than Karl Rove! This proves what I was thinking all along... Hillary is a bona fide republican... explains her "throw the kitchen sink" tactics.

    May 19, 2008 05:16 pm at 5:16 pm |
  6. Joe Ossai


    May 19, 2008 05:16 pm at 5:16 pm |
  7. stop the madness

    Be reminded that ROVE is Republican so is Hillary now suggesting that their advise be taken in consideration in the Dems nomination? This has been a problem for her, she thinks too much like a republican for the likings of most Democrats.

    May 19, 2008 05:16 pm at 5:16 pm |
  8. Fraizer

    I can see it now: the day after Obama is sworn in, Hillary will run screaming from her tour bus, "...but I won!!! How can this be????

    May 19, 2008 05:16 pm at 5:16 pm |
  9. Jason Means

    Lame. So very, very lame. She's been handed her hat and coat, but still refuses to leave.

    Clintonian logic and mathematics defy all known paths of reason.

    What will it take to get rid of this loon?

    May 19, 2008 05:16 pm at 5:16 pm |
  10. Ron R

    Hillary......You are going off the deep end!!! Now you find it acceptable to produce something positive coming out of the mouth of some1 you have basically called a criminal in the past!!!!!!!!! Please save whatever face you have and go into hiding for a bit. Your too good a woman to go out like this!!!

    May 19, 2008 05:16 pm at 5:16 pm |
  11. Motov8n

    Well ain't that a BLIPP!!!!!!! Told you so. She's part of the "GRAND OLD PARTY" They plan to be around for another 20yrs. " Not This Time" . HITLLERY. She needs to be stopped NOW!!!!!!!!

    May 19, 2008 05:16 pm at 5:16 pm |
  12. tomkat

    If Hillary were a man, the DNC backroom boys
    would've taken out in the alley a loooong time ago
    to knock some sense into him/her.
    SO she is getting kid glove treatment for being a female/shemale

    May 19, 2008 05:16 pm at 5:16 pm |
  13. Strong Logic

    I think that if Mrs. Clinton is going to stretch to Karl Rove's (nefarious) opinion , the Atwater of my generation, for her argumentative basis then the United States has already been saved be Obama once. Hillary was my candidate, but hat stopped in June, when she should have bowed out gracefully. She could have been the next Ted Kennedy, now she is the next Ross Perot!! so to speak.

    Obama in 08 for 8 years!!!

    May 19, 2008 05:16 pm at 5:16 pm |
  14. Daniel Santos

    Oh, Karl Rove says so.... Ok maybe I'll change my vote.... NOT!!

    Hilary its time to let go!

    Dems United!

    Barack the Vote!

    May 19, 2008 05:16 pm at 5:16 pm |
  15. Cindy

    Wow, if you people could actually comprehend what you read you might be going places!

    She said that Karl Rove called her the stronger candidate and it's true. The Republicans know they can beat Obama in the general election with one hand tied behind their backs. Hillary will be a much tougher opponent against McCain.

    And Zoey, royal crown is a soft drink. Crown Royal is liquor. FYI, sweetie.

    May 19, 2008 05:17 pm at 5:17 pm |
  16. White & Old Midwest Female

    Whatever.............I guess she'll use whoever/whatever, even Karl Rove. She used the kitchen sink tactic before; she must be cleaning out the garbage disposal now. Look what got caught down in there....a shrew screaming nonsense!

    May 19, 2008 05:17 pm at 5:17 pm |
  17. Carol, WI

    Oh, I am completely sure Karl Rove is not up to any tricks saying Hillary would be a tougher opponent for the Republicans. I am sure he is not trying to divide the Democrats further by causing the nomination process to go to the convention. Do either George W. or Dick Cheney want to weigh in on this speculation? I am sure they, too, would give some genuine advice to the Dems.

    First Hillary wants to change the Democratic nomination process over to what the Republicans use, now she wants to take the advice of the Republicans? I guess she is really banking on the support of the Reagan Democrats to carry her through.

    Did anyone happen to mention to her that the Reagan Democrats are getting older and the young are going to be the ones to carry the Democratic Party into the future? Some foresight is needed in politics, unfortunately, Hillary's campaign has been stuck in the 90's and has been unable to adapt to the next generation.

    May 19, 2008 05:17 pm at 5:17 pm |
  18. Hoss

    Maybe Karl Rove has his own "Operation Chaos", but is a lot smoother than Limbaugh.

    May 19, 2008 05:17 pm at 5:17 pm |
  19. @americans

    For Hillarious to look up to Karl Rove for analysis this late in the game, just show how she misjudge her chances of winning the democratic nomination!

    This woman is broke ($$$millions in debt) and she is now looking up to the REPUBLICANS to do her political math for her!

    Sorry lady, you've lost it!

    Waiting for your next spin. NEXT!!!!!

    May 19, 2008 05:17 pm at 5:17 pm |
  20. Bama A.T.

    Did she ever stop to think that he might be saying that to get the more beatable candidate nominated. Sounds like another one of his tricks and once again like the war....she's falling for it.

    May 19, 2008 05:17 pm at 5:17 pm |
  21. Kenneth M

    I wish I knew how to explain to so many women who are not voting for Obama because Hillary lost. There seems to be an expectation that Hillary would win and thus anyother outcome is unfair. She ran for office. That means there is a contest in which she could win or loose. She voted for the war, she lied about Sniper fire, she started with the politics of fear. Those are the reasons the majority of people did not vote for her. Does it not smack of punitive to vote against Obama because he won? I understand that NARAL is a Pro-Choice Org., but that does not make it a Robot without opinion. Women always have this "Do what I expect or I will destroy you" attitude going on. Destroy Obama because he dare run against Hillary, and Destroy NARAL because they dare endorse Obama. Is it only women who are suppose to have a choice in this world?

    May 19, 2008 05:17 pm at 5:17 pm |
  22. AJ, IL

    WOW! This has got to be one of the saddest campaign moments this year. Not the Hillary tears before New Hampshire. Not the Hillary battle cry, "Shame On You!" before Ohio. Hillary is now citing Karl Rove as a reason for her to stay the race. Once Hillary cites GW Bush as a source for her to stay in the race, her Gallup polling number will put her 35 pts behind Obama. within 110 delegates of clinching the nomination. Superdelegates are flocking to Obama a rate of 28 per week since May 6th. If Obama does better in Kentucky than expected and wins Oregon wider than expected, the superdelegates will move to Obama so that with June 3rd voting complete, Obama will be the presumptive Democratic nominee.

    Obama in 08!

    May 19, 2008 05:17 pm at 5:17 pm |
  23. Lean on a leader

    Come on lady, you can do better than this...If ever you have to lean, lean on a leader...

    May 19, 2008 05:17 pm at 5:17 pm |
  24. Ed

    Say what you will about Karl Rove, but at least you can't say he wasn't successful! He knows how the game is played, and he knows that if the DNC primary was held like the GOP's, i.e., winner takes all, Clinton would have already cinched up the nomination.

    May 19, 2008 05:17 pm at 5:17 pm |
  25. Cheyenne

    Since when do Democratic voters care what Karl Rove has to say, and follow it?

    May 19, 2008 05:17 pm at 5:17 pm |
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