May 19th, 2008
04:45 PM ET
15 years ago

Clinton cites Karl Rove as reason to stay in

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="Hillary Clinton campaigns in Kentucky Monday ahead of the states primary."]
PRESTONSBURG, Kentucky (CNN) – Hillary Clinton defended her reasoning for staying in the presidential race Monday afternoon by pointing out that Karl Rove's analysis shows her to be the strongest candidate against John McCain in November.

“There has been a lot of analysis about which of us is stronger to win against Sen. McCain, and I believe I am the stronger candidate,” said Clinton, repeating a line from her stump speech.

Then she veered from her usual argument.

“Just today I found some curious support for that position when one of the TV networks released an analysis done by – of all people – Karl Rove, saying that I was the stronger candidate,” said Clinton. “Somebody go a hold of his analysis and there it is.”

Clinton was referring to electoral maps drawn up by Karl Rove’s consulting firm that were obtained by ABC and forecast her currently leading McCain in the electoral college by 53 votes (259-206), while Obama trails McCain by 17 (238-221)

270 electoral votes are needed to win November’s election.

Clinton continued to push for Florida and Michigan’s delegates to be seated but said that even if that happens, the race won’t be over.

“Once we include Florida and Michigan, neither Sen. Obama nor I will have enough delegates to get the nomination so there is no way that this is going to end any time soon because we’re going to keep fighting for the nomination.”

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soundoff (282 Responses)
  1. David Goldman for OBAMA




    May 19, 2008 05:23 pm at 5:23 pm |
  2. Rob in ohio

    Why do Obama supporters ignore the whole way the math will work out in the fall with the Electoral college?

    Does any of them believe Obama will made any of the blood-red always republican states somehow magically democratic in the fall? That's what's bolstered his campaign by and large due to African Americans voting for him overwhelmingly. But if someone thinks he'll somehow get the bible belt states they're kidding himself. And frankly not many are convinced he'll get Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Michigan etc. That's how you lose an general election.

    Why is this so hard for Obama supporters to understand?

    May 19, 2008 05:23 pm at 5:23 pm |
  3. Drew, Central FL

    She's taking advice from Bush's brain?!?!?!

    That's new low.

    May 19, 2008 05:23 pm at 5:23 pm |
  4. not fooled

    You know what...??? Karl is right with his comments because he knows the dems will do the opposite of what he go right ahead and put Obama in front of Mc Cain so he can tear him apart. Obama is not ready maybe another time but now....So you know what...??? It's going to be another fours years of a Republican running our country. Come on Dems!!!! Be smart....!!!!!

    May 19, 2008 05:23 pm at 5:23 pm |
  5. nitro

    She has really been smoking on the crack pipe now that shes listening to anything that Karl (the untruth) Rove has to say.

    May 19, 2008 05:23 pm at 5:23 pm |
  6. Barb from Idaho

    Now that it's clear that Obama will be the nominee, I'm even more worried about Huckabee's remark about someone pointing a gun at Obama. I'm afraid that once the realization sinks in that he might really become President, it becomes a bigger problem.

    May 19, 2008 05:23 pm at 5:23 pm |
  7. Pam

    Oh good grief...she really is desperate, isn't she? Citing what Karl Rove says, lmao!

    May 19, 2008 05:23 pm at 5:23 pm |
  8. Texas Independent

    This makes me sad and worried about the Democratic party.
    The comment that MCCain and her is ready to be president
    The denouncing Fl and Mi and now a complete reversal
    The Ferraro problen
    The Mark Penn problem
    The Sniper problem
    The pregnant woman story
    The about of her money and debt to local businesses
    Her overall debt
    Constantly moving the goal post:
    Small states does not count to small states matters
    From 2025 to 2210 for delegate
    Pledge delegates can change their minds
    The popular vote is what matters
    Now counting on Karl Rove as reason to continue

    This is incredible

    May 19, 2008 05:23 pm at 5:23 pm |
  9. Tyler in Raleigh, NC

    Wow.... Clinton is now using KARL ROVE as a reason to stay in?

    She really is willing to use any excuse and try anything to win this one.... what comes next... having her buddy Bush (he owes her for IRAQ and NAFTA support, you know... before she was against them) to declare Obama a terrorist and crown her Democrat.

    That way we can have 2 candidates vying to carry on the Bush mantra of lies, deceit and Karl Rove tactics.

    May 19, 2008 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
  10. Gary

    Don't you think that Karl Rove may have an alterior motive with his analysis? The Republicans drool over a Clinton nomination because there are just too many people that hate the Clinton's. The Republicans want a Clinton nomination!

    May 19, 2008 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
  11. David, Newport OR

    And why does Karl Rove want Hillary? Come on Hillary supporters...time to explain this one to me. I'm waiting patiently. Looking through the 52 comments so far, I think this is the first time I havent read one from a Hillary supporter.

    May 19, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  12. Kabir

    I had high regards for her. Now she is out of her mind.

    May 19, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  13. Tiffany

    is she so stupid that she doesn't realize that republicans like rove WANT her to be in and continue to divide the party??? i'm mean, honestly. is she REALLY that stupid?? if she is, then she should be forced out of the race immediately.

    May 19, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  14. Beverly, NYC

    ROVE SAID I'M BETTER!!!! Is she kidding, thanks for the laugh today Hillary I needed it. What's next dinner and a movie with Rush Limbaugh?

    Please give the re-count of FL & MI a rest. Remember in February when you thought this nomination was a lock, you agreed to the punishment even signed a document. You are making yourself look pathetic.

    May 19, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  15. CP - Texas

    Shane – Actually she has NO electorial votes, they have not voted. This is pure speculation. When they do vote she will have 0, since she will not be the nominee and he will have the 370 for the Presidency!

    May 19, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  16. Randy - Denver

    Umm "The Truth" you are really losing your grip on reality aren't you? Ms. clinton is NOT behind by the 11 or so percentage you claim "Won't it be something if Hillary wins Kentucky when the polls say she is behind by eleven or so points" she is leading in Ky sorry to break reality to you.

    That said I really do not have a problem with Ms. clinton staying in for the next two weeks. It will be better for her to stay in, the rednecks in KY (NOT all the residents of KY but a large majority) will never vote for a black man, pure and simple, so she will WIN in KY. It is a forgone conclusion and Mr. obama could campaign there until he was as old as Ms. Clinton and it will make little difference in the outcome. So by her staying in the race he will lose to an opponent NOT to someone who is not in the race. It is better to lose to an opponent than to a "usta-run" she is doing him the final favor in this race! I suspect that after tomorrows votes he will be slightly shy of the 2026 needed to win and will not receive enough superdelegates to put him over the limit until two things happen. One the final outcome of the (cheating) MI and FL votes are determined and two the last primaries begin this way he will WIN cleanly and she will say so Wednesday June 4th leaving her supporters with a positive ending and closure and allowing her to support Mr. Obama before the convention. I believe the Dems will be here in Denver supporting Mr. Obama, and I think Ms. clinton will give one he&& of a keynote address!

    May 19, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  17. Concerned

    Karl Rove has a motive for saying that.

    Don't be fooled Hillary and get yourself in a trap.

    May 19, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  18. Sean

    Yeah do you really think Karl Rove is the most reliable source for information. Here is how you use Karl Roves opinion on the democrats: Take whatever he says, and do the opposite. So in turn Clinton is the weaker canidate, no doubt. Obama's strength with independents is a nightmare for Republicans the only hope they have is that Clintons bitter supporters dont see the mislogic of voting for McCain which I doubt their bitterness will continue. Its understandable to be upset but just take some time to cool off and help the democrats and the womens movement become stronger in November.

    May 19, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  19. Capt. Smash, Salt Lake City, Utah

    Karl should be in jail now!

    May 19, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  20. Son

    Well, of course she would cite Karl Rove. After all, this is a person who wants Michigan and Florida to count in the Democratic primary, and some of her supporters suggesting that Obama really only sees 48 states in the Union.

    Cough! Cough! According to the way Hillary counts the contest, we only have 38 states in the Union. They don't include any caucus voting. There are 12 states that hold only caucuses. That means states such as Iowa, Colorado, and Alaska, states which are actually in play – IF OBAMA IS THE NOMINEE – doesn't exist in her mind.

    And that's why I won't vote for her. If I were hiring someone, with the way she's painting the picture, I'd fire her before I'd hire her!

    May 19, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  21. Annette

    This argument is a case study in desperation. She is definitely in denial.

    May 19, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  22. kani

    she needs to see her doctor to give her bi-polar!!

    obama 08/12

    May 19, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  23. MV, Texas

    Ilene actually stated that CNN hates Obama? Jeez, that's about as laughable as CNN's journalistic integrity at this point.

    May 19, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  24. Ding, Washington, DC

    Hilaryland lost bearings when L. Davis, Kiki Mclean, and the likes began listening to Hannities, Gingrichers, and Roves. Simply pathetic!. On the eve of North Carolina and Indiana primaries, Karl Rove predicted that Senator Clinton would carry Indiana by more than 10 points, and Senator Obama would win North Carolina by 4 points. I am lost of words Senator Clinton believes in mr. Rove. That's 40 years backward.
    Why can Karl Rove finish colleg?

    May 19, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  25. George

    Karl Rove spent the last 4 years preparing the GOP campaign against Hillary, he wouldn't dare let that work come to nought. Hillary seems too desperate to even realize the GOP prefer her to Obama because they think they know how to beat her.

    May 19, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
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