May 19th, 2008
04:45 PM ET
15 years ago

Clinton cites Karl Rove as reason to stay in

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="Hillary Clinton campaigns in Kentucky Monday ahead of the states primary."]
PRESTONSBURG, Kentucky (CNN) – Hillary Clinton defended her reasoning for staying in the presidential race Monday afternoon by pointing out that Karl Rove's analysis shows her to be the strongest candidate against John McCain in November.

“There has been a lot of analysis about which of us is stronger to win against Sen. McCain, and I believe I am the stronger candidate,” said Clinton, repeating a line from her stump speech.

Then she veered from her usual argument.

“Just today I found some curious support for that position when one of the TV networks released an analysis done by – of all people – Karl Rove, saying that I was the stronger candidate,” said Clinton. “Somebody go a hold of his analysis and there it is.”

Clinton was referring to electoral maps drawn up by Karl Rove’s consulting firm that were obtained by ABC and forecast her currently leading McCain in the electoral college by 53 votes (259-206), while Obama trails McCain by 17 (238-221)

270 electoral votes are needed to win November’s election.

Clinton continued to push for Florida and Michigan’s delegates to be seated but said that even if that happens, the race won’t be over.

“Once we include Florida and Michigan, neither Sen. Obama nor I will have enough delegates to get the nomination so there is no way that this is going to end any time soon because we’re going to keep fighting for the nomination.”

Filed under: Hillary Clinton
soundoff (282 Responses)
  1. Mikey

    Hey, superdelegates – could enought of you move over to Obama to give him 2210 without Florida and Michigan? I don't know how much more of this stupidity we can take!

    May 19, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  2. Monica

    Has no one concidered the fact that Obama is winning these primaries because the typical red states might go blue. The standard swing states will not be the same for this GE. Obama is not a traditional candidate and he will not win using the the traditional red state/ blue state map. Looking at the democratic primary map shows me the voters are trying to pick someone who is not from NY or AZ (or CA, TX etc)I am curious if anyone has looked into Obama winning traditionally red states.

    May 19, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  3. Jean

    Isn't the fact that the Republicans want her to be the Democratic candidate an indication that she'll be the easiest to defeat? No surprise that's what Rove wants.

    May 19, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  4. John

    Looks like we know who Clinton takes her orders from.....

    OBAMA 2008/2012

    May 19, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  5. Thomas

    JE "75,000 in oregon?" They where not all supporters, me and my 6 friends who are Hillary and Nader Supporters just wanted to see what he said, which was nothing (People got to stop driving SUVs and trucks was a funny comment that would only do down in Oregon...), at least we got to see Bruce sing!

    Obama will lose the GE because people are raciest, and if only 2% of the Hillary supporters vote for McCane (thats much less then the 38% saying they will now) Obama will lose the GE. A true reach across the isle ticket of McCane/Hillary would be amazing... but that will never happen. Obama is so left its not even funny and Bush is so right... why cant we vote for someone in the middle for once (Hillary, McCane and Nader)

    May 19, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  6. EBK

    Poor Hillary. No one is even paying her any attention. I really feel bad for her. She wants to be heard so she is backing at anything to get her in the news. That's okay Hill. It's okay to drop out. We don't consider you a failure. Obama '08

    May 19, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  7. Mimi De La Cruz for OBAMA




    May 19, 2008 05:27 pm at 5:27 pm |
  8. James

    BLATENT HIPOCRISY ONCE AGAIN!! She bashes all the pundits who say the exact opposit, and then quotes them when they agree with her.

    May 19, 2008 05:27 pm at 5:27 pm |
  9. Relevant

    Phong Nguyen said:

    "It is unfortunate for S. Clinton that many people are not ready for a strong woman to be the US President for now!!!"

    Actually, I'm perfectly willing to vote for a strong woman. I just haven't seen one in the running yet.

    You see, you and others don't want to accept the following fact: People aren't against Clinton because she's a woman. They aren't against ber because she's white.

    They are against her because she has a lifelong history of corruption and scandal; she has a campaign that is bankrupt, both financially and morally; because she told outright lies to make herself more popular and then told more outright lies to cover for those lies (sniper fire); she moves her own goalposts on a weekly basis to claim she is "in the lead" despite some benchmarks being the exact opposite of what she claimed to be the benchmark just weeks ago (popular vote); and more important than anything else, she demonstrates, still, a greater interest in her own political career than in the welfare of the Democratic Party and the American people.

    Saying that people won't vote for her because she is a woman is irresponsible, oversimplifying, and turning a willful blind eye to the truth of the now-infamous Clinton legacy.

    May 19, 2008 05:27 pm at 5:27 pm |
  10. Robert

    I think she want to see a new ticket

    Clinton/Rove 08 what a joke

    May 19, 2008 05:27 pm at 5:27 pm |
  11. Concerned, Chicago, IL

    Hillary –

    Did you ever stop to think that the Karl Rove stragegy was a plant to keep the dems divided? Yes, he is just that conniving. Put your ego aside for American. Please, good people of Kentucky end this and show the empress that she has no clothes.

    May 19, 2008 05:27 pm at 5:27 pm |
  12. beans, belize C.A

    Karl Rove, Karl Rove you got to be kidding me Hilliary. Can't you see he is a republican attact dog. He would want nothing less to see that this nomination process break up the democratic party.

    Get out of the race Hilliary because you are starting to really bite the republican bate.

    May 19, 2008 05:28 pm at 5:28 pm |
  13. Dixie Dem

    Obama will lose in November, don't kid yourself Obamabots.

    May 19, 2008 05:28 pm at 5:28 pm |
  14. Thomas

    Daryl from Seattle: "Yeah and didn't Karl Rove say Bush was the stronger candidate as well??" Bush Won... so he was stronger, which means he was right... again

    May 19, 2008 05:28 pm at 5:28 pm |
  15. bitter_in_pa

    Time for a new CNN poll ... do you think Hillary Clinton has become mentally / emotionally unstable during this primary?

    – Yes
    – No
    – She was nuts before the primary

    May 19, 2008 05:28 pm at 5:28 pm |
  16. Ransom

    I'm surprised everyone's so dismissive of this, whatever you think of Rove's political views he is skilled and knowledgeable in the field of politics. I mean he got Bush elected, obviously he knows what he's doing. And really what he says is just common sense, Hillary does better in the swing states, obama does well in states the Dems will lose anyway; obviously Hillary has a better chance of winning.

    That's not to say she should be the nominee, whoever wins the most popular votes should, though even that is hard to determine, when it's murky as to whether Florida or Michigan should be counted in the popular vote.

    May 19, 2008 05:28 pm at 5:28 pm |
  17. LLC


    May 19, 2008 05:28 pm at 5:28 pm |
  18. Sarah B. MS

    Yup, she's done. She need's to head back to NYC and get some rest.

    May 19, 2008 05:28 pm at 5:28 pm |
  19. Linda31

    I'm confused....I thought Clinton was a democrat??? Guess I was wrong.

    May 19, 2008 05:29 pm at 5:29 pm |
  20. Michael

    WOW, since when did Rove become an advisor to the Clinton campaign??? Oh well only two more weeks and this will all be over anyway. I don't think anyone is really looking at this race any longer, McCain and Obama realize who their opponents are. I'm hoping that these past few days of McCain getting his comments onto the front page makes all Democrats realize what's at steak here, we need a Democrat in office we cannot afford a third term for Gorge Bush!

    May 19, 2008 05:29 pm at 5:29 pm |
  21. EC

    BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD public statement Sen. Clinton

    There is already serious questions as to your own loyalty to the Democratic Party and these types of comments DOES NOT win you any brownie POINTS!!!

    May 19, 2008 05:29 pm at 5:29 pm |
  22. Peter E

    While at it, I am also becoming more and more distraught with the 'moderation' of these message boards. The 'moderators' seem non-shy about applying their pro-Obama bias, allowing Obama supporters posting single-word entries, personal attacks, insults against Hillary, occasionally even in all-caps, and allowing for very few comments from any other sides. In fact, not once did any of my comments, which include none of the same level of condescension and personal attacks, and certainly no all-caps entries, make it through this biased 'moderation.'

    May 19, 2008 05:29 pm at 5:29 pm |
  23. Anonymous

    Hillary Clinton is such a confused, calculating woman...and that's what makes her so dangerous.

    May 19, 2008 05:30 pm at 5:30 pm |
  24. Aaron

    Citing Karl "Wormtongue" Rove in a stump speech? Shame Hillary.

    The Clinton's reputation in the Democratic Party is officially soiled.

    Oooops...did I say soiled?

    May 19, 2008 05:30 pm at 5:30 pm |

    SHE HAS NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SAYANY THING!!!!!!!!!! DO ANY THING AGAIN SHE HAS NO SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Gallup Daily: Obama Opens Up 16-Point Lead, Biggest Yet NEW May 19, 2008
    Barack Obama now enjoys his largest lead to date over Hillary Clinton in Gallup Poll Daily tracking of Democratic voters’ presidential nomination preferences, 55% to 39%

    May 19, 2008 05:30 pm at 5:30 pm |
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