May 19th, 2008
03:50 PM ET
13 years ago

Clinton: 'This is nowhere near over'

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="Clinton said Monday the Democratic race is not over."]MAYSVILLE, Kentucky (CNN) - Hillary Clinton took a hard line on the state of the Democratic race Monday morning, telling supporters that it is "nowhere near over."

“I’m going to make [my case] until we have a nominee," she told a crowd at a high school gym, "but we’re not going to have one today and we’re not going to have one tomorrow and we’re not going to have one the next day.

“This is nowhere near over, none of us is going to have the number of delegates we’re going to need to get to the nomination,” she argued.

A campaign spokesman clarified, explaining that short of a deluge of superdelegates, Clinton believes neither candidate will have the necessary 2,210 delegates by the last primary on June 3, the number she says is needed because she argues Michigan's and Florida's delegates must be counted.

The Democratic National Committee has set the number of delegates needed at 2,026 after stripping those states of their delegates for moving up their primaries.

The Obama campaign has said that after Oregon and Kentucky’s primaries on Tuesday, they will have the majority of the pledged delegates.

But Clinton told supporters that she has the lead in the popular vote.

"Right now, more people have voted for me than have voted for my opponent," she said. "More people have voted for me than for anybody ever running for president before," she added, referring to previous Democratic primaries.

Clinton also made the same argument to the crowd on Monday that she has been making to superdelegates and to supporters for the past few weeks – it’s about the map.

“The states I’ve won total 300 electoral votes,” she said, explaining that 270 electoral votes are needed to win in November and that many of the states Obama has won will go for John McCain then .

“I still have a cushion if you look at all the states that I have won and take out those that may not be in our column come the fall. My opponent has 217 electoral votes from places like Alaska and Idaho and Utah and Kansas and Nebraska and many of his votes and his delegates come from caucus states, which have a relatively low turnout,” Clinton said.

Angling for a big win in Kentucky similar to West Virginia’s, Clinton tried out a line that she used there last week.

“You know, Kentucky has a history of picking presidents," she said. "People don’t get elected president without winning Kentucky.”

soundoff (561 Responses)
  1. Ed, Santa Fe NM



    May 19, 2008 03:53 pm at 3:53 pm |
  2. Anonymous

    God, that woman is so annoying.
    Give it a rest Hillary! Didn't you ever take 1st grade math?

    May 19, 2008 03:53 pm at 3:53 pm |
  3. Stained Blue Dress

    How many more delegates does Obama need? Even some of the Hillary supporters have admitted this is over, why doesn't she?


    May 19, 2008 03:53 pm at 3:53 pm |
  4. Scott

    OMG... blah blah.. I really hate the bickering between the voters personaly, it's like the Yankees against the Sox. Common, when it comes to the ACTUAL issues at hand, theyt are BOTH THE SAME. Why do you think they had such trouble debating? They had to bring silly issues like the Flag pin and Rev Wright... and all the crap that follows Hillary around. I just really want a president that can count!

    May 19, 2008 03:53 pm at 3:53 pm |
  5. M Philllips

    Hillary, it is time for a reality check. Obama is ahead with pledged and super delegates,popular vote and number of states won. He is also not $20,000,000.00 in debt. He has the same team he started with .Not counting the caucases( which you would be doing if you had performed strongly there) and asking that Florida and Michigan voters be seated as is does two things to the democrats in those states.It disenfranchises those who obeyed the rules and gives the vote( and power) to people who broke the rules. Mrs Clinton, you are a Presidential candidate who needs all sorts of rules broken to succeed yourself.

    May 19, 2008 03:53 pm at 3:53 pm |
  6. WIll

    Many of the states that you won are Democratic strongholds that would not vote Republican at this time, or in the foreseeable future. It's hard to believe that California or New York would go Red. Obama will probably win these states.
    There's another reason while Hillary's campaign is futile. If this whole primary season gets turned around right now, and somehow some way Clinton is able to secure the nomination, the Democratic party will be thrown into chaos. If you think it's bad now, imagine what will happen if The Party gives the nomination to Hillary, citing... whatever... McCain may as well schedule his ticker-tape parade now.

    May 19, 2008 03:53 pm at 3:53 pm |
  7. Bridgette-PA

    Thomas, please stop hatin'. The nominee as you and Hillary both know will be Barack. I can't stand sore losers. What's the problem? Barack won fair and square. If Hillary wouldn't have went into this thing thinking that her last name was going to win this for her, well, you know the rest. All she wants now is for her supporters to get her money back that she "loaned to herself 3X's!). Grow up. We all know that Michigan and Floriday will be seated, just not the way Hillary wants. Let it go and unite. If you are a "true" Democrat, this will be no problem. If you vote for McCain or write Hillary's name in, your a REPUBLICAN to us anyways, and we don't want or need you!


    May 19, 2008 03:53 pm at 3:53 pm |
  8. gdouglas

    Way to go Mrs Clinton Dont play int the hands of the media and the backroom boys, Come on women of America do whats right vote Clinton Lets not be foolish here and believe that Obama is not getting the black vote simply because he is black, its time for you to wisen up and VOTE CLINTON. Maybe you want to have a Govt that will cater to their enimies and sit at the table with them and make small talk.

    May 19, 2008 03:54 pm at 3:54 pm |
  9. Jim Garza

    Berat, Park Ridge, IL:

    Are you 18? Or just stupid? NC and Kansas will vote RED in the General; Oregon will go Blue no matter who the nominee is.

    What is your point?

    Hillary supporters have to save this election and we know that Obama is far to extreme (left) and green to lead this country.

    McCain '08 for Clinton '12

    May 19, 2008 03:54 pm at 3:54 pm |
  10. Jeanne

    For anyone that can count, it's over. I had hoped she was finished with this type of campaigning and just waiting out the final primaries before conceding but it looks like my earlier opinion, that she would fight all the way to the convention, may hold out to be true. I guess she doesn't care about whether the Democrats win in November or whether this nation gets past it's current crisis in leadership. Her current actions may determine her future success. She might not be able to get any type of leadership position, ever, if she keeps going the way she's going.

    May 19, 2008 03:54 pm at 3:54 pm |
  11. Jaybrown

    I really don't know why she continues to raise the number of delegates for nomination knowing that it's not what the DNC set. She's going against the DNC much like the local leadership did in both those states. If she was comfortably ahead, and those states favored Obama, TRUST ME, She would be making the case that they did not obey the party rules. I think it's ok that she remains in this race. I think it's ok that she request for them to do something about Florida and Michigan, but she is insisting that ALL votes count and ALL Delegates seated, when they broke the rules. And she's only saying this because it's in her best interest. And the fact that Obama wasn't even on the ballot and didn't get any votes in Michigan, she doesn't care. It just seems desperate and annoying.

    May 19, 2008 03:54 pm at 3:54 pm |
  12. nate

    Reality has not set in with the Obama campaign that the vast majority of Clinton Supporters, the Reagan Democrats, will not support him in November. He is too far to the left for these conservative Democrats to accept. Obama has proposed to save Social Security by increasing taxes on wage earners, penalties to business who chose to seek labor abroad in an effort to remain competitive globally and remain efficient, keeping in place the marriage tax penalty which directly hurts married couples trying to build families, promoting a constitutional amendment to support gay marriages and his position to promote more restrictive gun control. In short, the Reagan Democrats will be paying the price for Obama's Presidency...We will vote for McCain in November.

    May 19, 2008 03:54 pm at 3:54 pm |
  13. dan

    "The states I’ve won total 300 electoral votes"\

    Who the hell cares. this isnt the general election. Just because one democrat beats another democrat there doesn't mean thats the only democrat that can be a republican. Cali and New York, which alone is nearly 1/3rd of those 300 electoral votes would go democrat if Big Bird was running againts McCain.

    May 19, 2008 03:54 pm at 3:54 pm |
  14. go HRC

    Hillary... it's over, you've lost... now do americans a favor and support Obama....

    2025 is magic the number... not whatever YOU decide is the number...

    and pretty please tell geraldine to go back under the rock from which she came...

    May 19, 2008 03:54 pm at 3:54 pm |
  15. Rich

    Hillary and her supporters... you are boring me....

    Democrat '08

    May 19, 2008 03:54 pm at 3:54 pm |
  16. Julia

    YEAH ! KEEP GOING HILLARY! It is just 2 weeks away from all of the states completeing their primaries. It would be Foolish to stop now. Some people want ot Ordain Obama the winner even though he has not won it yet. This has become a Brokered Primary instead of a popular election. It is the superdelegates who are controling the outcome; this is not the way it should be. The Voters should control the outcome.
    Obama is so Arrogant! He has been implying that he has been a Senator for two years, OK – now he is ready to run the country.

    May 19, 2008 03:54 pm at 3:54 pm |
  17. sue

    Don't take my word for it, but check out Rick Kaplan and the Clinton's. Plenty of dirt there.

    May 19, 2008 03:55 pm at 3:55 pm |
  18. Steve

    Obama will eventually be the Nominee but Clinton has a very good point about the Electoral College. The last two elections were decided by one state It could happen again.

    May 19, 2008 03:55 pm at 3:55 pm |
  19. Harrison

    I have no problem with her campaigning. It is her right to do so.

    BUT – this Jeckyll and Hyde act is getting old. She is a solid democrat one day and a venomous demon the next. Someone needs to check her meds. She defends Obama a few days ago and now he isn't fit to be the best candidate.

    She is a little strange.

    May 19, 2008 03:55 pm at 3:55 pm |
  20. Ryan in FL

    You know what gets me is that HRC keeps saying that she is ahead in the popular vote. She has been fighting to count FL and MI for a long time which in my opinion is an honorable fight given her reasoning, not that I agree (I think the punishment should stand, no dels seated this time around) but for her to NOT to count votes (the cacus) in an argurment that she has the popular vote is just totally CRAZY. I mean lets only count the votes in the only 1 senerio out of 5 to get a leader in the popular vote. I don't get it, does she really think that we are that stupid not to see it. It just bugs the crap out of me that she is so hypocritical.


    May 19, 2008 03:55 pm at 3:55 pm |
  21. Olivia

    If i lived in KY or OR or PR or Montana I would most definately want my vote counted. If Hillary is so irrelevant, why are the Obama people and the rest of the superdelegates so afraid of her.

    That is because she is well loved and regarded...she is very much a viable candidate....and her popular vote is right up there.
    And...if this country is ready for a black man as president then it should be ready for a woman as president, especially since this woman candidate is highly qualified to do the job.
    Superdelegates are trying to push Obama to the finish line and stop this historic race from its natural conclusion.
    All of us Hillary supporters are paying attention to who is dissing her constantly, among other things. we will vote accordingly in Nov.

    May 19, 2008 03:55 pm at 3:55 pm |
  22. Carolina Girl

    Absolutely, Michigan and Florida delegates MUST be counted.
    Aren't they a part of the United States!" Part of the 50 UNITED states.

    Definition of "united" states.... That means ALL 50 states!
    ALL 50 STATES NEED TO BE COUNTED, each vote going to the
    candidate it was specifically cast for. Not 48 states. Not splitting in random fractions going to each candidate. They weren't voted that way so they shouldn't be counted that way.

    Rules were broken MAKING that new rule that Michigan and Florida
    needed to be punished! Where in the constitution does it say that "bad states" who don't follow the new made-up rules, must be "punished" like bad school children. The RULE is wrong.

    May 19, 2008 03:55 pm at 3:55 pm |
  23. Kevin

    If the DNC chose its nominee by popular vote, the Obama campaign would have run its organization differently, and he STILL would win. Hillary is too disorganized to win anything.

    May 19, 2008 03:55 pm at 3:55 pm |
  24. Ron L

    Is Hillary losing her mind??? Doesn't she get it, 53 out of 100 Democratics DO NOT WANT HER TO BE THE NOMINEE!!!







    May 19, 2008 03:55 pm at 3:55 pm |
  25. Eli

    WISE WHITE GUY needs HELP. I dont know why any court case (if there is one) would matter to these Obama kool aid drinkers, just look at all the stuff that has come out on Obama and they are all fine with that. If the skeletons in O's closet dont scare you then nothing should.

    May 19, 2008 03:55 pm at 3:55 pm |
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