May 23rd, 2008
06:30 AM ET
10 years ago

Supporter says Clinton getting desperate

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="Paterson disagrees with Clinton over Florida and Michigan."]
(CNN) - New York Gov. David Paterson, a supporter of Hillary Clinton's White House bid, said Friday the New York senator is showing signs of "desperation" in her continued push to get the full delegations of Michigan and Florida seated.

"I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support and I'll support until whatever time she makes a different determination," Paterson told New York radio station WAMC, according to the New York Daily News. "I thought she was the best candidate and I thought she had the best chance of winning."

The comments come a day after Clinton delivered a fiery speech in Florida demanding that that state's delegation, as well as Michigan's, be fully seated at the party's convention in August. The party stripped both states of their delegations last year after the state legislatures there voted to hold their primaries before February 5.

Clinton won both states' primaries, though Barack Obama removed his name from the ballot in Michigan. Clinton uses popular vote totals from both Florida in Michigan in her claim that she is beating the Illinois senator in the overall popular vote.

“I have heard some say counting Florida and Michigan would be changing the rules,” she said at a rally in Boca Raton. “I say not that not counting Florida and Michigan is changing a central governing rule of this country, that whenever we can understand the clear intent of the voters, their vote should be counted.”

Paterson, a Democratic superdelegate, said he disagreed with the party's initial decision to penalize the states, but added he thought the party should now "leave it where it is."

He also noted none of the presidential candidates - including Hillary Clinton - objected to the penalty when it was imposed last year.

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soundoff (412 Responses)
  1. to: Trollmaster

    I agree with what you said about "If Hillary truly cared about Michigan and Florida, she would have demanded they change the rules BEFORE the election, not now when she's losing."

    Why do we have rules? aren't they supposed to be enforced? not broken?????

    May 22, 2008 05:32 pm at 5:32 pm |
  2. g

    i find it very ironic that senator clinton wants "all" of the votes counted but when she speaks of how she is coming up with the #'s that show her with the popular vote lead she is not including any of the caucus' that obama won, how does do that work???? i guess it's ok for clinton to decide what votes should and shouldn't count and for her supporters to imply that obama is some how cheating, when in fact he beat her fair and square. sorry you weren't given the presidency senator clinton, I know it's everybody elses fault. hey I've got a good idea, instead of trying to fix our country lets just destory our party and complain about stuff, constantly.

    May 22, 2008 05:32 pm at 5:32 pm |
  3. 1926

    Hillary has changed her mind about Fla and Michigan. You know what they say. A wise man changes his mind. A fool never does.

    May 22, 2008 05:32 pm at 5:32 pm |
  4. Mark Johnson

    Getting desperate? Wow, some people have really high bars for determining desperation. One would have thought that praising the Republican, using racist propaganda, trying to change the rules, lying, claiming votes one doesn't have and screaming "misogeny" would be enough to label a campaign "desperate."

    May 22, 2008 05:32 pm at 5:32 pm |
  5. Carl

    Finally, people are starting to say what the mean and what they think. Hillary is still playing politics and it's about time she cuts to the truth (if she remembers how to do that aka sniper fire).

    To the people of Michigan and Florida – be angry not at the DNC or Obama but rather your Republican representatives who moved up the primary and who knew it was against the rules.

    May 22, 2008 05:33 pm at 5:33 pm |
  6. A New Mexican

    I really think the Clinton supporters who are posting on this blog are as delusional as he is. They think that if they say something enough it will be true.

    May 22, 2008 05:33 pm at 5:33 pm |
  7. Michael Gubbons

    Hillary Clinton is our Best canidate for a President. She is confident as is millions upon millions of Americans that she is the BEST canidate for President of these United States! Hillary has the experience and qualties and attributes that the American people want in a President and she will be our next President even if we have to go all the way to the convention floor! Every vote needs to be counted and every state! Obama supporters are switching over by the thousands in support for Hillary. The Iowa voters have reconsidered due to Obamas stand on "talking" with terrorists and are switching to Hillary. Again, the media sadly is so wrong. Like Martin Luther King said "THE TRUTH SHALL SET US FREE!"

    May 22, 2008 05:33 pm at 5:33 pm |
  8. ap

    Since when is the presidency "rightfully" anyones??? We live in a democracy - the voters get to decide. Dynasties have no place in our government.

    May 22, 2008 05:33 pm at 5:33 pm |
  9. Robert

    Clinton will be even more desperate after she sees results of a new poll out today in California (by the Public Policy Institute of California) which shows a dramatic shift in voter support TOWARD Obama, and AWAY from both Clinton and McCain. That includes a big shift among Latinos.

    Now 51% of voters have "unfavorable" view of Clinton, and 53% have unfavorable view of McCain.

    CNN, why aren't you reporting on this?

    OBAMA '08 & '12!

    May 22, 2008 05:33 pm at 5:33 pm |
  10. Cheating again

    Hillary is desperate, she is trying to cheat the American people out of the election. Hillary has broke the rules too and its time for her to go, so wave bye bye hillary and lets move on..........

    May 22, 2008 05:34 pm at 5:34 pm |
  11. FactCheck

    Clinton is doing what any cult leader would do.. playing to the delusions of her followers. Watch her play the "I was unfairly forced out" card to throw the election. Now that it would matter, if McCain is elected, 4 years would be plenty to weed out her followers, many of whom are "economically challenged" .

    May 22, 2008 05:34 pm at 5:34 pm |
  12. anne in OK

    Hillary Supporters: Please explain why any delegates from FL or MI should be awarded to HRC after she signed the following pledge:

    "THEREFORE, I (Hillary Clinton), Democratic Candidate for President, pledge I shall not campaign or participate in any state which schedules a presidential election primary or caucus before Feb. 5, 2008, except for the states of Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina, as “campaigning” is defined by rules and regulations of the DNC. "

    As you can see, she signed that she would not PARTICIPATE in the FL or MI elections. Therefore, she should receive no votes from them. That should be the end of the story. The DNC Rules Committee is making this much harder than it is. Just enforce the candidates' pledges, period.

    May 22, 2008 05:34 pm at 5:34 pm |
  13. dipitashick

    Come on... endorse Obama!
    Obama for president!

    May 22, 2008 05:34 pm at 5:34 pm |
  14. She agreed to the rules

    She should have argued the rules back in January, then I can say she stood ground but she arguing because she and her campaign though she would be the nominee after super Tuesday.

    She say all 50 states should have a say, but she wasn't saying that in February when less than half had voted.

    May 22, 2008 05:35 pm at 5:35 pm |
  15. A Latte Lover, Seattle, WA

    Hillary Clinton is not desperate. The American people are desperate. We are desperate for REAL change that only an EXPERIENCED leader like Hillary Clinton can give us.

    Please tell me Chris in CA, what is Hillary's real EXPERIENCE??? Seriously, I would like to know. Being first lady??? / Foreign policy experience?? You mean like Bosnia-sniper fire??? Corporate Lawyer??? Obama has been in elected office longer than she has. So please, fill me in on all of her vast experience.

    May 22, 2008 05:35 pm at 5:35 pm |
  16. Canadian

    It is shameful how little integrity Hilary Clinton has – she was all for counting out Florida and Michigan when she thought that the primary process was just a formality. She will stoop to anything for power – she ought to be ashamed of herself. It is sad to see how desperate, irrational and unreasonable she has become. It would be terrifying to think that she could be President of the US, given all of the divisive comments that she and Bill have made. Finally, her campaign has been a disaster, despite her "experience" (with several elections behind her), yet Barack has ran an unbelievably proficient campaign. If she can't manage a campaign as well as Barack, even though she is so much more experienced, why does she think that anyone would believe that she would be any better at managing a country?

    May 22, 2008 05:35 pm at 5:35 pm |
  17. Ken Pittsburgh

    The electoral map is to early to count on know If I remanber my history correctly Bill was in the same baot with the map at this point in time. Please tell want winning the wrong states mean. winning is winning and if the information i is see there are more states in play.

    May 22, 2008 05:35 pm at 5:35 pm |
  18. Mike

    Amazing with all of Obama's issues he has made it this far. Anyone else would be gone by now. Not even Bush had as many issues coming in as Obama has.

    It is Hillary 08 or McCain 08 for me.

    May 22, 2008 05:35 pm at 5:35 pm |
  19. hmmmmm.....sounds fishy

    desperation was last week.......this week its foolish thank you KY( not the lube).......first she talk about sexism.......well the only woman is trying to change the rules ........all the black and white males followed the rules according to how they were laid out.........but yes the lady .....did I say that right .......the woman is trying to change the rules........if that is sexism ......its gonna get alot worse for woman after this.........think about it 200 years for your first woman candidate and she is over-confident and starts to lose and then wants the rules changed from the contract she signed before the contest about taking steps backward.......maybe I'm just sexist.......not really....the black candidate has waited the same amount of time and has tried to follow the rules as best he can....I dont know if I am sexist....but the rules are the rules.....hell a black guy is doing just fine following thats something

    May 22, 2008 05:35 pm at 5:35 pm |
  20. Louise

    Desperate! You think!!!!!!

    May 22, 2008 05:35 pm at 5:35 pm |
  21. Jeff

    >Some people are still asking odd questions like "What does Hillary Clinton want?" Hillary decided to run for President in 2008.

    >A majority of Americans said they want Hillary Clinton.

    Then how come she's losing?

    May 22, 2008 05:36 pm at 5:36 pm |
  22. Juston

    His name is spelled Paterson, not Patterson.

    May 22, 2008 05:36 pm at 5:36 pm |
  23. Tammy - KCMO

    I hope the people that count start realizing that she's desperate and not good for the Democratic party. I used to think it would be fine to let her finish out the race. Now I can't wait to see her gone. I will never vote for her in any capacity and if somehow she manages to get the nomination I'll be taking a look at 3rd party candidates.

    The leaders of the DNC are to blame for this fiasco. Now it's time to rein her in and end it before there is no one willing to vote for either of their candidates.

    I get the impression she doesn't sleep anymore. She sits in front of a chalkboard figuring out how to change the numbers so that she will be in the lead. Which states not to count and how to add in all of FL & MI. She's totally lost it. I have no respect for the Clintons at all anymore.

    May 22, 2008 05:36 pm at 5:36 pm |
  24. beverly

    hillary is exhausting, she like the everyready battery that goes on,on,on. hillary needs to listen to some one other bill and her inner self, be a bigger person and do the right thing.

    May 22, 2008 05:36 pm at 5:36 pm |
  25. Go Obama 08/12

    Superdelegates Give them up now ASAP to the leader Obama

    This is nonsence are you trying to ruin the Democratic party ?

    May 22, 2008 05:36 pm at 5:36 pm |
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