May 23rd, 2008
06:30 AM ET
10 years ago

Supporter says Clinton getting desperate

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="Paterson disagrees with Clinton over Florida and Michigan."]
(CNN) - New York Gov. David Paterson, a supporter of Hillary Clinton's White House bid, said Friday the New York senator is showing signs of "desperation" in her continued push to get the full delegations of Michigan and Florida seated.

"I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support and I'll support until whatever time she makes a different determination," Paterson told New York radio station WAMC, according to the New York Daily News. "I thought she was the best candidate and I thought she had the best chance of winning."

The comments come a day after Clinton delivered a fiery speech in Florida demanding that that state's delegation, as well as Michigan's, be fully seated at the party's convention in August. The party stripped both states of their delegations last year after the state legislatures there voted to hold their primaries before February 5.

Clinton won both states' primaries, though Barack Obama removed his name from the ballot in Michigan. Clinton uses popular vote totals from both Florida in Michigan in her claim that she is beating the Illinois senator in the overall popular vote.

“I have heard some say counting Florida and Michigan would be changing the rules,” she said at a rally in Boca Raton. “I say not that not counting Florida and Michigan is changing a central governing rule of this country, that whenever we can understand the clear intent of the voters, their vote should be counted.”

Paterson, a Democratic superdelegate, said he disagreed with the party's initial decision to penalize the states, but added he thought the party should now "leave it where it is."

He also noted none of the presidential candidates - including Hillary Clinton - objected to the penalty when it was imposed last year.

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soundoff (412 Responses)
  1. Ilona from Alberta

    If Hillary would get out of the race she'd be old news within hours..........

    (as the Rolling Stones put it)
    You can't always get what you want..............

    May 22, 2008 05:46 pm at 5:46 pm |
  2. Obama broke DNC rules

    Sorry O Lovers...she will win and it will be with all 50 states counted.

    May 22, 2008 05:46 pm at 5:46 pm |
  3. Terry, Kansas City

    Deb wrote May 22nd, 2008 4:55 pm ET

    I know that Obama and his thugs have stolen this Primary season.
    I will never vote for a cheater!

    Really, does that mean you're not voting for Hillary either?!

    For the Clintons, the rules are the rules until they don't suit them.
    Her threat to take the issue to the convention should be a clear signal that she cares nothing at all for the party. In a year when it should be a cakewalk, her scortched earth campaign endangers the democrats chance for victory this fall. I deeply suspect she wants to ensure Obama's defeat so she can run again in 2012. Hell,she may run again even if he wins. But if he loses, it will be at her feat and she should not be forgiven.

    May 22, 2008 05:46 pm at 5:46 pm |
  4. Mark - St. Paul

    "Getting" desperate? I think Hillary's campaign has clearly been in desperation mode for months. All this garbage about Florida and Michigan only serves to upset the voters of those states, thereby making them less likely to vote democratic in the general election.

    Hillary is not going to win the nomination. Staying in the race only produces negative consequences for the dems. She needs to look past herself and her ego and admit defeat.

    May 22, 2008 05:46 pm at 5:46 pm |
  5. Jerry in Florida

    What a turn-coat! And this guy considers himself Senator Clinton’s friend and supporter. With friends like this, really, who needs enemies? Give ME a break!

    I wonder if Governor Patterson has been coursed by Senator Obama and his supporters. His campaign has been accused of doing just that in Texas and other states. Nothing would surprise about Senator Obama and his campaign's tactics.

    May the Lord help us!

    May 22, 2008 05:46 pm at 5:46 pm |
  6. Jim


    OBAMA/HAGEL 2008

    May 22, 2008 05:46 pm at 5:46 pm |
  7. Unshrub

    People are just now seeing signs of desperation in Hillary?

    May 22, 2008 05:47 pm at 5:47 pm |
  8. nawlinsborn

    I am completely baffled and disappointed by the Clinton campaign. I do not understand how one agrees to rules of fair play (regardless of personal opinion of the rules) and once the the rules do not play to your favor, you lobby officials, the public, the media, and who ever will listen to change the rules you agreed to in the beginning. In sports, that would be condemned as bad sportmanship. I cannot respect her present stance. From taunting unfair media coverage to sexism to biased DNC rules, her entire argument is flawed. Both Obama and Clinton have endured tough scrutiny during their campaigns. Both candidates can make a case for why he or she had a disadvantage. To become America's FEMALE presidential candidate is a weak stance to take. That is the equivalent of Obama being merely America's BLACK presidential candidate. It is limiting and disappointing to regulate yourself to a category and use those limitations as a platform to win. Additionally, I was HIGHLY offended for a Senator I respected to state a viable candidate cannot appeal to "hardworking, white Americans". How could any Clinton supporter agree with those comments and condemn the Rev. Wright's comments as racist and unpatriotic? Fair play is fair play for all!

    May 22, 2008 05:47 pm at 5:47 pm |
  9. moderate clinton supporter

    to those individuals that ontinue to insist that obama will win without these states...I feel sorry for you... do you not understand the electorl system. you cold win 35 small states but without michigan, fl, NY, CA, TX, OH, you won't take the election. I'm not sure who thinks texas is a swing state but...wake up and smell the oil companies it's a red to the end.
    so for all you clinton haters take moment to turn down the rhetoric and actually become informed on the issues...
    a young, half african american clinton supporter.

    May 22, 2008 05:47 pm at 5:47 pm |
  10. Go Gal and Guys

    Well, I suppose it must be crying times for all of you Democrats and Republicans. It appears as though it is difficult for some of your candidates to follow the rules. At last! Rules are made to be broken are they not? Imagine a little child witnessing and adult temper-trantrum which is no less than what Senators Clinton and McCain seemingly are having. The truth is the light and Senator Obama is going to be the next President of these United States of America unless the states Senator Clinton carried decide to succeed from the Union afterall, the white rural vote or perhaps blue-collar votes is the only one that matters. Hmmm! I better think twice about that before I answer again.

    May 22, 2008 05:47 pm at 5:47 pm |
  11. fred

    You got that right Big Rod!!!

    May 22, 2008 05:47 pm at 5:47 pm |

    I'm just waiting to see if this election is stolen from him or not. We'll see May 31, 2008 when the Dems meet. I'm starting to think that she knows she lost but is still in it to force his hand at being Vice President. This woman says she'll campaign until August. If that's not sabbatage then what is. She'll keep the party split until August if he doesn't put her on the ticket. August is way to close to the General Election. At first I thought they would be wonderful together but Hillary has totally turned me off. She lies, she cries, and wants rules changed to suit her. Very conniving. She's an opportunist and is taking advantage of the Michigan and Florida citizens. She's playing on their emotions. If Hilary had contested the ruling of Florid and Michigan being seated in the begining I would still have respect for her. You can't change the rules because you're loosing. She feels like she deserves the nomination when actually it has to be earned.

    May 22, 2008 05:47 pm at 5:47 pm |
  13. Edia

    I love HILLARY'S determination and experience. We need her her on our side. She will make a great president. Obama will lose to Mcain like Kerry did. Democrats!, wake up, we need HILLARY. GO HILLARY!!


    May 22, 2008 05:48 pm at 5:48 pm |
  14. fred

    Mary May 22nd, 2008 5:41 pm ET

    I just came back from a parallel universe where Hillary was in the lead and laughing at the notion of allowing FL & MI.

    She kept on saying, my opponent is desperate. He wants to change the rules AGAIN. How can we now change the rules at this late stage in the game? My opponent agreed to these rules in 2007. We need a president that abides by the rules.

    The point is, would Hillary fight this hard if FL & MI would benefit Obama?

    Can we call this more SNIPER FIRE and call it a day?


    May 22, 2008 05:48 pm at 5:48 pm |
  15. Jeff in Illinois

    Not one delegate has voted yet. The convention is in August. FL and MI should have been counted. Everyone in those states were told their vote wouldn't matter. The problem is that they turned out in record numbers. The other problem is that we need these two states to win the White House. No worries. It's Clinton or it is nothing.

    May 22, 2008 05:48 pm at 5:48 pm |
  16. No Way

    It is now time to quit! Thanks for playing in the thing called the democratic proccess. Better luck next time.

    May 22, 2008 05:48 pm at 5:48 pm |
  17. Democrat for Hillary or McCain

    Please post this correction to my above posted comment:

    "Kerry was weak and his wife was appealing as a first lady."

    I meant to write: His wife was UNappealing as first lady.
    That's one of the reasons Kerry lost. It will be the same with Obama.

    May 22, 2008 05:48 pm at 5:48 pm |
  18. Arlington TX

    The Key words that he you was he "Thought she was", now by thinking it to be so in the begining don't make it right....

    May 22, 2008 05:49 pm at 5:49 pm |
  19. Denise from TX

    Who is this Deb clown that claims Obama cheated? HRC AGREED to not count the votes in FL and MI. PLEASE ASK YOURSELF PEOPLE, WHY DO YOU KEEP TRYING TO CONVINCE YOURSELF THAT YOU DISLIKE OBAMA FOR OTHER REASONS THAN HIM BEING BLACK.?? He is not a thug, he is not Rev. Wright (what about McCains anti-Jew pastor). He is a charasmatic, brilliant community service man that can and will make a diffrence in this country. His Senate record is MORE ACOMPLISHED than Hillary Clinton. Being first lady does not make you "co-president". Where on earth is all this experience that she boasts about? The rules have always been the rules, and now that they are not in her favor, she wants them changed. By the way, the reason Obama does so much better among educated people is because just that!! They are educated!! They are not living in the back woods with the incest rednecks and KKK members. Keep your vote, stay home or vote for McCain, we don't want your stupid vote anyway. Keep living in poverty because your narrow prejudice mind won't vote for the "black guy" no matter how qualified he really is. We are in a different place and time and this man can and WILL WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    May 22, 2008 05:49 pm at 5:49 pm |
  20. Hillary supporter

    The blind leading the blind-obama followers–go back to your mistress!

    May 22, 2008 05:49 pm at 5:49 pm |
  21. Mike from Westchester

    Desperate? We have been in the Twilight Zone for a while now.

    The DNC is totally out of control. Howard Dean is useless.

    May 22, 2008 05:49 pm at 5:49 pm |
  22. Kelly

    With supporters like Patterson, who needs enemies? Hillary is the BEST candidate. What is she suppose to do sit back and be submissive and tell the DNC "Good 'ol Boys" that this is too much hastle for her; she gives up. Would they expect a football team to quit the game minutes before the clock runs out just because they are behind. No! They would expect them to fight as hard as they can until the gun goes off. Then why does it seem so rediculous to people that Hillary keeps on fighting until someone has WON? Not just BEEN PROCLAIMED the winner by the media.
    It is not outrageous to go to the Convention without a winner.

    So when people in the media say that anytime there was arguing at the convention the party did not win – these people ARE MISLEADING THE PUBLIC.

    May 22, 2008 05:50 pm at 5:50 pm |
  23. Noah

    I am so tired of hearing bad comments about Hillary Clinton. From day one she has insisted that Michigan and Florida should be seated. Obama even agree's. She has not broke any rules. The so-called rules you all refer to were not to campaign in those states. There was no rule about name's on ballots.

    Hillary should be our nominee, the media and an organized effort by the Obama camp have distorted her message. It will take a Clinton to get a democrat in the White House. Obama can not win without Hillary. The DNC will not offend AA's by giving the nomination to the person who actually can win. Therefor we will have an Obama/Clinton ticket,,,because Hillary actually carries the major democrats we need to get elected.

    May 22, 2008 05:50 pm at 5:50 pm |
  24. Mary

    I heard Hillary went on American Idol yesterday and screamed out at the top of her lungs.

    ‘I’m not giving up. I’m staying in this contest until every vote has been counted……..oh, make sure you just count the states that pick me!

    Simon resonded, “Hillary, I don’t want to be rude but can you get off the stage. We need to pick a real winner”

    May 22, 2008 05:50 pm at 5:50 pm |
  25. Mimi De La Cruz for OBAMA


    May 22, 2008 05:50 pm at 5:50 pm |
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