May 23rd, 2008
06:30 AM ET
10 years ago

Supporter says Clinton getting desperate

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="Paterson disagrees with Clinton over Florida and Michigan."]
(CNN) - New York Gov. David Paterson, a supporter of Hillary Clinton's White House bid, said Friday the New York senator is showing signs of "desperation" in her continued push to get the full delegations of Michigan and Florida seated.

"I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support and I'll support until whatever time she makes a different determination," Paterson told New York radio station WAMC, according to the New York Daily News. "I thought she was the best candidate and I thought she had the best chance of winning."

The comments come a day after Clinton delivered a fiery speech in Florida demanding that that state's delegation, as well as Michigan's, be fully seated at the party's convention in August. The party stripped both states of their delegations last year after the state legislatures there voted to hold their primaries before February 5.

Clinton won both states' primaries, though Barack Obama removed his name from the ballot in Michigan. Clinton uses popular vote totals from both Florida in Michigan in her claim that she is beating the Illinois senator in the overall popular vote.

“I have heard some say counting Florida and Michigan would be changing the rules,” she said at a rally in Boca Raton. “I say not that not counting Florida and Michigan is changing a central governing rule of this country, that whenever we can understand the clear intent of the voters, their vote should be counted.”

Paterson, a Democratic superdelegate, said he disagreed with the party's initial decision to penalize the states, but added he thought the party should now "leave it where it is."

He also noted none of the presidential candidates - including Hillary Clinton - objected to the penalty when it was imposed last year.

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soundoff (412 Responses)
  1. Roger

    Interesting that Hillary says the votes must be counted as they were cast to reflect all voters. Of course she neglects to worry about those in Michigan that voted for other and couldn't vote for the candidate of their choice who may or may not have been Obama.

    Really what Hillary is saying is that it is all about counting all the votes for her. It really is about her, not the American people!!

    May 22, 2008 05:50 pm at 5:50 pm |
  2. Sarah

    I have never seen more power hungry, self-absorbed, people as these Clintons. It's all about them. Go away and take your gutter politics with you. OBAMA 08'

    May 22, 2008 05:50 pm at 5:50 pm |
  3. Ed, Santa Fe, NM

    Hillary has the desperation of INSANITY....

    No VP for this lunatic

    May 22, 2008 05:50 pm at 5:50 pm |
  4. Jaci

    If Obama was unelectable, he would not be heading towards the nomination! Come with better logic.

    May 22, 2008 05:50 pm at 5:50 pm |
  5. JKan

    "Is this a 48 state union or as oabma says '57 with one to go'.

    This will have to be settled by a judge.

    It should go all the way.

    This LONG primary run has made the weaklings like 'Judas' , Edwards, Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Dean – all lose sight of what's ahead. These are the people ruining the party and blaming Hillary for that.

    I hope the party got rid of these spine-less members- somehow.

    May 22, 2008 05:50 pm at 5:50 pm |
  6. Bubba

    The DNC and Mad Dog Dean and the DNC rules committee have successfully demolished the party and it cannot recover. Another party will have to be built from the ashes. Good riddance to a party that cannot even govern itself, much less a country.

    May 22, 2008 05:51 pm at 5:51 pm |
  7. wise electorate

    To Michigan Dem

    Well said. I could not agree with you more.

    May 22, 2008 05:51 pm at 5:51 pm |
  8. Trenton Sims, Los Angeles

    none of the presidential candidates — including Hillary Clinton — objected to the penalty when it was imposed last year.

    Patterson, a Democratic superdelegate, said he disagreed with the party's initial decision to penalize the states, but added he thought the party should now "leave it where it is."


    Enough of this spilled milk..! IF i coulda..IF I shoulda..IF I Woulda....

    May 22, 2008 05:51 pm at 5:51 pm |
  9. mj

    This is to Mai, why did Hillary agree to these rules and sign that she agreed to them. Do you honestly think that she would be trying to get them counted if she where ahead? Many of her campaign staff were a part of the decision to ignore MI and FL. I really think you are smart enough to know that this was not Obama's decision. And if you don't have rules and enforce them, all of the states would be trying to change the dates of their primaries. And Hillary doesn't want to count the caucus's–is this Obama's fault? It's time to look honestly at your candidate and see that what she is doing is no better than what many criminals do–"but the rules are SO unfair!!!"

    May 22, 2008 05:51 pm at 5:51 pm |
  10. A New Mexican

    couldn't have said it better 'sick and tired'

    May 22, 2008 05:52 pm at 5:52 pm |
  11. Jonathan

    I think it is time to start getting the party together. Hilary can finish the primary but after june 3, she needs to let us win that election.
    We are the ones we have been waiting for!

    Obama 08!

    May 22, 2008 05:52 pm at 5:52 pm |
  12. Why the spin?

    The governor also said that Hillary was the best candidate with the best chance of winning.

    May 22, 2008 05:52 pm at 5:52 pm |
  13. veteran

    Clinton has always been desperate to be president!

    May 22, 2008 05:52 pm at 5:52 pm |
  14. G.moody

    Barack has nothing to do with the reason Michigan and Florida aren't being seated at the moment. I wish people would stop blaming this man for something he has no control over!!!

    Blah Blah blah...I'm sick of it!! If you want to vote for my guest. It's time for Hillary to get out of this race! This has gotten old...and it isn't helping the Dem party one bit!!!

    May 22, 2008 05:52 pm at 5:52 pm |
  15. Zion

    Hillary Clinton is a disgrace and should start thinking of her legacy. In addition, lets recount, especially Michigan (home of many college towns.) Remember Obama has the educated vote...

    Hillary bringing back bigotry '08

    May 22, 2008 05:53 pm at 5:53 pm |
  16. Harry C

    Good for Patterson, Now when are some of the other die hards going to see the light?

    May 22, 2008 05:53 pm at 5:53 pm |
  17. Unshrub

    to If not Hillary....then McCain

    Hillary is not only a bully, but she is an arrogant bully. She has manipulated the rules and then her followers have the nerve to claim Obama is the one in fault. If you are going to vote to McCain, go vote for him and quit your whinny, and then live with the results of another 4 years of republican screw-ups.

    PS. Most of us are sick of you sore loosers.

    May 22, 2008 05:53 pm at 5:53 pm |
  18. Canadian

    Clinton's pride is wounded and she cannot understand why people aren't falling into a "goosestep" behind her.

    Don't go away mad Hil', just go away

    May 22, 2008 05:53 pm at 5:53 pm |
  19. White & Old Midwest Female

    We will soon see that the DNC will uphold their decision...they MUST; otherwide, what does their leadership and decision-making abilities mean?

    The DNC should carefully look at ANY support given to HRC presently or in the future. She's not only taking on Barack Obama now, but is leading the opposition against the party...where is her loyalty and respect?

    I think we should all count ourselves very very lucky that this woman did not get further than what she did in this contest. Clearly, it's "me, me, me" and nothing else in her eyes...simply because she thinks she's better and deserves it. Very sad and sick and even dangerous.

    May 22, 2008 05:53 pm at 5:53 pm |
  20. Question

    Why are people so dead set against having the people in Michigan and Florida get to vote? The people voting aren't the ones that made the decision to change the date. People call Hillary desperate, but at least she is "desperate" on the side of counting everyone's vote; it seems that Obama has been desperate not to count everyone's vote. You people quote the arbitrary rules like this is a game and all that matters is who wins and who loses. God forbid the goal be to serve the good of the people by following their will.

    May 22, 2008 05:53 pm at 5:53 pm |
  21. Fightproperly

    OBAMA supporters,
    When a Republican tells you that ending the war in Iraq and leaving Iraq is equivalent to Surrender tell them this;


    OBAMA 08, 12

    May 22, 2008 05:53 pm at 5:53 pm |
  22. R.I.F.

    If not Hillary....then McCain May 22nd, 2008 5:39 pm ET
    Ok everyone, here are the facts….the caucus states were strong-armed by the Obama campaign, plain and simple. Texas-two-step, time and location of caucuses and intimidation
    I'm from Texas, try again. The list of excues why Hillary's behind just keep growing and growing and growing.

    Caucases, sexism, reverse racism, FL & MI, media... Maybe Hillary lost because she ran a bad campaign and came into the primary wswith over 50% negative rating. What's next? I'm almost afraid to ask.

    May 22, 2008 05:53 pm at 5:53 pm |
  23. Bobby tray

    I think someone upstream someone said Obama supporters hate Hilary.? By no means. But, I do see a lot Hilary supporters acting like children picking up their marbles and going home (ie not voting or voting for McCain)because they are not winning. Peole need to grow up.

    May 22, 2008 05:53 pm at 5:53 pm |
  24. Jackie

    Hillary is just plain wrong for insisting on seating the delegates in Florida and Michigan. Both states clearly knew what was at stake if they chose to conduct their primaries early, and yet they did so anyway. It is blatantly unfair to now seek to change the rules, in effect saying, "Now that I'm losing, I want to count the votes and delegates of those states after all." This shows a clear lack of integrity on her part, as well as selfishness. In continuing to beat this drum, she is showing her true colors. She purports to champion "change" but her actions show just how slippery she really is. I wouldn't want her in the White House.

    May 22, 2008 05:53 pm at 5:53 pm |
  25. Mike from Westchester

    I believe that most everyone wants to allow the Michigan and Florida delegations to participate at the convention. However, it is pretty obvious that the goal of the Clinton supporters is to win the nomination, and this is an avenue toward that end. The solution must not unfairly advantage either candidate.

    How do we know how many people would have come out and voted if they knew the results would be counted? What would the results have been had there been campaigning (Obama has closed gaps in every state he campaigned in)? How would Michigan have turned out if Obama's and Edwards' names were on the ballot (and don't say they pulled their names off – Hillary was supposed to and reneged on her pledge)? You can't use the votes as is – simply not a fair solution.

    Florida and Michigan voters, you should know who stripped your delegates. The 29 – 1 vote included 12 key Clinton supporters, including Harold Ickes. The lone dissenting vote – by an Obama supporter.

    Terry McAuliffe to Carl Levin when Levin said that Michigan was going to violate the DNC rules and move its convention. Levin had said, "You won't deny us seats at the convention."

    McAuliffe, "Carl, take it to the bank. The will not get a credential. The closest they'll get will be watching it on television. I will not let you break this entire nominating process for one state. The rules are the rules. If you want to call my bluff, Carl, you go ahead and do it."

    From the book, "What a Party" by Terry McAuliffe

    May 22, 2008 05:53 pm at 5:53 pm |
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