May 23rd, 2008
06:30 AM ET
10 years ago

Supporter says Clinton getting desperate

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="Paterson disagrees with Clinton over Florida and Michigan."]
(CNN) - New York Gov. David Paterson, a supporter of Hillary Clinton's White House bid, said Friday the New York senator is showing signs of "desperation" in her continued push to get the full delegations of Michigan and Florida seated.

"I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support and I'll support until whatever time she makes a different determination," Paterson told New York radio station WAMC, according to the New York Daily News. "I thought she was the best candidate and I thought she had the best chance of winning."

The comments come a day after Clinton delivered a fiery speech in Florida demanding that that state's delegation, as well as Michigan's, be fully seated at the party's convention in August. The party stripped both states of their delegations last year after the state legislatures there voted to hold their primaries before February 5.

Clinton won both states' primaries, though Barack Obama removed his name from the ballot in Michigan. Clinton uses popular vote totals from both Florida in Michigan in her claim that she is beating the Illinois senator in the overall popular vote.

“I have heard some say counting Florida and Michigan would be changing the rules,” she said at a rally in Boca Raton. “I say not that not counting Florida and Michigan is changing a central governing rule of this country, that whenever we can understand the clear intent of the voters, their vote should be counted.”

Paterson, a Democratic superdelegate, said he disagreed with the party's initial decision to penalize the states, but added he thought the party should now "leave it where it is."

He also noted none of the presidential candidates - including Hillary Clinton - objected to the penalty when it was imposed last year.

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soundoff (412 Responses)
  1. Terrence (Winston Salem, NC)

    He also noted none of the presidential candidates — including Hillary Clinton — objected to the penalty when it was imposed last year.

    I especially like this point which isn't emphasized enough. Everyone is backing Clinton when she was in on the the agreement.

    It's the same with her view on the war. She's so against it NOW. So her followers tend to forget that she voted for the war.

    But yet SHE has the experience and judgement???? NOT.

    May 22, 2008 05:11 pm at 5:11 pm |
  2. Audrey Marie

    Please stop shoving the Clintons down our throats. They will do a lot of damange to our country if allowed to be in White HOuse again.
    Everyone knows it except CNN and hungry news media.. The people know it. Read Washington post polls. Clinton is not winning any states. True Read it. NewsMax polls. Clinton is losing against Obama and McCain. TRUE

    May 22, 2008 05:11 pm at 5:11 pm |
  3. Adam, Los Angeles


    If Sen. Clinton is all the things you say and think she is, why isn't she winning?

    May 22, 2008 05:11 pm at 5:11 pm |
  4. Dylan

    "He also noted none of the presidential candidates — including Hillary Clinton — objected to the penalty when it was imposed last year"

    For all you numbskulls who keep blaming Obama for the fiasco in Florida and Michigan... read that sentence. Then read it again and agian until it finally get through to your brain...

    HILLARY AGREED TO RULES, THEN (once she needed these states to win) TRIED TO CHANGE THEM!

    May 22, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  5. Ambrose, Ottawa

    That's right, leave it the way it is. Every party rule that seems not to rob Obama to pay the Clintons even the long standing party rules has become wrong. Selfishness! These rules gave Bill nomination in the 90s. God sits in heaven and rules in the affairs of men. God's will amd council alone will continue to stand in American politics. Amen!

    May 22, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  6. Stephina

    Why is everyone so scared to seat the delegates from Florida & Michigan??

    I keep reading that Obama supporters are saying that Clinton is trying to steal the nomination and that is just crazy.

    Clinton has a right to stay in the race (especially with such a close margin) all the way to the Democratic National Convention. She has every right to have the delegates seated from Michigan and Florida and she every right to present her case to the superdelegates that she has won the popular vote over Obama.

    Why is everyone so upset??

    It really does not matter because Obama will never be President of United States. I am so amazed that anyone truly believes that is even possible but I guess it okay to have a fantancy.

    McCain in 2008

    May 22, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  7. go blue

    Thank you, Governor Patterson!

    Finally someone with some sense speaking up!

    May 22, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  8. sophia nyc

    So why don't you stop talking and start doing by defecting to Obama.

    Every week it's something new with you on local news here. Do something for heaven's sake.

    May 22, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  9. mmd

    Eventhough he supports Hillary, he can see that what she is trying to do is beyong the pail. She is so sad. Please help her to accept that she is not and will not be the dem prez pick.

    May 22, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  10. HereWeGo

    Getting desperate????? She has been desperate since Penn/ Ohio contests. More like she is trying to make sure Obama looses if she and Bill cannot win back the white house. Just embarrashing.

    May 22, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  11. Peter, Ft. Lauderdale

    Hillary has lost the delegate count, superdelegate count, popular vote,
    number of states won. No amount of desperation will change that fact.
    In order to be the winner, you have to actually win. She lost. Notice that
    the DNC is quiet about all of the media hype? That's because their
    decision is final. They will not abide by Hillary's cheating. The most that
    they are going to do is give a 50/50 split in FL and MI delegates, which
    is the only fair thing to do. Hillary is just bluffing and trying to get the
    voters riled up to fight for her just like the bullies who used to push other kids up to fight in middle school. This woman is a trip.

    May 22, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  12. WIll

    The real issue is that EVERYONE in the DNC has stated that they will find a way to resolve the Florida and Michigan delegations. All the rhetoric is detracting. If every one just COOLS THE HECK OFF, the situation will be resolved by the convention. Once again, the democrats will find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Sheer incompetence versus power hungry dictators. Ventura is right.

    May 22, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  13. Elisabeth

    It is unfair to penalize Florida Democrats for the political maneuvers of the governor and legislature. If Florida isn’t seated, and if this problem isn’t resolved, the Democratic Party will pay dearly in November.

    May 22, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  14. Proud American

    Clinton desperate... so whats new.

    May 22, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  15. Stennis, CA

    I belive the delegates from both Florida and Michagan should not be seated because they broke the rules and they need to deal with the results of their actions.

    May 22, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  16. Let's get this straight

    It always surprised me how low Hillary can go. As previously stated, she as well as Obama knew that the delegates won would not count in MI and FL. Crying foul now is just ridiculous.

    And on that same note, for Hillary supporters, this was decided by the democratic party in FL and MI to move up the dates and therefore incur a penalty. Do not blame Barack Obama for following the rules.

    May 22, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  17. JAC

    At last someone from the Clinton camp took courage to admit that Clinton is in complete denial can someone contact Dr. Phil maybe he can help Senator Clinton come to grips with reality.

    Obama for President.

    May 22, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  18. Mary

    May God have mercy on this woman. She made statements about the votes not counting. This is one of her dirty tatics to get what she wants. Those states chosed to be penalized and that is how it should remain. Again i will say if you have to do otherwise split the votes in half and then give each of them one fourth of a half. By not counting Florida and Michigan is the choice they made.

    May 22, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  19. Steve

    Desperate? Ya think? I think this guy called her out pretty good.

    May 22, 2008 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  20. Blue collar worker

    if obama is crown king, i guess the american people deserve what they will surely get. It will be change alright, just not what you think.

    May 22, 2008 05:13 pm at 5:13 pm |
  21. Chuck R

    The DNC will seat delegates from Florida and Michigan. Obama will have to agree to something. He can not decide to just dump on the Democrats from those two states.

    We are seeing Obama's leadership skills on this issue and to this point it is to avoid responsibility and blame others. The Democratic Party is in his control as of this moment. That rules committee is looking to his campaign for direction. They already know that Clinton wants the delegates from Florida and Michigan to be seated.

    How will Obama lead. We will find out in the next few days. Will he reach an agreement with Clinton? Will he tell the Democrat's in Florida and Michigan to jump off of a cliff? Or, will he blame Howard Dean? His leadership skills to this point has been to blame everyone else.

    Let's see what he does... the country is watching.

    May 22, 2008 05:13 pm at 5:13 pm |
  22. Max, SD

    Ann, why is the presidency "rightfully" Hillary's? When did she become queen?

    May 22, 2008 05:13 pm at 5:13 pm |
  23. JB

    Ding Ding Ding-

    Give that man a prize. Desperation is correct!

    She is only hurting the party, and she and her supporters are either completely blind, or, don't really care about the party.

    This isn't a sporting event! The idea is to vote for the person who is most closely aligned with your views on the issues.

    If you supported Hillary, then there is no argument, Obama is your guy. Unless you are a spiteful child!

    May 22, 2008 05:13 pm at 5:13 pm |
  24. SamSunny

    I am from Washington, how about counting the voters in my state? Or are Florida and Michigan more important to you than the Caucus states. Your numbers are flawed and you know it. This is getting beyond reasonable. We have had story tellers and misinformation coming out of the White House for 8 years. We don't need a candidate who seems to use the same methods as George Bush – lies. It is time to be a reasonable adult and set aside. Your tenacity looks more like a tantrum now.

    May 22, 2008 05:14 pm at 5:14 pm |
  25. Tammy_NH


    Why do you keep propelling the lie of the popular vote count? One has to not count the caucus states in the new Hillary math in order for her to obtain her silly numbers. Which oddly enough are white working majority's you claim Obama can't win.

    If CNN was doing it's job as reporting NEWS, this outrage would be included in your story. Neither you nor she care about 'disenfranchising' voters in these caucus states that followed the rules. Where is that huge tidbit of info in your coverage?

    Rule breakers get the limelight and can make the difference, meanwhile rule followers have no voice in the Clinton-News-Network, I'm really disgusted!

    CNN you really are shameless in failing to educate the populace, you get a D- for failing to inform the public. Unless one is a political junkie they have little to no clue as to what the facts are, no thanks to your lopsided and biased reporting.

    May 22, 2008 05:14 pm at 5:14 pm |
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