May 27th, 2008
10:25 AM ET
14 years ago

Obama supporters planning DNC counter-protest

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="Both Clinton and Obama supporters are planning to protest outside Saturday's RBC meeting in Washington."] WASHINGTON (CNN) - Supporters of Barack Obama’s presidential bid are planning to demonstrate outside the Saturday meeting in Washington where Democratic officials are slated to debate the seating of the Florida and Michigan delegations at the party’s summer convention.

The move comes days after backers of Hillary Clinton’s White House run announced plans to converge on the Washington, D.C. hotel where members of the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee are meeting.

“Hillary Clinton's supporters are going to be bussing in protestors for the Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting, so it's critical that we show up for the counter-protest,” wrote on organizer in a post on the Daily Kos Web site Tuesday morning.

Last week, the pro-Clinton Committee to Count Every Vote said it was organizing a day-long May 31 rally outside the RBC meeting.

“Our purpose is not to divide the party or attack the DNC or Senator Obama. Michigan and Florida, however, in addition to Hillary's strong support nationwide, cannot and must not be dismissed in DNC efforts to unify the party.”

The group said it was organizing buses to carry protestors to the meeting site, and could offer some overnight housing for those who could not afford to pay for accommodations.

Earlier this month, Clinton told a group of bloggers who support her candidacy that she encouraged efforts to lobby the committee.

“I thank you for zeroing in on the May 31 meeting. There will be a lot of activity around that meeting,” she said on a conference call, adding that it was “important your voices are heard” by DNC members.

A limited number of seats inside Saturday’s meeting were scheduled to be made available by the DNC at 10 a.m. ET Tuesday – but as of 10 minutes after the hour, all those seats had been claimed. Limited same-day registration will be available as space permits, according to the party’s Web site.

Those who make it inside will have to abide by strict guidelines banning “banners, posters, signs, handouts, and noisemakers of any kind” – and they won’t have a chance to weigh in, since there is no allowance for public comment.

Clinton’s campaign has pushed for both the Florida and Michigan delegations to be seated in full in accordance with the results of their January primaries, which were not sanctioned by the DNC because they were scheduled early in defiance of party instructions. Clinton was the only major candidate to appear on the ballot in Michigan, and won both contests.

The DNC, state Democratic parties and both presidential campaigns have said that they are eager for a compromise that would allow both Florida and Michigan to send delegations to the party’s nominating convention in Denver – but all sides stress that the solution would have to be acceptable to both campaigns.

Obama senior adviser David Axelrod signaled in an interview last week that the Illinois senator might be willing to consider a compromise that would give a slight advantage to Clinton.

Filed under: Candidate Barack Obama • Florida • Hillary Clinton • Michigan
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  1. Sheila

    In a free society, democracy dictates that everyone's vote be counted. If the shoe were on the other foot, Obama supporters would also insist that all voices be heard.

    The Democratic Party cannot afford to turn its back on Florida and Michigan. Whoever ends up as the nominee will certainly need the support of these states.

    Let's rise above the political infighting and let all the people be counted.

    May 27, 2008 11:16 am at 11:16 am |
  2. John Karsten, Virginia Beach, VA

    Tis is crap to me. FL and MI will be seated, but sorry hillbots, it will not change the outcome as many of you hope. They will be seated, but they will not change the results. Only one or two more weeks of the queen. Then we can get down to beating Mcbush in Nov.

    May 27, 2008 11:16 am at 11:16 am |
  3. Lydia

    It borders on the criminal for the Clinton campaign to take advantage of the people of Florida and Michigan. She did not care about their voting rights last year when she thought she would wrap up the nomination on February 5th, when she thought their votes would not matter. For her to be so concerned now about every person's vote being counted is self-serving.

    Bill and Hillary know the popular vote does not win the primary nor does it win the general election. For the primary it is the number of delegates; for the general its the electoral college.

    Additionally, this entire meeting scheduled for May 31, 2008, is based on race. If the situation were reversed and Clinton was leading in popular votes, leading in total number of elected delegates, leading in total number of superdelegates, and leading in number of states won, Obama would have been chased out of the race. In fact, after winning eleven states in a row, Obama would have been chased out of the race a loooong time ago.

    Rules are the rules and it is ludicrous to hold a meeting to make a final determination on an issue that has been settled for more than a year. The time to have had these discussions....the ramifications of disenfranchising the people of Florida and Michigan as punishment for what their political leaders did....was last year. Now now.

    But it is par for the course. The African American is winning by the rules, so we need to change the rules.

    Racism is so transparent sometimes. Sigh.

    May 27, 2008 11:16 am at 11:16 am |
  4. Eric

    There you go, it had to be expected. That's the problem when you have Clinton agreeing on the rules only to change her mind when she realized she needed those votes. But that was not enough for her. She has to compare that to the fight for civil rights and even accuse Obama who has been coherent since the biginning. And yes, enough of her supporters, blind to her lies, really think she is fighting for some kind of justice. Funny.

    For me, it's hard to imagine that when the day to vote will come, a real democrat will say: Wait a minute, let's vote for the guy who wants tax cut only for the rich, fight for pro-life agenda, wants to pursue Bush's politics, and so on. Those bloggers saying they'll vote for Mccain over Obama are simply real republicans in disguise. There is no sane democrat who can say such a thing, considering Obama's and Clinton's positions on social and economic issues are similar. And you can't argue he lacks the strenght or the experience, considering he had a terrific campaign and came from nowhere to beat the anointed candidate.

    For those Clinton's supporters saying your candidate was treated disrespectfully, I would argue the opposite. I had never seen a candidate saying so many lies and getting away with them because the press let her do it. The last one being about her huband clinching the nomination in June, while in his own autobiography, he himself writes that the deal was done in April. That's the kind of behaviours that draw anger and rage from people, emotions that find their way to these blogs.

    May 27, 2008 11:16 am at 11:16 am |
  5. Rick in Florida

    Some joker wrote "Hillary 08, 12, Chelsea 24, 28".....what delusional thinking, and just shows you how OUT OF TOUCH Hillary's folks are.

    Anyway the Peter Paul v Clintons lawsuit (for FRAUD) is due for trial in CA in November (the Clintons got the judge to delay until after the Nov elections.....funny timing, eh??) but that scandal, and the ones where Bill received funds from foreign governments, are going to DOOM whatever is left of the Clinton "legacy"....and we'll ALL BE GLAD that she's not in the White House (in ANY capacity). Remember Agnew??

    May 27, 2008 11:16 am at 11:16 am |
  6. LA

    "So when you vote for Obama, you'll really be voting for Axelrod. Good Luck!"

    So then by this analogy, a vote for McCain is a vote for Liberman since Liberman has to whisper corrections in his ear all the time.

    Imagine a commander-in-chief that doesn't know the difference between Sunni and Shiite!!

    May 27, 2008 11:16 am at 11:16 am |
  7. Kim

    I wish that they didn't have to protest and that the DNC could rise up and do the right thing...

    What is the right thing? Didn't the DNC ask all the candidates to NOT campaign in Michigan because they (the DNC) was Not going to count their votes / delegates? So all candidates left in the race should share 50 percent of the votes, the other 50 percent is the penalty.(less you want a lawsuit).

    Florida, I am not sure what the arangement was but I would expect it was the same, so split 50 percent.

    ALL IN FAVOR ... (submit comment by saying) I

    May 27, 2008 11:17 am at 11:17 am |
  8. Sean

    Let Obama and his camp discount Florida and Michigan. Hand them over to McCain in the General Election so that McCain can beat him. I'd love to see both states be the ones to hand McCain the Presidency at Obama's expense.

    May 27, 2008 11:17 am at 11:17 am |
  9. Cuacus = Peer pressure fest!

    Have any of you Obama supporters actually listened to the stuff that comes out of your candidates mouth? Anti-americanism wrapped in patriotic gift paper at it's best. Not to mention this man has done nothing in his political career save for showing up to vote present in congress. Do not support this man. Hillary is the only viable candidate to get democrats back in the white house come november. I will not vote democrat with Obama at the top of the ticket.

    May 27, 2008 11:17 am at 11:17 am |
  10. Doris,Memphis, TN

    The Superdelegates are so weak! They are allowing Senator
    Clinton to do everything in her power to destroy the party and
    to try to destroy Obama's chance of winning in the fall. Bill and
    Hill this is going to all backfire on you! The American people
    are not stupid. You two are!

    May 27, 2008 11:17 am at 11:17 am |
  11. Steve

    Clinton KNEW the votes would not be count if FL/MI opened the ballots early. Everyone knew the votes would not count so Obama chose to not spend the $ to get put on the ballot. Clinton thought she would be sneaky. SORRY HILL DOG last thing America needs is another FLAT OUT CHEATER In the white house!

    It sounds like Clinton is working with the same people who ILEAGLY got Bush in the White House twice!

    I wonder how much more America will take before we have another Tea Party!?!?!?!

    May 27, 2008 11:18 am at 11:18 am |
  12. Future-Thought

    Obama supporters are now concerned about delegate numbers. If he gets in, they (the young ones) will someday be concerned about their draft numbers. The military will undergo a huge and unfortunate change under an Obama administration. Re-enlistments will dry up even more than they have under current Democratic negative influence ,and potential new recruits will know that they will have an unworthy Commander in Chief and will therefore not even consider a military career. Yet we will still need a military. The answer? As an option already floated by some Democrats, you can look for a renewed draft. That will be your first taste of freedom under an Obama administration.

    May 27, 2008 11:18 am at 11:18 am |
  13. R.I.F.


    You must for for the clinton camp? "hillary has more electoral votes than mccain"????? Did I miss something? I could've sworn that the GE is not until November. Polls for a GE conducted in May are not all that accurate. Dukakis was leading in the polls and ended up losing 40 states. Also to note, Bill Clinton didn't menition some other polls that show Obama up in swing states including OH, PA, CO, NV, VA, NM. Also every poll in California actually show Obama beating McCain by a wider margin than Clinton and most of them show her losing to McCain in CO, VA, NM. The bottom line is that we can't rely on polls to decide what's going to happen five months from now. A year ago those same polls showed that the matchup would be Clinton versus Rudy Guliani. I guess those polls were accurate.

    May 27, 2008 11:18 am at 11:18 am |
  14. Venus


    Thank you Obama supporters for your counter-pretest!

    Also – It would be great for the voters who did not vote and followed the rules to protest!

    Go Bam! Each day the Clintons are showing us their true color!

    I love it! They can't believe a rookie has beat them! (:

    This story gets better every day! Hillary is still in the primary while Obama is on to the general election!

    May 27, 2008 11:19 am at 11:19 am |
  15. fred

    this is not fair. i am tied of this election. i thought rules are rules. i suppose to vote on FL but i know my vote count so i didn't vote. this is erong. my question to DNC and hillary supporter; how come i played by the rule and my vote is not being counted, instead people that broke the rules, thier vote is going to count.

    May 27, 2008 11:19 am at 11:19 am |
  16. Steve, New York, New York

    Wow, Hillary – your ego knows no bounds, does it?

    You didn't mind these rules back in October (when you were the front-runner). Now you want to change them because you're losing?

    Please, someone get Hillary to a mental hospital, so someone can begin treating her megalomania.

    May 27, 2008 11:19 am at 11:19 am |
  17. Swalker327


    I strongly support Barack - but deep inside of me I want McCain to win just because I want to sit back and watch you idiots when the economy gets worse (and oh by the way it affects you most), oil prices continue to soar and you can't fill your pick-up trucks, your kids will continue to die in Iraq (mostly because they don't go to college and the military is their only hope), Roe v. Wade gets overturned, etc.


    OBAMA O8!!

    OBAMA '08!!

    May 27, 2008 11:19 am at 11:19 am |
  18. Tim Lehman

    I am curious to know more about the background of the "count every vote" controversy. When were the rules made and why? Were the campaigns consulted then? What was their position before the primary season?

    I see (mostly partisan) references to these issues. Could CNN run a reminder article about this that would be fair to both sides?

    May 27, 2008 11:19 am at 11:19 am |
  19. sherrie50

    All you HC haters, please tell me what have you done for humanity and your society. How much have you given as a servant of mankind to make this a better place to live. If you cannot, it probably because you are spending too much time making cruel and mean blogs about the lady. Majority of you do not understand basic politic, so keep your limited understanding of the process and issues to yourself. You come off sounding rather illiterate.

    May 27, 2008 11:19 am at 11:19 am |
  20. SKS in Wisconsin

    I hope both sides remember that ultimately we are on the same side. We must put a democrat in the WhiteHouse so we can minimize the number of Sons, Daughters, Fathers and Mothers that will die in Iraq.

    May 27, 2008 11:19 am at 11:19 am |
  21. Kathy - FLA

    Let's make this perfectly clear. Obama and his campaign have been blocking any solution or compromise to the counting of the Florida and Michigan votes. He is the one disenfranchising 1.7 million voters in Florida. How can anyone say he ran an honest campaign if he doesn't agree to a solution to the problem? This just shows you his true self and what he's really like and indicates what kind of leader he would be. He's a politician just looking out for himself, his position of power and doesn't care about the people of those two states.

    May 27, 2008 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
  22. Xavier, St. Louis, MO

    I don't blame them one bit. This whole fiasco is because Hillary wants to have her way and change the rules that she agreed to follow. Obama supporters are only protesting to make a statement; which is" Play by the Rules!"

    May 27, 2008 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
  23. Chudi

    Oh NO!

    Thanks Hillary! Now you have what you have wished for. Hillary you will never be President of this country! You make the WORD DIVISIVE look HOLY. Mark my words never will you win the Presidency, and history will debate your legacy for your supporters to get to know the real you that is DIVISIVE and that is the TRUTH! You may run but will never WIN.

    And for the last time folks, I am MAD at people here saying Obama supporters are vile, get some brains it has been the REPUBLICANS doing it, of course we have some Obama supporters saying bad words but only rarely when Hillary does something so EVIL that boils their blood. So get a LIFE and go vote for McCain like you have always wished for. You know you want to vote for MAC because you are closet racists that never could stand a BLACK man being POTUS. Well get used to it because WE ARE A NEW GENERATION OF AMERICANS and we declare OUR FUTURE WILL NOT BE WRITTEN FOR US BUT BY US! Good grief get a life you OLD PEOPLE. And yes I'm WHITE.

    And we dare you to meet us in D.C! Just try us, test us and see if this new generation is serious or not. Get ready to have your butt spanked for real you crazy feminist bigoted hate filled vile Hillary supporters.

    May 27, 2008 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
  24. Pat M

    If America would vote like every other Nation this problem would never exist! Why can't they pick an election date, have Americans vote for their favourite Candidate, count the votes and announce the winner – Like every other Nation world wide!

    This is total insanity! Every election in America seems to generate a voting problem of some description. Bush's election was Florida and the Chads! The system is what's igniting hatred, division, suspicion, and racism! Isn't it time to to employ a new system? One that is uncomplicated, user friendly, and fair to all candidates and citizens alike!

    May 27, 2008 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
  25. Kaci

    People reacting with their emotions. RULES, People, RULES. Obama didn't make the rules, and so far he is the only wone following them. How in creation are you blaming him for the Florida and Michigan debacle? Either you are stupid or you don't read. Yes, great lesson for our American children (and adults with no intergrity). "I agreed to the rules a year ago, everybody understood the consequences of holding the primaries early, but no wthat it doesn't suit me, or I'm losing, let's just toss out the rules. " You are really stupid if you think that this kind of stuff doesn't hurt our democracy. Of coursee, this country has a history of changing the rules on particular groups when it doesn't suit their power-hungry needs. Hate and racism is an ugly sore we just can't seem to rid this country of.

    May 27, 2008 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
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