May 27th, 2008
10:25 AM ET
14 years ago

Obama supporters planning DNC counter-protest

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="Both Clinton and Obama supporters are planning to protest outside Saturday's RBC meeting in Washington."] WASHINGTON (CNN) - Supporters of Barack Obama’s presidential bid are planning to demonstrate outside the Saturday meeting in Washington where Democratic officials are slated to debate the seating of the Florida and Michigan delegations at the party’s summer convention.

The move comes days after backers of Hillary Clinton’s White House run announced plans to converge on the Washington, D.C. hotel where members of the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee are meeting.

“Hillary Clinton's supporters are going to be bussing in protestors for the Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting, so it's critical that we show up for the counter-protest,” wrote on organizer in a post on the Daily Kos Web site Tuesday morning.

Last week, the pro-Clinton Committee to Count Every Vote said it was organizing a day-long May 31 rally outside the RBC meeting.

“Our purpose is not to divide the party or attack the DNC or Senator Obama. Michigan and Florida, however, in addition to Hillary's strong support nationwide, cannot and must not be dismissed in DNC efforts to unify the party.”

The group said it was organizing buses to carry protestors to the meeting site, and could offer some overnight housing for those who could not afford to pay for accommodations.

Earlier this month, Clinton told a group of bloggers who support her candidacy that she encouraged efforts to lobby the committee.

“I thank you for zeroing in on the May 31 meeting. There will be a lot of activity around that meeting,” she said on a conference call, adding that it was “important your voices are heard” by DNC members.

A limited number of seats inside Saturday’s meeting were scheduled to be made available by the DNC at 10 a.m. ET Tuesday – but as of 10 minutes after the hour, all those seats had been claimed. Limited same-day registration will be available as space permits, according to the party’s Web site.

Those who make it inside will have to abide by strict guidelines banning “banners, posters, signs, handouts, and noisemakers of any kind” – and they won’t have a chance to weigh in, since there is no allowance for public comment.

Clinton’s campaign has pushed for both the Florida and Michigan delegations to be seated in full in accordance with the results of their January primaries, which were not sanctioned by the DNC because they were scheduled early in defiance of party instructions. Clinton was the only major candidate to appear on the ballot in Michigan, and won both contests.

The DNC, state Democratic parties and both presidential campaigns have said that they are eager for a compromise that would allow both Florida and Michigan to send delegations to the party’s nominating convention in Denver – but all sides stress that the solution would have to be acceptable to both campaigns.

Obama senior adviser David Axelrod signaled in an interview last week that the Illinois senator might be willing to consider a compromise that would give a slight advantage to Clinton.

Filed under: Candidate Barack Obama • Florida • Hillary Clinton • Michigan
soundoff (530 Responses)
  1. OGirl

    Mob rule! Let's see who can get more people to the Protest. Chicago 68 Rules. Now we'll see if Obama really believes in civil rights for minorities – does he support counting ALL the votes. Let's see if Obama really believes in CHANGE – if the rules are bad and disenfranchise a minority of voters, change the rules!

    May 27, 2008 11:27 am at 11:27 am |
  2. Clair

    This is TOTALLY different from the 2000 vote! We are a country founded on LAW (i.e. "rules") Imagine if Gore had tried to contest the Presidency based on having won the popular vote? Gore won the popular vote, but it didn't mean he could change the rules! He
    graciously asked his supporters to accept the court's election decision. Clinton is getting away with saying the votes in MI and FL should count when that's not what she agreed to and said at the time of the vote:
    "It's clear," said Clinton, "this election [Michigan is] having is not going to count for anything. I personally did not think it made any difference
    whether or not my name was on the ballot." VS what she's saying now: “The lesson is if you can discern the clear intent of the voter, why would you punish the voter?” How DIVISIVE! Does Hillary ACTUALLY think that giving Obama ZERO votes from MI represents the
    true "intent of the voter"? If the DNC allows half the delegates to count, she'll still claim all votes should count towards the popular vote, while saying the popular vote from the caucus states should NOT count! So 238,168 in MI who voted for "uncommitted" b/c Obama wasn't on the ballot shouldn't be counted? Yeah, right! Puerto Ricans, can't even vote in the general election, but she's pandering to them to run
    up the popular vote. The current DNC rules ALL candidates agreed to say that it's the most delegates that win the primary NOT the popular vote, but because she can't win by the rules she agreed to, she wants to change the rules! Would our Forefathers have approved?

    May 27, 2008 11:27 am at 11:27 am |
  3. Sheila

    Well I see how delusional the Clinton supporters are, she has rubbed off on them. How in the heck is it Senator Obama fault that Florida and Michigan did not follow the rules like the other 48 states did. The other 48 states followed the rule and now Clinton and her supporters want to get rewarded for breaking the rules. Florida should have known better , they messed up the last election and that's how Bush got in and now they want to blame everyone else because they let their Republican Governor move the date of the primaries that got them in this mess in the first place. I have no problem with the delegates being seated at the convention, but not give them the advantage of selecting who will be president because they did not follow the rule and all the other 48 states that did, should protest if they try to give them all their votes. The next time, FOLLOW THE RULES. Hillary Clinton will never be President of this country, not after what how she ran her campaign this year. If the Clinton's and their supporters try to steal the nomination from Obama and try to mess up the general election, there will be hell to pay for the DNC.

    May 27, 2008 11:27 am at 11:27 am |
  4. TWaid

    We must count Florida and Michigan. It won't change the primary outcome, but if we do not count them it could change the outcome in November.

    May 27, 2008 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  5. fletc3her

    Calls to count all the "votes" are insulting to those of us in caucus states. I don't see why my participation in the Washington State caucuses should be disenfranchised. We had record setting numbers in the caucuses this year. And not a single one of us "voted". The Democratic Primary is decided by delegates, not by votes.

    Our current President lost the popular vote to Al Gore. The Supreme Court allowed Florida to send a slate of electors which allowed Bush to win in the electoral college. The rules were changed mid election and the country has been paying for it for eight years. I cannot support Clinton's calls to change the rules of the primary mid election.

    May 27, 2008 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  6. Obama 08

    GB, Your so full of it. Get a life.
    Hillary wasn't even thinking about Mich anf Fla until she needed them. Are you that simple-minded?

    May 27, 2008 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  7. FloridaVoter

    The rules, are the rules.

    May 27, 2008 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  8. HOMEOWNER In Florida


    May 27, 2008 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  9. Pol

    And THIS you would like to implement in other countries? Good example for them. One hundred million $ devil (or deviless) is terrorizing a whole country – USA.

    May 27, 2008 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  10. jc

    Hey EC, the election isn't until November – calm down – why shouldn't every Hillary supporter (and there are millions) (even more than Obama) why shouldn't we get the same respect as you and the rest of Obama's supporters. Since when did you ever quit a race before you reached the finish line? Please don't insult everyone's intelligence. You want to be a supporter – be a supporter but don't throw around hatred – that's par for you Obama supporters so full of hate.

    May 27, 2008 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  11. Jason

    You know, I don't understand why the Clinton and Obama supporters are mouthing off at each other. It's about time this case of "who shot John" comes to an end. I'm getting sick and tired (especially Obama Supporters) literally thrashing Clinton. If the Democrats are going to have any chance at winning, they have to respect each other and respect each other's decision for who they think can best run this country! To supporters of Obama, yes, Clinton probably can't win the nomination, but get that thumb out of your mouths and start respecting both candidates for their hard work throughout this primary and caucus season. Both Obama and Clinton have made gaffes, but they're tired and exausted give them a break. In addition, to the people who are for Obama, don't hate somebody else just because they have a different opinion than Obama does. I'm Democrat and I like Obama, but I also like Hillary, they're DEMOCRATS! I believe that whoever is the Nominee will win in November.

    If the Democrats want to win November, start respecting one another, don't hate one another, it doesn't only seperate the party, it devides the country everyone has a voice and a RIGHT to disagree last time I checked!

    May 27, 2008 11:28 am at 11:28 am |

    Obama's been blocking unfair solutions that no doubt would favor Hillary. She would not be generious to him to give him an advantage. For example she perposed she gets her votes from MI as per Jan primary and Obama gets 0,because his name was not on the ballot. Fl to be seated as is without any penalty. How could Obama agree to that. It was the states constitutions I think that disallowed a revote.

    May 27, 2008 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  13. Mike, Syracuse NY

    Given the major league Democratic whining in FL in 2000 over the hanging chads, if they don't count every vote, the Dems are hypocrits without parallel. There used to be 'rules' against women and blacks voting. Guess what, we changed them. Rules that disenfranchise voters are inherantly undemocratic and need to be changed, or we should stop calling ourselves a democracy. By the way, what's the deal with superdelegates. I guess the Democrats don't trust the voters to make intelligent decisions.

    May 27, 2008 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  14. joel

    With all the facts on the table it is frightening how delusional these so called Hillary supporters are. She has repeatedly LIED and had used FEAR tactics reminiscent of one very bad president we need not mention. To so blindly support someone and completely ignore the FACTS is unimaginable to me. Especially after the last 8 years. My only hopeful conclusion is they are really Republicans fearing how badly Obama will crush their candidate come fall. Certainly not true, honesty loving Democrats

    May 27, 2008 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
  15. David

    It's clear from reading through these comments that the majority of Obama supporters appear to be much younger, based on their word choices.

    While this means energy and enthusiasm for the Obama campaign, it means disaster for the Democratic party at large. Why? Because youngin's simply don't make it out to the polls in the numbers of older Americans. I'm not going to speculate as to why, but look at election history and run the numbers for yourself.

    If Americans want a democrat in the White House next January, they'd better start getting behind Clinton in a big way. Obama's support base is notorious for not showing up at the polls when it's needed; Clinton's base is reliable and proven.

    Obama will make an ideal VP this time, and an ideal presidential candidate once Clinton terms out. After all, he's been an elected official for, what, three years? Let's give him time to become a powerful leader, and then let's put that talent to work. In the meantime, let's stop handing elections to the republicans because we're too dense to see the obvious way to victory.

    May 27, 2008 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
  16. Posn

    My son lives in Fla, when the primaries were going on in that state I ask him if he planned to vote. He stated that it would not count so he would save his vote for the general election. A lot of voters in that state understood that their vote would not be counted and they chose not to go to the polls. So where in lies the problem?

    May 27, 2008 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
  17. maksim tsionskiy

    Dan in florida, you have no brain, or what?
    what you blaming barack for not counting FL. why don't you blame republican florida congress and Governor Christ, they once who did that. If you vote Mccain then you voting for bush. That actually would be like if you voting against Clinton anyway, because her policies opposite to bush. Please if you not going to vote for barrack in november don't vote at all, we don't need MCBUSh for another 4 years.

    May 27, 2008 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
  18. Kathleen

    I am so sick of hearing "they broke the rules....doesn't Hillary want to follow the rules...the rules....the rules..." What nonsense. Several other states also voted before they were supposed to and suffered no consequences. And if you actually READ "the rules" you will find that for whatever reason the DNC chose to impose their own new version of the actual rule that states if they vote early they will only get HALF their delegates seated – that is the way the rule is written, but the DNC chose to take it further and impose the most disenfranchising punishment they could. The votes in Florida and Michigan were certified and should stand as voted. Obama chose to take his name off the Michigan ballot so he should forfeit any votes or delegates. Period.

    May 27, 2008 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
  19. SC Gal

    The only reason Obama doesn 't want a resolution to Florida and Michigan is because he would lose his delegate lead and the popular vote.

    Tell me that you would want a President that stands up for the government and not the people.

    Isn't that what he preaches in his sermons?

    May 27, 2008 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
  20. Jan from Boca Raton, Fla

    If the situation were reversed and Obama was standing in Clinton's shoes, he would be whinning like a baby. He didn't want a re-count in Fla and Mi because he knew he would loose. Neither campaigned
    in Fla and Obama decided to take his name off in Mi, because he knew he would loose that state.

    His campaign would be screaming the race card if he wanted a RE-COUNT and the DNC refused.

    Let every vote count and see who the American want as President.
    The people have a right to choose.

    May 27, 2008 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
  21. Susan MO

    It is good that both sides see that Florida & Michigan should get to vote.

    It is only fair to the people of these states.

    May 27, 2008 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
  22. goofus

    How do sign up for this WWF event?

    May 27, 2008 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
  23. Jill in Chicago

    Obama maniacs have been slamming the Clintons way before the Iowa primary. Interesting to me that all of the "billary haters" have ramped up their viciousness and funnelled it towards their fellow democrats "hillary supporters." My disgust will remain, my lowest moment of feeling anything but despair as a member of the democratic party.

    May 27, 2008 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
  24. joe m

    what a mess!

    May 27, 2008 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
  25. wdc

    Well it is about time. someone actually stood up against the clintons, to them all rules are changable and view points flip flop at their conveience. Obama has had a terrific campaign, hope he does not ruin it by adding the immoral clinton.

    May 27, 2008 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
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