May 31st, 2008
07:23 PM ET
12 years ago

Full Michigan delegation with half-vote to be seated by Dems

WASHINGTON (CNN) - The Democratic National Committee's Rules and Bylaws
Committee on Saturday voted to seat all Michigan delegates to its convention, giving each a half-vote and dividing them to give Hillary Clinton a slight edge over Barack Obama.

The 19-8 vote gives 69 pledged delegates to Clinton and 59 to frontrunner Obama - each with half a vote because Michigan was penalized, like Florida, for moving its primary ahead in the campaign season.

Clinton adviser and RBC member Harold Ickes said, "Mrs. Clinton has instructed me to reserve her rights to take this to the Credentials Committee."


Filed under: DNC • Michigan
soundoff (760 Responses)
  1. mjaber

    Sounds and looks fair to me. Clinton voters, you got more than your fair share so be happy and close your mouths.
    Obama '08

    May 31, 2008 10:00 pm at 10:00 pm |
  2. CMR

    I find it interesting that in the 2 hours since this decision was made, CNN hasn't posted a single comment readers have submitted regarding this decision. I suppose when they do post comments, they'll also close the article for comments.

    May 31, 2008 10:00 pm at 10:00 pm |
  3. ExDem

    This, today, was a farce! The people in Florida and Michigan are really no better off today than yesterday. This so called Unity they speak of is not going to happen...How is it fair to give Obama ANY votes in Michigan when he voluntarily took his name off the ballot! They went along with Obama's supposed plan for Florida when Hillary had a very decisive win. They gave him everything that he wanted. What would Obama have to fear to allow all the voters to be heard and all the delegates to be seated 100%???? Well, instead of doing the RIGHT thing, the DNC made the WRONG choice and if they think that there will be unity they are sadly mistaken! Myself, and my whole family will cross the party lines and vote for McCain in the fall. I do not want to be affiliated with any party that will disenfranchise voters the way the DNC did today!

    May 31, 2008 10:00 pm at 10:00 pm |
  4. Tina

    Unbelieveable. What about the voters that didn't come out and vote because they didn't think their votes would count. Personally, I don't think any of the delegates should have been seated. They are lucky and should be happy they are getting anything after breaking the rules. forty-eight states abided by the rules and michigan and florida didn't!!

    May 31, 2008 10:00 pm at 10:00 pm |
  5. Kay

    Happy to have this resolved. Neither side was going to get everything that they wanted, but a compromise was reached, and it is time to move on.

    May 31, 2008 10:00 pm at 10:00 pm |
  6. Florida democrat

    It is ridiculous to hear Ickes talk about 'uniting the party' when less than 20 seconds later he states that Clinton reserves the right to appeal this vote. Do the Clinton supporters really expect the party would unite behind her after all of the crap she has done to be so divisive. Because of rain, I would have preferred to be outside, I watched most of the hearing and Clinton's representatives were the most divisive of the bunch.

    Let us forget about this ugly part of the process and move on to unite the party for November. I just hope everyone has learned their lessons and this will not happen again.

    May 31, 2008 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm |
  7. mary griffin

    i'm glad to see the dnc was fair.

    May 31, 2008 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm |
  8. Dana

    Oh for crying out loud

    May 31, 2008 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm |
  9. Rinie Pijnenburg

    It is good there is an agreement at last.
    Harold Ickes don't like it and react as a spoiled child.
    If he speaks for Sen Clinton she can better stay at Puerto Rico.
    VP is no option anymore for her.
    She harms the party too much with her egocentric behaviour.

    May 31, 2008 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm |
  10. Vahe Vanesyan (Toronto, Canada)

    Just a reminder for you and all the readers!!!

    At last year's DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting, Ickes was one of several Clinton supporters to vote to not recognize any delegates from either Florida or Michigan because the two states were about to violate party rules and hold their contests early. He has since changed his position on the matter.

    May 31, 2008 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm |
  11. Kevin

    Clinton will do or say ANYTHING. Do we really want someone in the White House who will change the rules just to suit her needs? Haven't we just had 8 years of just that with Bush? If her actions damage the party's chances for a November victory, I hope her behavior, her negativity, her attempts to change the rules, will all be remembered. With any luck her career will be over.

    May 31, 2008 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm |
  12. Jean Jolicoeur (Florida)

    I can't understand how Clinton and her supporters thought that even after breaking the rules of the Democratic National Committee they entitled to full delegation from Michigan and Florida like if they did nothing wrong. That is completely absurd. Clinton herself said of the primaries in Michigan and Florida that they wouldn't count; but that was before when she was the inevitable candidate. Now, when she finds herself on the looser row, she starts advocating for the delegates in both states. That is complete lack of honesty and it says a lot about her integrity.

    Now she wants to be handed the nomination even after she fails to win either the popular vote and majority of delegates.

    May 31, 2008 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm |
  13. Greg

    sore loser.
    Clinton is the enemy # 1 of the Democratic Party.

    May 31, 2008 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm |
  14. KRD

    I am glad to see that the Rules and Bylaws Committee resolved this issue. It is unfortunate that there are folks out there that will be upset with the DNC. The fact is that rules are in place for a reason, if one doesn't follow the rules, then there should be a price to pay. This is the lesson that we need to teach our kids and I'm happy that the DNC recognized this important point.
    I hope that we Democrats can put this ordeal behind us and turn our focus towards winning the Presidency in the fall.

    May 31, 2008 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm |
  15. Diane Spencer

    The end of HC era.

    May 31, 2008 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm |
  16. Roberson in Georgia

    Sen. Clinton said that she wanted the votes to count in Michigan and Florida in order to not disenfranchise the voters. Now each state has been given half their votes. Unfortunately, that is not good enough for Sen. Clinton. She wants all the Michigan votes to go to her.

    Well, I guess the Michigan and Florida voters see that Sen. Clinton only wanted the votes to further her campaign. Disenfranchising the voters of Michigan and Florida are not her concern anymore.

    The women supporters who are upset by the Michigan ruling and saying that the DRC only made the decision against Sen. Clinton because she is a woman. I am a woman and you do not speak for me. You are disgracing all women by that argument. True we work hard and want our Fair Share. Notice I said Fair Share. You women makes it seems that all women advocate breaking the rules in order to get what we want. Well, we honest, proud women believes in abiding by the established rules.

    Michigan and Florida broke the ru

    May 31, 2008 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm |
  17. Sam

    Please give it up.He was so disrepectfully when things don't go your way that's the way too handle it,Hillary Clinton thats who who sent to represent you.That's say's alot about you..................

    May 31, 2008 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm |
  18. bob toano

    Lanny Davis, Mark Penn, Paul Begala,Dick Morris, Harold Ickes, What do all these political operatives have in common. They worked in the Bill Clinton campaigns for President , and with the exception of Morris they all have worked in the Hillary campaign (though Carville and Begala aren't paid they are certainly surrogates for Hillary). It is a different environment. The sleaze of the Clinton campaign has surfaced it's ugly head again today under the name of Harold Ickes.
    Even that arrogant SOB has lost some of his ability to intimidate.
    Today it became apparent the Clintons no longer run the Democratic party. They can either get on board or get out of the way. Their character will be revealed by how they handle these setbacks.

    May 31, 2008 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm |
  19. Kelly

    I am glad that a decision was made , now let us move on to beating McCain in the election.

    May 31, 2008 10:07 pm at 10:07 pm |
  20. Kim

    Ickes had a legit point, Obama should have recieved zero in Michigan
    Hillary's should have been halved as was, But Hillary can't win and should step aside for unity

    May 31, 2008 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm |
  21. aware

    The foolish Dems have anointed the fatally flawed far left fringe candidate. They had the opportunity to choose the best and fell in love with the worst! 😦

    No unity for the Dems – on to Denver!

    May 31, 2008 10:10 pm at 10:10 pm |
  22. Julius

    Thanks for resolution!!! I hope Hillary will now drop all of the pretense and contentious and become a team player

    May 31, 2008 10:11 pm at 10:11 pm |
  23. Maggie

    Although I'm a Republican, I am soooo sorry for the Michigan and Florida voters. Whoever were the TWITS that changed their states' voting schedules should be, "run out of town on a rail!!!"
    The voters turned out, in some cases, in record numbers, in this most important race, and now--mess!!!!

    May 31, 2008 10:11 pm at 10:11 pm |
  24. Sue Z

    I agree with the decision, though I worry it will only make Hillary supporters angry and will give her motivation to drag this out longer. Perhaps the committee should have imposed the 50% penalty, but only seated Hillary's Michigan votes. Obama would still be ahead and would still likely win the race, but Hillary's supporters wouldn't have as much to complain about.

    May 31, 2008 10:11 pm at 10:11 pm |
  25. Mose

    i think its a fair situation. Lets get started before the convention.
    Go OBAMA.

    May 31, 2008 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm |
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