May 31st, 2008
10:36 AM ET
13 years ago

Herman: Full reinstatement not on the table

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="Democratic National Committee member Alexis Herman."]
WASHINGTON (CNN) - Alexis Herman, co-chair of the DNC's Rules and Bylaws Committee, made clear on Saturday that the 50 percent compromise –- which would reduce the delegate strength of both Michigan and Florida by half, and allow those that remain to be seated at the Democratic convention -– was on the table.

The national party stripped both states of all their delegates last year -– but the automatic penalty only required that these delegations be reduced by half.

The former Clinton cabinet official stressed that a full reinstatement wasn’t up for debate by the RBC, saying both states knew before they moved up their primary dates that there would be severe consequences for violating party rules -– and that the penalty had worked as intended, since no other contests were scheduled for January beyond the two unauthorized votes and the four sanctioned by the party.

"We had many states that wanted to violate the timing. We needed to send a very strong signal in order to prevent additional states from moving forward,” Herman said in her opening remarks.

Filed under: Candidate Barack Obama • DNC • Florida • Hillary Clinton • Michigan
soundoff (98 Responses)
  1. Junebug

    The rules committee are a bunch of jerks.

    Seat all the delegates. Stop being worried about Obama.

    Hillary all the way..........................08.................................

    May 31, 2008 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm |
  2. Michiel W

    The DNC is cutting it's own throat with their mess with regard to Florida and Michigan. The Michigan party chair has just presented his logic for dividing the delegates from his state. What a bunch of crap. He basically is saying that the votes cast should not be used, but exit polls should be used along with how he has devined what the write in ballots were, since they do not know what the write in ballots contained. This is the most obsurd argument I have heard yet! Just another example of the DNC trying to push forward one candidate over another and at least some of the committee seem to think so also. The DNC had better start thinking about the November election, about the person most likely to beat John McCain, and stop trying to rig this in favor of one candidate. If the votes that have been cast are not counted as they were cast, there will be a lot of disgruntled people NOT voting in November. The DNC had better think long and hard about changing the way they elect a candidate in the future. And by the way, since Senator Obama took his name off the ballot in Michigan, why should he be awarded any delegates? After all, rules are rules, according to his supporters, aren't they? I guess only some rules apply. I think the Superdelegates had better do some real thinking about November before a final candidate is chossen. Too many moderates will have a hard time supporting a candidate who is deemed to have as many questionable ties as the Senator from Illinois.

    May 31, 2008 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm |
  3. DannyCali

    Right to vote right to count because every one pay the taxes. If not count
    Florida and Michigan now DO NOT let them vote in general election too.

    May 31, 2008 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
  4. Absolutely fed up

    Full reinstatement not on the table.? Now listen to the debate. Mrs. Clinton wants all the votes to count, EXCEPT those that are not for her. The rules were established and accepted by Mrs. Clinton, now RESPECT them. I do not want a president who lies through her teeth. None of the delegates in FL and MI should be seated.

    May 31, 2008 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
  5. Enlightened Voter

    They should be punished, they broke the rules. We all should follow the rules unless of course your the clintons who want rules bent or pushed aside in their favor.

    May 31, 2008 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
  6. Liked Hillary once

    50/50 and get on with it.

    May 31, 2008 01:10 pm at 1:10 pm |
  7. Dr. Vida Scarpello

    I am an independent voter, a woman, and a Floridian. As a single parent of two successful adults, and a retired university professor, I ask: "What kind of message are Clinton's women supporters sending to their children–break the rules and then act as though you are a victim?" I'm sad that Clinton places her power needs above the needs of this country's citizens. We really need change in Washington. Obama is the only person I will vote for. I trust that he will choose a VP who will complement him and be an independent and credible voice for this country and its people.

    May 31, 2008 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |
  8. New Day

    It aint looking good for Hill-dawg. One question, though: why is Ickeys opening his mouth? Every time he does, the person he is questioning, makes him look like an idiot.

    May 31, 2008 01:14 pm at 1:14 pm |
  9. Ken

    In my opinion, ALL of the Delegates should be seated and counted as the voters intended.

    What are they afraid of? Barack Hussein Obama CANNOT beat McCain in November, so I would hope that if the Democrat Party wants to take back the White House, then they need to give the nominee to Hillary Clinton, for she is the one that CAN beat McCain in November, and take back the White House.

    Hillary Clinton 2008

    May 31, 2008 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  10. Gaylon

    GOES TO SHOW YOU HOW STUPID HERMAN IS AND WHAT COLOR WILL DO. The fault of FL's. early voting is with the Florida Rpublican Legislation and the people should not be punished. You People, and i mean you Herman a person of color only wantObama and for Hillary to have no chance at all. IT WILL NOT WORK TO UNIFY. SO DON'T ASK IF YOU GET YOU WAY.

    May 31, 2008 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  11. deana

    Obama should leave the Democratic Party if he is not selected as the nominee!

    May 31, 2008 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  12. Dave

    CNN- No wonder your network is losing ground to the other networks. Biased reporting. Hillary must have some pull with your network, there really isn't any other reason for you lack of objectivity. So sad.

    May 31, 2008 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  13. Rave

    Did you also rule and make it clear to Hillary that she should go home and never appear in this race again. She is nothing but damage to the Democratic party

    May 31, 2008 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  14. Evy, Broward County, Florida

    I understand the punishment. But the decision to move the primaries to a date that caused the penalty was done my the republicans which out voted the democrats. Should the people be penalized for the republicans? I think not! It is a disgrace what this country claims, freedome for all. I don't think the the people that voted feel this is just. OUR VOTES ALL SHOULD COUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    May 31, 2008 01:35 pm at 1:35 pm |
  15. Raymond Duke

    Who do these elites think they are to say or tell what states should go first and then penalize them if they don't follow their rules. I don't belong to them and I didn't elect them for my state representative. A state should hold it's election by asking the people to vote on the date it wants to hold them. If either party doesn't like it and wants to play these political games it is simple , have a special recall election , recall them and put some indepedents on the ballot that represents the state instead of the party. If that don't work ,vote the party who played that game out of office and put in the opposing party. Heck we survived eight lousy years what is two or six years more to get rid of these tactic's . I guarrantee you that if you stand up to these professional politicians and they see them kush jobs going away, they will fold.

    May 31, 2008 01:40 pm at 1:40 pm |
  16. Oregon

    Zero delegates is what Florida and Michigan should get. To count any of their delegates would be to cheat the other 48 states who played by the rules.

    May 31, 2008 01:47 pm at 1:47 pm |
  17. justobserve

    Yes, Ickes: How do you define "Voters reflection in a FLAWED primary"? Unless you knew the well-known candidate, Clinton, got more votes whethere there were campaigns or not and now take advantage of it. if it is not Clinton, the Rules Committee wouldn't have sitting today. Get over it Ickes, you want disunity by arguing for a normal primary where there was none?

    May 31, 2008 01:48 pm at 1:48 pm |
  18. Haneefah of Georgia

    I certainly pray that you-all will get this selection over with and move on to the General Election; because it is taking so long, Senator McCain is pulling ahead without contest. Please stop the Clinton Division and Striff. The Clintons and the Clinton Campaign are destroyers. Not just of America but the Democratic Party and Democrats in America. The Republicans are loving this and want it to go on past the Convention. Please get it together. I myself and my family members already will not vote in November if Clinton is the nominee. With just my family on my side not my husbands there are 1800 of us that are registered voters. There are more on my husbands.I believe more than 5000.

    May 31, 2008 01:50 pm at 1:50 pm |
  19. b

    Please count the votes!

    May 31, 2008 01:50 pm at 1:50 pm |
  20. Margareth-FL

    it is so unfair for Obama I am pray for Obama

    May 31, 2008 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
  21. Noemi

    You will see a voter back lash against the DNC and Presidential election come November – DNC has violated our fundamental right to vote, if Barak did not campaign or had his name in the ballot is irrevalent. The voters voted and that is what counts there is nothing more to say. Dean you will lose Florida and MI come November.

    May 31, 2008 01:58 pm at 1:58 pm |
  22. Kingsley Orji from Oyigbo rivers state Nigeria

    Way to go! stand by the rules. I support ya.

    May 31, 2008 02:09 pm at 2:09 pm |
  23. will

    If we can not have Hillary lets all who support her stay home in november or vote for McCain. Lets also change this country and start new vote out all incumnates. We need fresh blood in washington

    May 31, 2008 02:11 pm at 2:11 pm |
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