May 31st, 2008
10:36 AM ET
12 years ago

Herman: Full reinstatement not on the table

Democratic National Committee member Alexis Herman.

Democratic National Committee member Alexis Herman.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - Alexis Herman, co-chair of the DNC's Rules and Bylaws Committee, made clear on Saturday that the 50 percent compromise –- which would reduce the delegate strength of both Michigan and Florida by half, and allow those that remain to be seated at the Democratic convention -– was on the table.

The national party stripped both states of all their delegates last year -– but the automatic penalty only required that these delegations be reduced by half.

The former Clinton cabinet official stressed that a full reinstatement wasn’t up for debate by the RBC, saying both states knew before they moved up their primary dates that there would be severe consequences for violating party rules -– and that the penalty had worked as intended, since no other contests were scheduled for January beyond the two unauthorized votes and the four sanctioned by the party.

"We had many states that wanted to violate the timing. We needed to send a very strong signal in order to prevent additional states from moving forward,” Herman said in her opening remarks.


Filed under: Candidate Barack Obama • DNC • Florida • Hillary Clinton • Michigan
soundoff (98 Responses)
  1. The Truth

    LETS THROW OUT ALL THE RULES EVERYWHERE……..

    * No more traffic lights…..
    * You can cheat on you neighbors paper….
    * No more nine innings play until YOU win….
    * Forget about the Geneva convention rules……
    * Get your high school diploma after your freshman year….
    * Commit a crime and you dont go to jail………
    * Lose an election and cheat and lie and destroy your party……..

    OBAMA: THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!!!!!!

    May 31, 2008 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
  2. Justin

    Well Hillary,

    As the Bible states, "No weapon formed against us shall prosper." Join us at the Convention in restoring the Democratic Party to prominence and take your rightful place as Senator from NY

    OBAMA 08

    May 31, 2008 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
  3. Lindsay

    This is all going to end in very bad taste and the whole process is going to make the USA look even worse than ever.

    The DNC will pander to HRC as most of those "high up" in the DNC did not expect or want Obama to be the nominee. At the time, no one was worried 'cos HRC was ahead. Now those in power in the DNC see the FL and MI case(s) as one last chance to help HRC over the top, which is what was "planned" and "expected" all along – her being the nominee that is.

    Somehow, HRC is going to be "given" the nomination in spite of being beaten and it'll all be made to look "right" and "legal" following a new interpretation of the "rules".

    Obama is the USA's best hope to move forward and from the brink of falling into a very dark period but he'll be ousted by the more "powerful" and the world will look on and groan and laugh (maybe) and loose even more respect for a once all-powerful nation.

    Oh how the mighty fall. Not just Clinton, McCain, Obama but the USA as a whole.

    Sad, but the whole world still looks on with a little hope and faith.

    May 31, 2008 11:33 am at 11:33 am |
  4. Laidetea

    The rules should be imply as it stands. All campaign party's knew the rules and signed documents with full knowlege of the consequences. Obama obieded by the rules whether he was winning or losing. Obama didn'change the goal post. Hillary Clinton has tried all kinds of tricks to put herself in the lead since Feb 5th. She has lost this race fair and sqaure. No one didn't treat her any kind of way. She brought this on herself and so did Bill. Hillary Clinton ran a horrible campaign, plain and simple.

    Obama is the true victor in the race. Let him proceed on the next level. Please....DNC .

    May 31, 2008 11:33 am at 11:33 am |
  5. GERALD STROTHER

    ALL OVER 3 MORE DAYS GO OBAMA WIth a +206 lead !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    May 31, 2008 11:33 am at 11:33 am |
  6. David

    The delegates from Michigan and Florida should be seated – there is no doubt about that. However, this should be done in a way that does not alter or jeopordize the results of the whole process. So, you agree to the set rules of the competition. At the beggining it is all OK. When you sense the your nomination is in danger, you want to bend the same rules that you sign so that the nomination is delivered to you in a sliver plate – that is not the america I know and that is not how Washington should be run. In the white we need to see more transparency, truth, trust and accountability.Hilary should also respect the rules and those that did not vote.

    Hilary Clinton proposal is mean, calculating and clearly is intended to used by the campaign to legitimize the argument that she better electable, got the popular votes and should be the nominee. If Obama campaigned in FLorida and Michigan, these figures would not as-is, just think PA, he was 25 points before campaign, later 9.3 points down after campaign, Texas 20 points before campaign and 3.6 points down after the campaign.

    Hilary Clinton proposal is selfish and indicates how obsessed she is with the nomination – as much as people respect her spirit of fighting back, this is an example of exploiting a situation to her advantage. Clintons wants this nomination whatsoever, sad. It is not about Hilary becoming the president, but about the Democratic taking over the whites and working to get this country back on her feet in November. I wonder what has become of the Clintons

    May 31, 2008 11:34 am at 11:34 am |
  7. Attorney in Florida

    We've been punished enough! The Dem party will suffer greatly in November if they don't seat our delegations in FULL. So let them shoot themselves in the foot. I'll be right here in the Fall to say: "I told you so".

    May 31, 2008 11:34 am at 11:34 am |
  8. Chris In California

    I love Bill Nelson and Arthenia Joyner – what TREMENDOUS ADVOCATES OF THE PEOPLE!

    COUNT THE VOTES OF THE VOTERS OF FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN!

    The WILL OF THE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS in this country is for Hillary Clinton to be our Party's nominee. She has received the MOST VOTES of THE PEOPLE of this nation.

    Hillary Clinton is our nominee!

    May 31, 2008 11:34 am at 11:34 am |
  9. Ed

    One national primary is what we need. Not honoring the results in Michigan and Florida is a slap in the face of all Democrats, and Americans for that matter, not just those voting in the two states. I am now searchng for a candidate to vote for. It won't be Obama, it can't be McClain. I can't believe that for the first presidential election since I turned 21, that's 10 now, I might be staying home. My own little silent protest.

    May 31, 2008 11:35 am at 11:35 am |
  10. Go Obama

    This big deal is mainly caused by Clinton. She is going to put the Democratic party down the tubes. Stirring the pot, causing people to take sides Dem vs Rep. because she had to make a huge issue.

    She agreed with everyone that votes were not going to be counted and that they were not going to campaign in those states then turns around and does the opposite. She plays whatever card suits her to win and twisting the rules around. She says she won and has the popular vote yet Obama never campaigned in those states nor had his name on ballot in Michigan. You cannot CLAIM something that was not fairly done to begin with.

    Hillary is really tearing up the party and I wont put it past her to start more stuff after she is told to step down and shut up. She will do something to ruin it for all Democrats.

    May 31, 2008 11:36 am at 11:36 am |
  11. Peter RePeat

    Herman can say what she wants, but the Democrats are violating a few dozen civil rights laws that say ever vote must count.

    May 31, 2008 11:37 am at 11:37 am |
  12. Paul

    Any reinstatement would mean that to play by the rules is to get cheated. Your democracy at work!

    May 31, 2008 11:37 am at 11:37 am |
  13. Liz

    Did the delegations "that knew" there would be severe consequences inform the MI and FL electorate their votes wouldn't count, allow them to weigh in as to what they wanted to do? This is about each and every American voter, boys and girls, it's now about the surest path to an Obama presidency.

    May 31, 2008 11:37 am at 11:37 am |
  14. jo

    I believe that Hillary is the beginning of the end of the Democrats. She is very self-serving, she put herself before the team. & we Democrats will pay the price. If she would have dropped out while the party was still semi together we would have united by now. NOW there will be a divide that our party will have a hard time recovering from. Democrats out smarted themselves. GREAT another 4 years of BUSH. Don't be surprised if she runs as an independent. That's how mush she feels entitled to the throne.

    Sincerely,
    a heartland, blue collar democrat

    May 31, 2008 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
  15. NEVER AN OBAMAPHILE

    OH NO, OFCOURSE NOT!!!!!!!!! THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO, AND IN TURN, GIVE HILLARY THE VOTES SHE DESERVES. THE PARTY IS ((((( IN LOVE ))))) WITH BARAK OBAMA, AND THEY ARE NOT ABOUT TO DO ANYTHING TO TAKE AWAY HIS EDGE IN THE CAMPAIGN.

    GO AHEAD AND BLATANTLY FAVOR OBAMA........................................

    GO AHEAD AND DISCOUNT FLORIDA, MICHIGAN, AND MILLIONS OF HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS...................................................

    GO AHEAD AND SAY GOODBYE TO ANY CHANCE FOR HAVING A DEMOCRAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE IN NOVEMBER...........................

    May 31, 2008 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
  16. Ken in NC

    OK So reduce the delegates to 50% of the elected number and move on. Right now people are getting tired of this mess.

    May 31, 2008 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
  17. COUNT OUR VOTES! SEAT OUR DELEGATES!

    The Democratic Rules and Bylaws Committee should protect the voters of Florida against the Republican leadership that caused their votes to be taken away.

    THAT is the RESPONSIBILITY of the the DNC. Protect the voters!

    May 31, 2008 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
  18. LIsten

    Did I read that clearly that she is a former Clinton cabinet official that penalized Michigan and Floriday? Man I thought Obama was oppressing everybody. Man when you get the facts you know who is the problem. READ PEOPLE!

    May 31, 2008 11:39 am at 11:39 am |
  19. Chris

    I love Bill Nelson and Arthenia Joyner – what TREMENDOUS ADVOCATES OF THE PEOPLE!

    COUNT THE VOTES OF THE VOTERS OF FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN!

    The WILL OF THE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS in this country is for Hillary Clinton to be our Party's nominee. She has received the MOST VOTES of The People of this nation.

    Hillary Clinton is our nominee.

    May 31, 2008 11:39 am at 11:39 am |
  20. Steve

    50% of the delegates, split based upon what Hillary and Barack's current national standing, delegate-wise is, seems about the only way to be fair.
    Since we can never know how many would have voted for Barack, it's almost impossible to divvy the delegates based on what might have been. Since Hillary and Barack are very close in percentages, nationally, it would probably come out to around 50/50. Seems fair to me. Let's make the decision, and get on with life. This discussion is a well-beaten dead donkey....

    May 31, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  21. NickNas

    The BEST the DNC could muster for an IMPARTIAL Panel to rule on a important issue that will make or break HRC is a FORMER CLINTON CABINET MEMBER as Co-Chair????

    May 31, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  22. Manny

    I still do not understand why and how the FL dems can be punished for something the Reps who control their state legislature did. This is so weird it could only happen to Dems who continue to shoot themselves in the foot every time they get the advantage.

    May 31, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  23. Jerry Lee

    Hillary's people have transitioned into republicans......I want what I want no matter who it hurts and how badly the country is affected. Where's Nixon when you need him?

    May 31, 2008 11:41 am at 11:41 am |
  24. Paul

    Herman – Taking the stance you propose penalizes noone but the voters who took the time to go to the polls when THEY WERE TOLD TO! You do not get it – this is a democracy where the will of the people should prevail not what committee and officials scheduling primaries decide. Count the votes from Florida and Michigan!

    May 31, 2008 11:42 am at 11:42 am |
  25. Dick in Sioux Falls

    At the time of the Florida Primary, Barack Obama was not yet a household name. That Primary illustrated basically a name recognition contest, a contest which obviously strongly favored Hillary Clinton. Despite a candidate agreement not to campaign in Florida and Michigan, Clinton made at least 3 and possibly 4 fundraising trips to Florida, each of which was covered by the media. Video clips showed large Hillary signs and banners. I wonder where those signs came from, if there was no campaigning?

    May 31, 2008 11:42 am at 11:42 am |
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