June 2nd, 2008
09:00 AM ET
15 years ago

Clinton makes popular vote pitch in new ad

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(CNN) - In the latest sign Hillary Clinton isn't yet preparing to bow out of the presidential race, the New York senator is launching a new television ad Monday that highlights her claim she is beating Barack Obama in the popular vote.

The spot is set to run in the remaining two primary states - Montana and South Dakota - and argues Clinton has won “more votes than anyone in the history of the Democratic primaries.”

“Some say there isn’t a single reason for Hillary to be the Democratic nominee,” the ad's announcer states. “They’re right. There are over 17 million of them.”

Clinton echoed that argument in her Puerto Rican victory speech Sunday evening, declaring, "When the voting concludes on Tuesday…I will lead the popular vote."

"The decision [on who will be the nominee] will fall on the shoulders of those leaders in our party empowered by the rules to vote at the Democratic Convention," she also said.

Clinton's claim to winning the popular vote is debatable. Including the results from Clinton’s big win in Puerto Rico, she can only be considered the popular vote winner if the results from Michigan (where Obama was not on the ballot) are counted for her and Obama is awarded no votes from that state. But 237,762 voted "uncommitted" in that contest and the Obama campaign argues many of them were supporters of the Illinois senator.

In that scenario, Clinton holds a lead of 183,000 votes. But if Obama is awarded the uncommitted votes in Michigan, he comes out on top in the overall popular vote by 45,000 votes. Of all votes cast, that margin constitutes a difference of 0.1 percent.

Clinton can also be considered the popular vote leader if only the primary contests are included, and all caucus results are excluded. In that scenario, the New York Democrat is on top by more than 257,000 votes.

All scenarios don't include results from the non-binding primaries in Idaho and Nebraska.

soundoff (1,138 Responses)
  1. Brian

    Why doesn't she bring up the fact that she has only 47.9% of the poplar vote! MORE people voted AGAINST her, than for her!

    June 2, 2008 10:26 am at 10:26 am |
  2. John Starnes Tampa Florida

    As important as this race is, let's not forget that the same basic electoral processes, including touch screen machines with no paper trail made by Bush family corporate friend Diebold, that allowed the last two presidential elections to be tampered with, are still in place! For the first time ever, the U.S. banned international monitoring of our last election even though we demand OTHER nations submit to them, and it is clear that Florida and Ohio votes were tampered with in 2000 and 2004. Instead of being distracted by lapel pins and wacko ministers and Hillary vs. Obama as the new "bread and circuses", we must as a people demand a paper trail for EACH AND EVERY vote. America simply cannot afford to have democracy sabotaged a third time....too much is at stake. Tampered with elections GOT us into the current tragic mess we struggle with daily.

    June 2, 2008 10:26 am at 10:26 am |
  3. Bitter in Texas

    I guess that depends on Who's counting and what they are counting?? Sen. Clinton Tuesday evening would be a god time to exit stage left...Thank you.

    June 2, 2008 10:26 am at 10:26 am |
  4. Tina, NC

    Wow. Check out the picture they posted with this one. Notice the womn with the big sign Every Vote Counts.

    Someone should ask Clinton how EXCLUDING votes in the caucus states and giving Obama NO votes in Michigan goes with the message of "Every Vote Counts. They should have added a little disclaimer at the bottom that says:

    Unless you voted in
    A caucus state or you voted for Obama in Michigan.

    June 2, 2008 10:26 am at 10:26 am |
  5. cindy

    her supporters are just crazy like her..they all actin like they cannot see the reality.....loser
    go obama with the new slogan..fired up, ready to go...
    obama u are my man...

    June 2, 2008 10:26 am at 10:26 am |
  6. Lorna M.

    I ask that the Clinton campaign employ some consistency in its argument about who has the popular vote.

    If the crux of Clinton's argument that she leads in the popular vote is because "every vote must count," then how can her tally show her leading if she DISCOUNTS the votes cast in Nebraska and Idaho (where Obama won 68% and 79% of the votes, respectively) and in Michigan (where Obama's name wasn't on the ballot and about 240,000 voters chose Uncommitted in support of Obama).

    If we include those votes... because every vote must count... then Obama LEADS in the popular vote by 98,006 votes. Is it just me, or does it sound like the Clinton campaign is conveniently using fuzzy math?

    June 2, 2008 10:27 am at 10:27 am |
  7. Rooster

    What about all the people that didn't vote because their vote wasn't going to count? I've heard a lot of voters in FL/MI that didn't vote because it wasn't going to count. I guess she doesn't care about all of America just her America.

    June 2, 2008 10:27 am at 10:27 am |
  8. American Defender

    People should ask themselves....Why is Hillary running so hard?
    Seriuosly.....I don't believe it's for or because of the people. If it was then for her to agree to not counting the delegates of Florida and Michigan would have never happened. Then when things were not going her way she campaigned to have them counted. Now she wants to talk about popular vote??? Sounds to me like someone dosen't care about the bigger picture..just her narrow view of it.

    Obama dosen't need to speak about winning anything...he needs to let the proccess speak for itself. Loose lips sink ships and bandwagons.

    June 2, 2008 10:27 am at 10:27 am |
  9. Prakash

    U know, she is a real lousy loser. She NEVER though she was ever gonna lose.

    She does not know how to bow out gracefully. She should in fact learn from Obama...whenever he loses, he congrates her. She never seem to do the same.

    The question her is that, if she can't take losing properly, how is she gonna lead a superpower???

    I hope she does everyone a favour by packing up and leaving, asap.

    Let's get on with the General Election!!!

    June 2, 2008 10:27 am at 10:27 am |
  10. IG

    Nice how she can declare she'll have won the popular vote after Tuesday before the last states have even voted (notwithstanding the fact that everyone knows it isn't true). At the same time, she is furious anytime someone suggests that clearly, Obama will win the delegate race and the nomination (a fact that anyone smart enough to count to 2118 can see)..

    June 2, 2008 10:27 am at 10:27 am |
  11. Eric in Ca

    Popular vote has never been the metric in a primary contest. By Hillary's own words and the rules of the DNC, DELEGATES are the metric to pick a nominee.
    Hillary for the good of the party, it's time to concede and endorse Obama.

    June 2, 2008 10:27 am at 10:27 am |
  12. SOS

    Hillary please understand we do not want the SOS any longer. We need change and you are not the one that can make it happen. We don't need Billie Boy helping to direct this country. He couldn't even handle his own family affairs...by the way where is Billie? Haven't heard from him much lately...will probably leave you since you have lost....

    June 2, 2008 10:28 am at 10:28 am |
  13. mira

    i have a hard time understanding the logic behind this claim. if HC pushes for every vote to count, why does she skip those uncommitted votes that people chose because their candidate wasn't on ballet? how come it is o.k. for these to stay uncounted? people expressed their opinion by choosing them. most of us would just stayed at home, and didn't even bother
    and what about the votes of people that wanted to vote, but didn't do it, because the rules said it wouldn't mean anything anyway? their voice won't be heard. now it looks like DNC was lying to people, first telling them, even if you vote, your vote won't count and now when they decide to count them HC wants really to count just some of them that fit her agenda. how sad. she even has guts to put this ad out and press the issue everywhere she goes, but she really doesn't mean every vote, she means every hillary vote. to me she is straight up lying.

    June 2, 2008 10:28 am at 10:28 am |
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