June 3rd, 2008
08:44 PM ET
14 years ago

Schneider: A tale of two states

[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/06/03/west.jpg caption=" Voters in the last two states, Montana and South Dakota, wrapped up the grueling coast-to-coast Democratic nominating marathon."]
(CNN) - Two very white, working-class Western states. But look closer: there are some very real differences between the two sets of Democratic primary voters in tonight’s final primary contests.

South Dakota’s primary was closed, only registered Democrats were allowed to weigh in. But roughly one in three primary voters in Montana are independent – and that group is heavily supporting Barack Obama.

Hillary Clinton may have had an easier time winning over the party’s base - but Obama’s campaign will be counting on his ability to go toe-to-toe with John McCain over independent voters

soundoff (47 Responses)
  1. Kriskros 4 OBAMA, from Brussels, Belgium

    We are so happy for him and america and the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    The hope is that this will cahnge the face of the world

    June 3, 2008 09:11 pm at 9:11 pm |
  2. ginger

    Broken record. I'm voting for McCain if Hillary doesn't win.

    Why would any intelligent person say or do this? If Hillary had won how do you think John McCain and the Republicans would have treated her? Not good at all. So now you are ready to foresake the party and run to him. No problem because we Obama supporters have a plan. We are going to register new voters each and every day state by state. We want you on the team because this not about Barack or Clinton. This is about US. We are sick of Bush and what he has done to this country.

    Fire it up get ready let's go.

    Obama/Lakers 08

    June 3, 2008 09:13 pm at 9:13 pm |
  3. No Broken Record, Dearie . ..

    It's REAL. WE will absolutely, positively NOT vote for Obama!

    June 3, 2008 09:21 pm at 9:21 pm |
  4. Jay

    Ok someone has to say this: Most of the Clinton supporters are utter fools.

    They say Obama is sneaky with a straight face, even though they are supporting one half of the most corrupt couple in American politics. They claim to support Democratic values, but say they will vote for an ultraconservative candidate who said he didn't know anything about the economy and thinks we should stay in Iraq for "as long as it takes". After all the whining and screaming about how bad Bush is, why would you vote for his protege, even though Clinton and Obama generally have the same positions on most issues. Obama has even tried to reach out to Clinton supporters, but they remain hostile because they feel Clinton lost because she was a woman (she lost because she ran a bad campaign and didn't have a clear message) or they don't want to vote for someone who is non-white.

    Since the media never wants to say this out loud, I'll say it. Does Obama have a "white blue collar" problem? No. The Appalachian blue collar voters have a problem with HIM because he's not white. Spare me the excuses and denials.

    June 3, 2008 09:21 pm at 9:21 pm |
  5. Proud American

    Yes we Will!!!!!!!!!!
    Obama '08

    June 3, 2008 09:22 pm at 9:22 pm |
  6. Tim from Ohio

    I will not vote for Obama and will do everything in my power to make sure Hillary supporters vote for McCain.

    June 3, 2008 09:22 pm at 9:22 pm |
  7. Marie in California

    Obama's ship is already sunk.....it's called the Titanic.

    McCain – 2008

    June 3, 2008 09:22 pm at 9:22 pm |
  8. JC

    Obama/Clinton = THE Nightmare TIcket.

    Obama/Hillary = the Nightmare Ticket.

    June 3, 2008 09:25 pm at 9:25 pm |
  9. JJ in NY

    No way would I vote for Obama with hillary on the ticket .

    June 3, 2008 09:26 pm at 9:26 pm |
  10. Tired of the teleprompter speeches

    I am so tired of watching and listening to John McCain read his speeches using a teleprompter. I find it hard to believe him when he needs three Teleprompters (read left, read center, read right...), to tell me his plans for the future of America. I feel like I’m back in college at a lecture with a boring monotone college professor. Only difference, my professor memorized and knew most of his material. McCain needs a public speaking coach and a lot of practice. It even appeared that the audience was being prompted to cheer, chant and clap. Is this the man most of the upset Democrats and Republicans want for a leader.
    I look forward to watching the first debate of McCain and Obama, to see McCain communicate without using a teleprompter.

    June 3, 2008 09:30 pm at 9:30 pm |
  11. MD

    Let's not keep talking about what doesn't matter.

    June 3, 2008 09:33 pm at 9:33 pm |
  12. chris

    I think it's sad that all these superdegate are going the way they are going they all know that hillary would make a better president then obama they need to change there mind and move to hillary before it's to late Go Hillary Go Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    June 3, 2008 09:35 pm at 9:35 pm |
  13. Mary S. Stickney

    Hillary shows the strength of which this country was made. Mary

    June 3, 2008 09:35 pm at 9:35 pm |
  14. Mary McConnell

    Our polls haven't closed yet, but this time Montana has gotten noticed. Congrats to Senator Obama; Senator Clinton ran a great race. Bill Richardson gets my vote for Vice-President.

    June 3, 2008 09:38 pm at 9:38 pm |
  15. A Victory for Civil Rights.....

    All I have heard about how the nomination of Obama is a "historic moment". Since when did this become a civil rights victory, I thought we were trying to nominate the best person for the job. You out there who are voting for Obama because he is black, shame on you for being racist. If he weren't black would you vote for him? I doubt it.

    June 3, 2008 09:39 pm at 9:39 pm |
  16. Hasn't even been to Iraq???

    Could it be true that Obama has never been to Iraq to talk to the people, the new govenment, our troops, our military leaders on the ground???? Just what we need someone shooting his mouth off with no first hand knowledge. Makes me feel real confident of his abilities... NOT...

    June 3, 2008 09:47 pm at 9:47 pm |
  17. Mary S. Stickney

    "With malice towards none, with Charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the natiion's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and all nations." Abraham Lincoln, President

    June 3, 2008 09:53 pm at 9:53 pm |
  18. California Women for Obama

    Let's go Montana!

    June 3, 2008 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
  19. Michael Maddox

    This is a message for Senator Clinton Supporters.

    Now if you truly wish to put your own selfish ambitions ahead of your future, and ahead of your children's future, then fine- vote for McCain.

    But keep this in mind: you all have been complaining, just as us Obama supporters have, about the economy, the high gas prices, the foolishness of the war, and the increased foreclosure rate. Now if you truly vote for McCain, you'll be saying that you don't mind paying $4.00-$5.50 a gallon for gasoline. You'll be saying that you don't mind choosing to pay to fill up your car, as opposed to feeding yourself and your children. You'll be saying that you don't care about what your kids will go through during the next 4 years. You'll be saying that the economy is just fine when you're working 2-3 jobs a day just to barely pay the bills. If you truly love suffering, which is what the Bush Administration has delivered and what the McCain Administration will only continue, then you can by all means vote for John McCain. If you truely care about this country, about your children's future, then you'll vote for Senator Obama.

    June 3, 2008 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
  20. Clinton Supporter

    No, Michael Maddox, Clinton supporters who vote for McCain are saying that the DNC is corrupt and worse than the Supreme Court was when the election went to Bush. We can wait 4 years if we have to for the Dems to begin acting like Dems instead of Nazis. Don't you presume to tell us what is important to us. This is still a free country, and we can vote any way we want. I've been voting for the lesser of two evils for my whole voting life. I'm tired of it, and I'm not doing it anymore. I'll either stay home or vote for McCain – at least he is a respectful human being – a good start, I'd say.

    Obama supporters are among the nastiest people I've ever encountered. They are a reflection of their candidate's values – racist, sexist, ageist. That's why they're attracted to him. Read the above comments here and on other articles if you doubt that. Hillary Clinton deserves the respect of all Americans, win or lose. Obama mouths that now, but obviously the supporters haven't gotten the memo. Unite the party? Don't hold your breath.

    June 3, 2008 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm |
  21. vic nashville,Tn

    Congratulations Hillary
    You won more popular votes

    June 3, 2008 11:26 pm at 11:26 pm |
  22. susanne

    What could have been a "dream ticket" is now clearly a "nightmare ticket". When will the media give it up.

    June 4, 2008 10:25 pm at 10:25 pm |
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