June 7th, 2008
01:55 PM ET
12 years ago

Couple divided on what happens next

WASHINGTON (CNN) - Hillary Clinton urged supporters at her final rally Saturday to back Barack Obama with the same enthusiasm they'd had for her presidential bid - but not everyone was ready to follow her instruction.

Arms crossed, David Rivera of Baltimore told a reporter that "it will be a cold day down there before I support - that man." The nomination, he said, had been "stolen" from Clinton. "She won the popular vote, the people wanted her. [Democratic National Committee chairman] Howard Dean didn't."

But his wife Maria said she was ready to follow Clinton's example. "In campaigns, there are winners, and there are losers," she said. "You can't sit and think about what went wrong forever. You have to move forward."

She said she belonged to a grassroots group of nearly two dozen Clinton supporters who called and canvassed for her in the days leading up to Maryland's presidential primary, and that nearly all of them have now decided to volunteer for Obama.

soundoff (314 Responses)
  1. Demi

    Look, Hillary had no choice but to concede. As a leader, she had to stand for the party. But, we do not. We still are independent thinkers and voters who were lied to by main stream media, and disenfranchised by the democratic party. We had our candidate stolen from us while they bludgeoned her and disrespect the race of women allowing sexist comments and white racial slurs to be the winner of the day. This is what will be proven in history, not some historical nomination of a black man. He simply didn't win within the honor of popular choice, but rather back room slimy policy and politicts. I would vote for a black man, I honestly didn't see color until this face and Obama's own chuches hatred towards whites as well as white women. Think about it...Everyone is so glad to announce a nominee...named Obama. But he slid into it by the vote of the super delegates with the position that he had more delegate votes. Ok, what about the popular vote and the ability of one candidate to be stronger in the general election? These are to be their consideratoins and it none of these things matter to them. Watch where the super delegate end up in an Obama administration. You will see the back room dealings now being hidden with this phony dem announcement that they won't take "donations from lobby interests". What a joke and utter and complete hypocrits the democratic party has proven themselves to be.

    It is too bad Obama won the nomination this way, as historically it will always be challenged. Popular vote of the people, vs. delegate lead, not majority vote representative of the people. That is how the REAL delegate vote counts. By those state delegates that represent the popular votes. However, Obama through his pursuit of caucus delegates, gained the lead. Most voters doesn't understand what this means. In my county, the Obama camp closed caucus doors after they had a majority of caucus attenders and controlled therefore, winning the caucus vote! Is this democracy? No, it is not.

    The super-delegate vote that was added to Obama's overall delegate count is representative of the good ole' guy's back room decision of super-delegates and DNC negotiators. The super delegates were only created to decide a nomination to "insure" a nominee. With such a close race with two very strong nominees, the challenge on the convention floor would have been an election hosted by a democracy. This is a slimy, sloopy way to appoint a nominee is not representative of the popular and precious preference of the American voters.

    We have a nominee chosen by super-delegates when a situation did not truly YET exist for them to make their decison for a candidate.

    I feel bad for Obama...his historic nomination will forever be challenged if a proper examination is done how this nomination came about. Most Americans do not understand the delgate process, the caucus process and just exactly what the DNC allowed to happen as well as supported in this nomination. They will forever live with disgrace when the millions of voters throughout America figure out what truly has taken place.

    June 7, 2008 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  2. ANGIE

    listen up hillary supporters voting for mccain out of spite or anger will only make her lose again it will destroy everything she has worked so hard for with mcain as president hillary wont be able to move her healthcare plan along mccain is a republican he will not work with her obama is democrat he will work for her look at mcains policys look at obamas look at hillarys looks like hillary and obamas match up NOTmccain and hillarys so please think it over dont let her lose again unite join her with your support for obama A VOTE FOR OBAMA IS A VOTE FOR HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    June 7, 2008 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  3. scott

    Senator Obama was *golfing* during Hillary's speech? Can he say anything louder and ruder against her supporters? The arrigants of this guy is why I will never vote for him. that and his lack of experience outside of all the campaining (sounds more like BUSH everyday)

    June 7, 2008 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  4. Brian

    Wonderful speech from Hillary. Good hard fought primary. It really shows you that these "Clinton Supporters for McCain" are nothing but Republicans!

    Example: Hillary Supporter

    "He could not even give her the respect due, instead he plays golf. That just shows how much he thinks he is above her 18 million supporters.. I will NEVER vote for him and his fanatics. My supoort and money are going to his oposition."

    Obama stands for 95% of what Hillary stands for.... this person will vote for McCain who stands for the opposite of what Hillary stands for! McCain evn voted to IMPEACH Bill. Obama will represent the 18 MIL that voted for him and the 18 MIL that voted for Hillary! Together they will change Washington.

    This person is just an example of Republicans who lie and spread hate.

    The choice is clear this Fall.

    June 7, 2008 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  5. randy

    Please democrate please unite in one divided we fell so we can change the democratic face to our side please.

    June 7, 2008 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  6. AER

    Unless Obama puts Hillary on the ticket as VP, my vote will go to McCain. I want someone with experience. If McCain puts Connie Rice or Colin Powell on the ticket as VP, he's sure to win.

    Shame on Obama for playing golf as Hillary went on the record to support him. It shows his lack of respect to her and to the 18 million Democrats who voted for her. The Democrats made a grave mistake in selecting him as the Party's nominee and they deserve to lose. I do not want the people who ran the Democratic primaries running this country. Hillary was their only saving grace. The reason the Democrats keeping losing the Presidency is because they have so many stupid people running the party.

    As an Independent with no political affiliation, I would have liked an opportunity to vote for Hillary as President, she truly was the best candidate. Now that I no longer have that option, the Republicans with McCain look better than the Democrats with Obama. The fact is...John McCain isn't George Bush, but Barack Obama is Barack Obama.

    June 7, 2008 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  7. Renee

    I am a DEMOCRATIC and I am going to look ahead in unity and like Hillary said support Obama as President because we can't allow a Repubican to take the White House. If we care about Hillary we will put are difference aside and help elect Obama to be the President.

    June 7, 2008 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  8. I vote my conscience

    I vote my conscience and the haters do not gain my nod of approval.

    June 7, 2008 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  9. Vietnam Vet

    You haters, give me a break, she should have done that speech the night he got the nomination, why should he wait around for her speech. Its good she finally made it.. Just like others I have no illusions, there are people who will not vote for Senator Obama because of their deeply held bias, or some other make up excuse, rather than say that, they say, Clinton only, he have no experience. Bush had experience, Chaney had experience and where are we. So if you want to stay home or vote for Mccain, good riddence you are a hinderance to the Democratic party and need to leave, I am ready for a change.

    June 7, 2008 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  10. ChicoSez

    I don't believe that McCain=Bush as the kids are saying. I've watched John McCain for the better part of two decades and I like what I've seen. I've know about Obama since last January and I'm not very impressed by his actual accomplishments. It is possible that Obama would be a great president, but its much more likely that he'd be another Jimmy Carter. Now is not the time to take that chance. John McCain is a known quantity who HAS worked on a bi-[artisan basis to get things done. McCain/Fiengold, McCain/Kennedy are two major ones. I don't remember any major policy inititves from Obama. Oh and lobbyists only account for 3% of the DNC's contributions. Will Nancy Pelosi also follow Obama's orders since over 55% or her money comes from lobbyists. I'm not holding my breath on that one. So much for "reforming' the dem party. What a phony.

    June 7, 2008 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  11. Shawn shawn

    obama is an empty suit as far as policys.He is a good orater as is any slick fast talking salesman. The only reason he has gotten this far is people are afraid to question him and his liberal policies for fear of being called a rascist and that is how the general election will be run. I am not rich I work hard for a living but Iam not standing at the government bread line .I"d rather starve first. So go vote for obama thats all this generation knows is what can i get for free without working for it

    June 7, 2008 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  12. Jack

    Once again, I am both stunned by the hypocrisy of Clintonites saying Obama's campaign was negative (???) and saddened by the baltant racism of so many of her supporters.

    Get over it folks. The world is leaving you behind....

    June 7, 2008 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  13. Matthew

    Democrats 08

    June 7, 2008 03:03 pm at 3:03 pm |
  14. Rachel

    Okay, so Hillary said support Obama, what the DNC thinks we are all sheep? No way maybe you should check out Hillary's site, the people are speaking and the word is "RAIN McCAIN!!" If our votes are ignored by the DNC then screw it, McCain wins my vote!! HILLARY 2012, MCCAIN 2008! Obama can't win us, we don't want him! He has only been a senator for 1 term! AND SIXTEEN MONTHS OF THAT HAS BEEN THIS CAMPAIGN!!!! He is underqualified and I won't vote for him, my husband won't vote for him nor my friends and family. Out of about 1000 dems I know personally anly 15 are for him. You think you seem enlightened to vote for a black man, but someone who doesn't have the experience and capablility to do the job shouldn't win even if he's purple. SO RAIN MCCAIN, watch the polls you'll see, we don't want BO! and how dare he put up a new front page on Hillary's site, oin BO and contribute, tracking us? Track this most are switching over to MCCAIN!

    June 7, 2008 03:03 pm at 3:03 pm |
  15. Unity now

    Stand tall against fixed elections and hatred and injustice.

    Do not vote for those that trashed and bashed Hillary.

    Do not vote for those that demeaned other Americans and threw filth and vulgarity at fellow democrats.

    June 7, 2008 03:03 pm at 3:03 pm |
  16. Capt. Smash, Salt Lake City, Utah

    Seriously, she thought she had this election in the bag. She believed in her own arrogance and invincibility; she took this election process for granted and did not think Obama was the real deal!

    Hillary Clinton will needs to prove she is serious about be Obama running mate. She needs to show some humility. To start needs to apologize for her vote on the Iraq war. She needs to make a pledge not to accept federal PAC’s and lobbyist funds.

    Those disgruntled Hillary supporters need to get on board or just go to McCain . You will regret it in the end, when you are paying 12.00 gallon at the pump.

    June 7, 2008 03:03 pm at 3:03 pm |
  17. Ken

    My kids loves Obama and can not wait to see him being the next president of United states.

    June 7, 2008 03:03 pm at 3:03 pm |


    June 7, 2008 03:03 pm at 3:03 pm |
  19. Timothyt

    I have learned that there are many Republicans posing as angry Clinton supporters trying to keep us divided. Do not believe it. There are some Repubs who are desparate and will try anything because they know they are toast this year. They think we are dumb enough to vote McCain in because of their bogus posts. Democrats will be united in November! Get ready for defeat McCain, Bush, Cheney and the politics of the past! It is going to happen. Accept it now or later, it really doesn't matter.

    June 7, 2008 03:03 pm at 3:03 pm |
  20. jb

    Isn't it time the nasty things that are being said stop!!! Leave Hillary alone. It is the supporters that are going to destroy the unity. If you don't want to vote for Obama just say that. Stop the nasty comments. If you don't want Hillary for VP just make that statement. We are getting tired of the nastys, and that goes for the media also.

    June 7, 2008 03:03 pm at 3:03 pm |
  21. Keith

    Hillary did not win the popular vote. How can people believe that kind of stuff she's spewing out of pure desperation? Counting Michigan, a flawed primary, but not counting caucus states where EVERYONE had a fair shot is beyond ridiculous

    June 7, 2008 03:04 pm at 3:04 pm |
  22. Rob

    a vote for McCain is a vote for making this country into a third world nation–Bush started it–McCain will finish the U.S.

    June 7, 2008 03:04 pm at 3:04 pm |
  23. jimmy

    David – Vote your interests. If you truly supported Hillary because of her policies, they are no different from Obamas; unless your are one those people who will not support him because he is different. In which case you need not vote.

    June 7, 2008 03:04 pm at 3:04 pm |
  24. Mr.C

    Thanks Maria, women like you can change a man's wrong opinion.

    June 7, 2008 03:04 pm at 3:04 pm |
  25. Karen, Carmel, IN

    Hey spring – Do you know that Obama is spending 1 weekend with his family? Yes, he's playing a round of golf to unwind. But he's also having a date nite with his wife, and it's his daughter's birthday – they are having a sleepover with the girl's friends. That's a good dad, a good husband. Good lord-the race JUST finished! I like Hillary, too. But let's face it, she lost because her campaign was run into the ground by Mark Penn and yes, her husband. Plus, it was horribly managed financially. They had no plans after Super Tuesday.

    If people want to complain about the popular vote, then complain that we need to change the system. Like it or not, Obama played by the rules the candidates were presented with. You can't chaneg in the middle, that's not right.

    June 7, 2008 03:04 pm at 3:04 pm |
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