July 21st, 2008
02:19 PM ET
13 years ago

New York Times rejects McCain: The e-mail

Here is New York Times Opinion Page Editor David Shipley's full e-mail to the McCain campaign detailing why the paper rejected the Arizona senator's essay.

Read the e-mail after the jump

Dear Mr. Goldfarb,

Thank you for sending me Senator McCain's essay.

I'd be very eager to publish the Senator on the Op-Ed page.

However, I'm not going to be able to accept this piece as currently

I'd be pleased, though, to look at another draft.

Let me suggest an approach.

The Obama piece worked for me because it offered new information (it
appeared before his speech); while Senator Obama discussed Senator McCain,
he also went into detail about his own plans.

It would be terrific to have an article from Senator McCain that mirrors
Senator Obama's piece. To that end, the article would have to articulate,
in concrete terms, how Senator McCain defines victory in Iraq. It would
also have to lay out a clear plan for achieving victory - with troops
levels, timetables and measures for compelling the Iraqis to cooperate. And
it would need to describe the Senator's Afghanistan strategy, spelling out
how it meshes with his Iraq plan.

I am going to be out of the office next week. If you decide to re-work the
draft, please be in touch with (Redacted)

Again, thank you for taking the time to send me the Senator's draft. I
really hope we can find a way to bring this to a happy resolution.


David Shipley

Filed under: John McCain
soundoff (151 Responses)
  1. Capt. Smash, Salt Lake City, Utah

    Has anyone ever notice the McWar campaign does nothing but criticize and complain about everything. No new ideas, no positive message, just criticize and complain. They must wake up everyday and have there morning meetings and say ok guys what can we criticize and complain about today. These guys must be angry old men that are suffering from ERD. How does Cindy Mcwar live with this guy, I give her credit for hanging in there. God Bless Her.

    McCain; criticize and complain, criticize and complain, criticize and complain, criticize and complain, criticize and complain, criticize and complain. If the MSM counts how many times McWar puts; out a negative messages to the public it must be a 50 to 1 ratio.

    Mcwar try to come up with a positive message, please.

    July 21, 2008 03:21 pm at 3:21 pm |
  2. John Griswell

    TLTR version:

    Dear 5th grader. You need more then negative attacks to have an opinion on Iraq.


    July 21, 2008 03:22 pm at 3:22 pm |
  3. Russell Hammond

    This is straight up the funniest bit and biggest political slam I've ever read.

    Out with the old...

    July 21, 2008 03:22 pm at 3:22 pm |
  4. Damian Salter

    too funny!

    July 21, 2008 03:23 pm at 3:23 pm |
  5. Yasriel

    Priceless! Can McSame could be any clueless?

    McSame = Bush
    From one dumb to another...You mean this is all RNC could offer?!

    What a laughing stock!

    July 21, 2008 03:27 pm at 3:27 pm |
  6. Julie, WI

    It states to "articulate"...hahahaha


    July 21, 2008 03:27 pm at 3:27 pm |
  7. corin

    the problem was all mccain did in his draft was talk about obama.... obama obama obama!!! Mccain gave no solutions mccain did not lay out any plans.... new york time was trying to save mccain some embarrasment.... now every newspapers and networks have access to this peice of jibber jab.... mccain essay was terrible.. and his campaign should have hid it from the public eye!

    July 21, 2008 03:27 pm at 3:27 pm |
  8. baracomama

    It would do good if all the other media would take the new York times lead.. If you dont have a solution etc...
    By the way Did We Win the war or not ?

    July 21, 2008 03:28 pm at 3:28 pm |
  9. Kinjiru

    Reminds me of my Supervisors comments during one of the bazillion edits of my PhD Thesis

    July 21, 2008 03:28 pm at 3:28 pm |
  10. ANGIE

    Mcain they want political news like what your plans are with iraq not just hearing about the surge the surge and we are winning and bashing obama THEY WANT DETAILS OF YOUR PLANS OLD MAN WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND????? WE THE PEOPLE ALSO WANT TO KNOW YOUR PLANS but then again with your statements like 100 years in iraq we cant leave yet theres alot to be done were winning and we still have more to do then i guess thats your plans IGNORING IRAQ LEADERS IGNORING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE YOU WANT TO STAY STAY STAY!!!!!!

    July 21, 2008 03:29 pm at 3:29 pm |
  11. 57 States

    Sorry Mr. McCain,
    We have an agenda and you are not part of it......We have a liberal agenda and have our sights set on a socialist.

    PS If you see Pelosi send her our love

    July 21, 2008 03:29 pm at 3:29 pm |
  12. An observer on Aruba

    Finally someone that says, "Stop wining and do something constructive."

    Well McCain: Stop spitting in the air is you want to have a shot to become commander in chief.

    July 21, 2008 03:38 pm at 3:38 pm |
  13. Tim, Coronado, CA

    McCain is demonstrating that he isn't up to clear analytical thinking. We have one incompetent fool as President now, why would we want to repeat that mistake?

    July 21, 2008 03:39 pm at 3:39 pm |
  14. Mary

    Just plain laughable.

    McCain, your party has been in power for the last 8 years yet all you do is blame Obama for everything from the oil crisis to the Iraq war?

    What have you & Bush done?

    I can begin to answer that for you!

    You started an unwarranted war!!! One of the Biggest blunders in American history and plan to continue this war!
    You did nothing to help us move away from oil and now we are in this mess!
    You did nothing to stop the jobs from leaving the country and plan to continue this 4 more years!!
    You & Bush admittedly know nothing about the economy. America can’t afford 4 more years of the same

    My friends, McCain has joined the double talk express!!!

    July 21, 2008 03:39 pm at 3:39 pm |
  15. OBAMA Supporter all the way

    McCain is turning into a "grumpy" old man. You're not acting like a war hero – more like a war whiner!

    Interesting how people are wondering why the world is falling in love with Obama instead of McCain! Something old and something new. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.

    July 21, 2008 03:39 pm at 3:39 pm |
  16. Rosa Birmingham, AL

    Maybe if McCain could come up with some ideas of his own they would publish it. They shouldn't have to publish something that is totally an attack piece. The right wing media haters are going to have a hay day with this. They want to force the NYT to publish a piece of trash from McCain yet they are the ones that are blocking the equal time legislation because they don't want anything to balance their right wing radio hate mongers. Can't have it both ways people.

    July 21, 2008 03:39 pm at 3:39 pm |
  17. Brandi

    I am actually interested to compare the two. Can we get a copy of McCain's? I'm guessing Fox News would post it.

    July 21, 2008 03:39 pm at 3:39 pm |
  18. Tony

    Hear! Hear!...and that's coming from someone who is fan of the NYTimes.

    McCain's policy on Iraq is the same as Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice and so many others have.

    The administration knew so much prior to 9/11, had the information, knew an attack was imminent, that planes were going to be used, NY and Wash. were targeted, etc., but as many people know now, Bush/Cheney, etc. used National Security as an excuse to keep only the smallest possible group of people knowing what was going on.

    A lot happened after 9/11 as everyone now knows, but one thing that happened that most people do not know is that America became a torture country.

    McCain, deny as he might, believes in, and has many of the same policies as Bush.

    If the American people have not awakened to the damage done by this administration in the last 8 years, has not bothered to read, digest and realize what really happened and how complicit Bush and other members of his administration were then the U.S. deserves what it gets. All Americans need to get up off their backsides from in front of their reality tv shows, register to vote and VOTE!

    If those who do not do so, those who refuse to believe the facts that have come out since this war began, those who do not hold Bush and his administration responsible for their actions, then they should remain silent, not complain, and prepare themselves for what comes next, whatever that may be.

    July 21, 2008 03:39 pm at 3:39 pm |
  19. John McShame, Obama Is Going to Tax You & Cindy, but Not Me & 95% Americans Making < $250,000/Yr

    Ouuuch! that kinda hurts!

    It's like scolding a "whining" fifth grader with "mental depression"....

    For ones, a news outlet that have the balls to stand up to the republican smear machine......John McShame offers NO NEW alternatives but continue to spiral out of control with his failed antiquated talking points.

    It's time to take america back and put a STOP to all the lies, mis-truths and spin of the Dubya regime that McSame wants to continue to perpetuate..........STOP THE REPUBLICAN SMEAR CAMPAIGN NOW!!!!!

    VOTE OBAMA 08'/12' – YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    July 21, 2008 03:40 pm at 3:40 pm |
  20. Tony


    Hear! Hear!…and that's coming from someone who is NOT a fan of the NYTimes.

    July 21, 2008 03:40 pm at 3:40 pm |
  21. LAC

    This actually is stunning honesty.
    It says:
    1) McCain piece was just interested in attacking
    2) McCain has no comprehensive plan for Iraq
    3) McCain has no comprehensive plan for Afghanistan
    4) A tacit acknowledgement that BO's piece provided "a clear plan for achieving victory — with troops levels, timetables and measures for compelling the Iraqis to cooperate, " as well as describing a stragegy for Afghanistan that spells out how it meshes with an Iraq plan.

    Remarkable. It is a telling acknowlegment that for all McCains alleged foreign policy cred, he can't articulate his foreign policy vision in an article. This is the most definitive evidence yet that BO is vastly more prepared to be CIC than McCain. I was a republican, but after this week and seeing how Obama was right all along about . . . well about everything – I'm voting for Obama.

    July 21, 2008 03:41 pm at 3:41 pm |
  22. Garçon

    McCain: “I find it ironic that he (Obama) is emulating the worst mistake of the Bush administration by waving the ‘Mission Accomplished’ banner prematurely.”

    July 17, 2008- "I repeat my statement that we have succeeded in Iraq," McCain told reporters aboard his campaign bus in Kansas City. "Not 'We are succeeding.' We have succeeded in Iraq."

    July 21, 2008 03:41 pm at 3:41 pm |
  23. brad

    I think the NYT saved McCain from disaster. Wish they would print it as he and his people wrote it. It will say a lot.

    July 21, 2008 03:41 pm at 3:41 pm |
  24. Arkansas Undertaker

    McCain has No new of fresh ideas. All he has donei s built an entire campaign on criticizing, complaining and whinning!

    He is going to defeat himself!

    July 21, 2008 03:41 pm at 3:41 pm |
  25. Linda31

    I am loving this! Instead of attacking, explain what you would do McCain. Oh, you can't?

    Quick question, what war did you win??? Since you keep on saying that you know how to win wars. What war was it?

    July 21, 2008 03:41 pm at 3:41 pm |
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