Some in Clinton circle 'outraged'
[cnn-photo-caption image= [cnn-photo-caption image= http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/08/23/art.clintonsupp.ap.jpg caption="Some in Clinton's inner-circle are outraged."](CNN) - Even as Hillary Clinton praised the newly-minted Democratic presidential ticket Saturday, some in her circle are furious Barack Obama did not appear to give the New York Democrat serious consideration for the No. 2 spot, or even ask for her consultation on the matter.
"Set aside that Obama said she'd be on anybody's short list, set aside anybody's feelings on whether she was deliberately snubbed and the pros and cons of whether it should be her," a former Clinton strategist told CNN's Candy Crowley. "Focus on the politics of it and you have about a quarter of Clinton loyalists still not joining the caravan…for God's sake, not to even make a show of taking her seriously is flatly stupid."
A top Clinton advisor also told CNN they were "outraged," over how the process was conducted.
"You can't put [Obama VP vetters] Eric Holder and Caroline Kennedy on an hour plane ride to Chappaqua just to check the box? They should have done it just for the optics," this person said. "Barack never even said to her, 'Here's how I envision the job'– not one discussion with her about [the position]."
"They thought her supporters were mad before? They are really mad now," this person also said. We knew it was never going to happen but you would have thought they might at least make a show of it."
Former Clinton strategist Paul Begala echoed similar frustrations on CNN Friday night.
"I think there are a lot of Hillary voters who are going to say, 'Hey, wait a minute, man You said you were going to put her on the short list. You know, you didn't even vet her. You didn't call her. You didn't seek her advice,'" Begala said. "By the way, he didn't seek President Clinton's advice either. He's actually the guy who I think picked the best vice president in American history. You would think maybe you would sort of check in with him."
Meanwhile, two sources familiar with Obama's VP search tell CNN's Roland Martin Clinton was very much under consideration, and it's wrong for anyone to suggest that she wasn't.
One of the sources noted the Clintons have lived a very public life, and it's inconceivable for anyone to think that there really is more that needs to be learned from them by requesting additional paperwork, citing the release of documents by her during the primary season.
The other source said both Holder and Kenndey are very familiar with Sen. Clinton and that there was substantive and lengthy conversations among the Obama team with regards to Clinton as vice president.
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I think we all need to grow up a bit.
She lost, get over it! She ran a campaign, that's now in debt because she campaigned for too long. If she can't manager her campaign's budget, how can she run America's? She's too polarizing to unite the country and get Independent votes. That's just the way it is. She may be intelligent an smart on lots of issues, but she just wasn't an overall good fit for Obama. Nothing bad, it just didn't work out.
Obama could've included her a little more in his VP search, and she could've been more outspoken about supporting Obama and talking to her supporters (who are supposedly going to vote for McCain!). Let's move on.
Obama owes Hillary *NOTHING*.
She ran a ruthless and incompetent campaign, and the "dead-enders" are irrational people who won't be happy unless Hillary is installed in the White House.
Honestly... get over it, Clinton campaign. Outraged? Please.
Obama/Biden '08!
If Obama had vetted Clinton and chose someone else, they still would be angry. I think the PUMAs were born angery, are angry every day of their life and will die angry.
Why does it ALWAYS have to be about the Clinton's? Get over it...!
I am one of those Clinton supporters that is mad. I will be hitting the trail now for McCain. They could have even considered her – he snubbed the 18 million that voted for her.
Why should she be under consideration? Just because she was the first runner-up?
She spent much of her campaign actively trying to destroy his campaign. She wasn't snubbed, she made the gamble that, if she lost, that was it. He picked a guy he felt gave her a chance to win over someone who divided the party.
I am so tired of the people who believe in their ultimate entitlement in this country. The democratic process went through the proper steps and there was, as always is in any competition, a winner and someone (or people in this case) who did not win.
While I attempt to teach my children about trying to do their best in an honest and sportsman-like manner, and to be a gracious loser, all they see and hear are the supporters of Senator Clinton ranting like the spoiled children I tell my kids to ignore and pity on the playground. Perhaps it is time we fail and fall behind as a world nation and let someone else take the helm while we sort out just what it is that makes us feel so strongly entitled to take our ball and go home when we are not picked for the best side of kickball.
If the Clintons are now considered to be the top advisers of what is right in politics, then someone has conveniently forgotten recent history. It was a history of lies, scandals, more lies, and self-serving behavior.
Obama = ARROGANCE
Obama/Biden 2008/2012
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As an educated, professional woman , still working 60 hours a week at age 70, and a Democrat for 25 years, I feel disenfranchised and insulted by Obama's ignoring and snubbing Senator Clinton. The issues on the table are healthcare and the economy and then national security. I have lost total faith in a man who I believed would be a bright shining star. He is, after all, a politician and one who must be intimidated by the senator from New York. He's lost my vote.
Sounds like both Clintons are sleeping in the bed that they made for themselves. They honestly thought that they owned the Democratic Party, didn't they? They burned the first bridge by their unethical treatment of Obama during the primaries and now?
In your face, Bill and Hillary Clinton. In your face.
Outrage? You and your supporters are outraged? I think Begala and Carville need to shut their faces.
Bernie Moore-Knowles
Papa'aloa, Hawai'i
Seriouly this is has gotten old. I honestly believe that some of these Clinton 'supporters' are either closet republicans trying to sabotage the election or democrats desperate for attention.
They need to put their bruised egos aside and fall in line or vote McCain. Just remember that Obama has 18 million supporters as well and if you cost us this election. We surely won't forget in 4yrs when your high and might Hillary runs again. Do you really believe that after costing us an election and hurting the country we will support your candidate in 4yrs?
Dream on! Time to grow up and move on. These people have been cuddled enough- time for some tough love!
If Barack can so easily disregard Hillary, someone who has 18,000,000 votes to her name... What is he going to do the people (the rest of us) that only have one?
Considering that her name is now getting called up for nomination in Denver, he should have thought a bit harder about his timing. Unity? He may have just tossed the baby out with the bath water. I can almost see this turning into a slug fest, something the Republicans are sure to poke and prod at come November.
My personal favorite? Only supporting half votes for Florida and half votes for Michigan when it was learned it would almost certainly cost her the election and NOW pushing to get full votes for both states at the convention when it suits and favors him? Does he forget we have good memories?
Good luck in November, Barack. I hope you win but you won't get MY vote. I'll still vote on my state and local issues and candidates but the preisdental box? I might leave that one blank for the first time ever...
Sincerely,
one of the 18,000,000 people.
How about this, for every hissy fit they have, they should send Clinton a dollar..... debt solved.
But did Hillary really want #2?? She said nothing to indicate she'd take it. And, her supporters all yelled about NOT taking the #2 spot when Obama defeated her. What's this all about?
Are Clinton's supporters playing the "hurt little ones" now? And, consider her attacks on Obama during the primary. Good grief, she would have made a fine "attack dog" for the GOP! McCain's people loved her for that...and now her supporters are hurt???
Awwwwwww.....
And here we thought she was bigger than that. This is a disappointment!
RSH
PUMAs need to get over it. The Clinton ship has sailed. Now you have to decide, "do I do what's best for America or do I spite my country because I am bitter over the result?" Your decision will show what kind of person you really are. I suggest you suck it up and join us in making American great again. You owe your allegence to your country, not a person. After all, isn't that what we've been complaining about these last 7 1/2 years?
wahhh, wahhh, wahhh!
Sorry Hillary, you lost, and he won. End of story.
If this was somehow a surprise to you, your an idiot. If you somehow don't understand why he couldn't pick Hilary, your really not smart enough to be voting anyway.
Let it go, Hillary. Let it go.
Bottom line, there was no chance she was going to be VP, so why "make a show of it?" That would have been a waste of everyone's time. Obama made a smart choice. He doesn't need the Clinton's blessing for everything he does. Sheesh.
The Clintons and their supporters need to get over themselves!!!
SHE LOST!!! THE END!!!
He doesn't need her advice and doesn't owe anything to her!!
Not to mention that had he gone out of his way to appease these people, he would have been criticized for that as well!!
The truth is, some people just aren't going to vote for him and they should stop trying to blame him for it!! He will never be good enough for some people and he will just win without them!!
LMAO!! This "Whaaaaaa" behavior is the BEST reason to NOT pick Hillary. I really wish she would tell these whiners to LET IT GO. For her own future as a potential cabinet member for Obama she NEEDS TO.
This is such a non story. The truth is that this "outrage" is few and far between. This is just another attempt by the msm to keep the false since of division between democrats alive. Now bring on all the GOP trolls and their PUMA posts. I wish every one who believes this is an issue would do a little research on PUMA so they could see how insignificant they are.
Isn't it worse to have been heavily vetted and then found out your not good enough or not the type of person someone would want as a VP? I think everyone in Obama's campaign has been very respectful to Hillary's feelings in their talk about the VP slot.
Move on...
Well, they made their position clear...