Some in Clinton circle 'outraged'
[cnn-photo-caption image= [cnn-photo-caption image= http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/08/23/art.clintonsupp.ap.jpg caption="Some in Clinton's inner-circle are outraged."](CNN) - Even as Hillary Clinton praised the newly-minted Democratic presidential ticket Saturday, some in her circle are furious Barack Obama did not appear to give the New York Democrat serious consideration for the No. 2 spot, or even ask for her consultation on the matter.
"Set aside that Obama said she'd be on anybody's short list, set aside anybody's feelings on whether she was deliberately snubbed and the pros and cons of whether it should be her," a former Clinton strategist told CNN's Candy Crowley. "Focus on the politics of it and you have about a quarter of Clinton loyalists still not joining the caravan…for God's sake, not to even make a show of taking her seriously is flatly stupid."
A top Clinton advisor also told CNN they were "outraged," over how the process was conducted.
"You can't put [Obama VP vetters] Eric Holder and Caroline Kennedy on an hour plane ride to Chappaqua just to check the box? They should have done it just for the optics," this person said. "Barack never even said to her, 'Here's how I envision the job'– not one discussion with her about [the position]."
"They thought her supporters were mad before? They are really mad now," this person also said. We knew it was never going to happen but you would have thought they might at least make a show of it."
Former Clinton strategist Paul Begala echoed similar frustrations on CNN Friday night.
"I think there are a lot of Hillary voters who are going to say, 'Hey, wait a minute, man You said you were going to put her on the short list. You know, you didn't even vet her. You didn't call her. You didn't seek her advice,'" Begala said. "By the way, he didn't seek President Clinton's advice either. He's actually the guy who I think picked the best vice president in American history. You would think maybe you would sort of check in with him."
Meanwhile, two sources familiar with Obama's VP search tell CNN's Roland Martin Clinton was very much under consideration, and it's wrong for anyone to suggest that she wasn't.
One of the sources noted the Clintons have lived a very public life, and it's inconceivable for anyone to think that there really is more that needs to be learned from them by requesting additional paperwork, citing the release of documents by her during the primary season.
The other source said both Holder and Kenndey are very familiar with Sen. Clinton and that there was substantive and lengthy conversations among the Obama team with regards to Clinton as vice president.
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Sheesh are all these hillary supporters blind and dumb? They would vote for someone who is in total contradiction to Hillary's beliefs, just out of spite and vengeance? I really do feel bad for people like that. I just want Hillary to get back to her job as my senator, she's been pretty awful doing her job here. I've also had Mccain as my senator when i lived in arizona, and arizona was an open border and full of corruption during my time there. i'd never vote for either of the two because they do not do anything to improve my socio-economic status.
Hillary backers STOP WHINING, you were not snubbed! These 2 candidates share virtually ALL OF THE SAME POLICY BELIEFS!
If you can't get behind Barack, you weren't serious about Hillary.....You just wanted a trophy president!
Are you kidding me? I just cant believe that any Clinton supporter, any person who believes in the democratic party, any person who has been fed up with the way the country has been run for the past 8 years, would be so silly and ignorant as to actually vote for any one else besides Senator Obama. Is Senator Clinton mad that she was not chosen as the nominee? Sure she is. Is she mad that she was not chosen as the vice presidential nominee? Perhaps. But I have a really good guess as to what her vote is going to be come November... Obama/Biden. Because she still has values.
Nothing short of making Hillary Clinton the President will ever satisfy the vindictive and whining fanatics who worship her like some kind of cult leader. It's past time for Obama to stop coddling her and her sleazy, petulant, egomaniacal adulterer of a husband. They ran an incompetent campaign, and she lost. The fanatics can either get over it or vote their rights into oblivion. But they can stop prancing around and demanding that everyone constant kiss their rears.
Oh boo hoo....The Billaries need to get over it. Hillary handled herself and her campaign so poorly. Going in debt after having a quarter of a billion dollars. Shame on her and her campaign. The American people don't want a person like that as a potential president!!!
Give me a break people.
It is a loose-loose situation, if he doesn't make her a huge part in his decision, then you call him arrogant, but if he did make her a huge part then you would have said he's not ready to lead because he can't make a decision on his own.
The idea that you would put this country and your family's well being in jeopardy for another 4 years by voting for McCain with the hope that Hilary will run again in 2012 is insane.
This election is our last chance to fix this country. If you vote for McCain there will be no coming back. The US will become a Third World economy.
I would like to name a few points:
#1 Barack Obama is not the democratic nominee until he accepts his nomination; you never know what will happen between now and next thursday.
#2 Bill Clinton was one of the best Presidents that the US ever had. Think about economic surplus and Hillary's constant fight for health care.
#3 How dare Obama voters tell Hillary Voters to "grow up" when we have a right to vote for whomever we choose. Barack Obama is NOT the democratic nominee (see point #1)
#4 Those who are voting for John McCain has their own reason. Everyone is different. Everyone has different opinions. We democrats do not vote for democrats, but vote for whomever we feel that will be the best interest of our party.
#5 Those who are telling Hillary Clinton to move on, well, she has moved on. She's been campaigning vigorously for Senator Obama. It is her supporters that are reluctant to vote for Senator Obama. If John McCain chooses Mitt Romney as his VP, he'll definitely get my family's vote for sure because we thought Mitt would have been a great President. These are choices.
People have choices. No one is a democrat or a republican. Everyone votes for whomever they "like" best to run the country. We Hillary Clinton Supporters believe that Senator Hillary Clinton is the best fit for the job and is upset that Senator Obama didn't choose her to be someone who can take the #2 spot. We are all disappointed, but now we have a choice to vote between Obama and McCain. Plain and Simple.
It is mystifying why some Hillary supporters continue to say they will vote for McCain rather than Obama. A vote for McCain is a vote against the very positions supported by Hillary, which are presumably the reasons why these people supported her in the first place. How is it in either your own best interests or the best interests of the country to vote for policies you believe to be detrimental to us all?
Biden is a brilliant choice by Obama and should help unify and galvanize the party. It is time for all democrats to demonstrate the maturity needed to get behind the ticket and bring an end to the disastrous policies of the Bush administration that would only be continued by McCain.
Look, the primaries are over. Clinton's camp needs to bury the hatchet and allow the Obama/Biden ticket to proceed.
So what they are saying Obama should have wasted time and money to appease a bunch of sore losers who can't grow up? Yea, that makes sence. (sarcasm)
It's unfortunate that a trainee is in the number one spot while the person with experience and credentials is getting the number two spot. Biden should be running for President while Obama is still getting his ears wet.
I'm a Hillary supporter. I'm also a male supporter of P.U.M.A. I will write in for Hillary and do everything in my power to see that Obama loses. I don't like McCain, but in 2012, Hillary will be the Democratic nominee for President of the United States.
In your face, Obama.
I think you all need to stop this nonsense! Joe Biden is a good pick, even Hillary said so! Let's move on, its time for the public, especially the journalists and pundits to stop this nonsense about "Hillary's supporters" being upset about the pick. This is not Hillary's campaign! She or her "supporters" have to stop acting like they are entitled to ANYTHING! Lets move on!
Get over it, Hillary supporters. You can't be too bright to go over to McCain because you didn't get your way. Do you really want another 4 years of the Republican party with their 7 plus houses? Do you think you and your family will be better off if you cut your noses off to spite your faces and support McCain? I was in a minority in my state to be against Bush, BUT I WAS RIGHT! The way things are now, with our country paying for a war that should not have been waged, gas prices through the roof because Rebpulicans are in bed with the oil industry and the housing industry in the toilet because Republicans let the lending institutions perpetrate fraud on the American people, I WISH I HAD BEEN WRONG.
Putting it simply – I am outraged by Obama's actions!
I think that a Obama/Hillary ticket had all the chances of winning . Now it is doubtful.
MT, so you are going to allow your immature and childish bitterness over Hillary's loss to subject our country to four more years of what we're going through? You wish to have another four years of economic hardship, foreign policy blunders, and overall governmental tomfoolery?
I just cannot wrap my brain around the juvenile behavior of these rouge Clinton supporters. As another poster mentioned, she lost in a democratic process. That's what elections are. I too had campaigned for Ms. Clinton, but now, for the good of the country, I am going to swallow my pride, and do what's best for this country, and the generations which will follow mine.
To the others who had supported Hillary. Please, understand this is not a Student Council election in High School. There is too much at stake for immaturity and bitterness to ruin the best chance we have at bringing about change in America.
Please do the right thing, folks.
OBAMA-BIDEN '08
I'm sick of hearing about 18 million people who voted for Hillary.
12 million of them will vote for Obama, the rest are bigots.
As far as her help with her campaign debt? 2 or 3 months of Bill's speeches should take care of that.
Your shrill harpy lost the race. Her winning would be Sean Hannity's wet dream and the only way the Democrats could lose in the fall.
Not Hillary is entitled to get a spot on the ballot, we, the 18 mio voters who made her our #1 choice for president, are entitled to see her name there.
Of course I will be fine even after Mr. Obama slammed me into my face. And each of the other 18 mio Hillary friends will be fine too. But will Mr. Obama be fine after the election?
We do not need Mr. Obama. But Mr. Obama needs us.
PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE HILLARY CLINTON 18 MILLION SUPPORTERS?
SINCE WHEN DOES THE PRESUMPTIVE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE HAVE To SEEK OUT ADVICE FROM THE LOSER, SINCE WHEN DOES HE HAVE TO SEEK OUT ADVICE FROM PAST PRESIDENTS?
When was this WRITTEN IN TO DEMOCRATIC POLICIES?
You know, people are talking about this being a HISTORIC PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, and they are pointing to the AFRICAN/AMERICAN AND A WOMAN in the running reasons, but I think that there is another reason that this should GO DOWN IN THE HISTORY BOOKS.
This is, as far as I CAN REMEMBER, THE ONLY PRES. ELECTION, where many SUPPORTERS of a PREVIOUS CANDIDATE are attempting to HOLD THEIR COUNTRY FOR RANSOM.
I REALLY HOPE, that yes, this all goes down in the HISTORY BOOKS, but I would like to see ALL OF THE ISSUES DOCUMENTED, including the FACT that the PRES. NOMINEE is told that HE/SHE SHOULD HAVE ASKED one of the losing candidates, and past Presidents for advice ON PICKING HIS VICE PRESIDENT running mate!
If this was not so shallow and obvious, it would be FUNNY but FUNNY IT IS NOT!
When are Sen. Clinton's die hard supporters going to get over this and STOP HOLDING AMERICA FOR RANSOM?
By the way, have THEY PAID OFF HER DEBT YET?
Hillary Clinton and her supporters demanded that her name be placed in nomination at the Democratic National Convention. Obama agreed. Clinton's supporters can't have it both ways. If she and her supporters still consider her an active candidate for President of the United States she can't be Obama's pick to be his Vice Presidential nominee. It would be presumptuous of him to ask her and it is presumptuous of her supporters to believe that she can be actively pursuing both offices.
let's see here.....
You're going to decline to support HIllary's party in favor of the man who comes back from 'nam, cheats on his wife, then divorces her for the 21 year old rich woman?
Because Obama isn't respectful to women's right?
Riiiiiight. I'm buying that. But I do have this bridge in Brooklyn to unload. Interested?
I am not going to vote for Obama.
He has lost the chance to get Clintons' Supporters.
I am going to vote for Green Party candidate.
Hillary has been vetted through this entire process and more, so to speak. There was nothing new to be learned by vetting her again as a potential VP Nominee.
Those of you who will do everthing in your power to see that Obama fail are defeating the purpose of why you were supporting the Decomcratic party and Hilary in the first place. Did it ever occur to you that Hillary may at this point have something else in mind for herself like being a Supreme Court Justice. The presidency is for 8 years. Being appointed as a Judge is for a lifetime. I think she has made herself a sweet deal on side for something else, because she does not seem unhappy, it is just you Hillary-ites that just can't let go. She seems to have.
it just surprises me that some of you clinton supporters forgets what the republicns have done to this nation & would vote for mccain just for spite? this country is litterally being bought by foreign nations, such as china, just so they can fill the pockets of the already too rich. wise up & think about your children & grandchildren. thanks for letting me comment.-elmo