August 23rd, 2008
05:00 PM ET
15 years ago

Some in Clinton circle 'outraged'

[cnn-photo-caption image= [cnn-photo-caption image= caption="Some in Clinton's inner-circle are outraged."](CNN) - Even as Hillary Clinton praised the newly-minted Democratic presidential ticket Saturday, some in her circle are furious Barack Obama did not appear to give the New York Democrat serious consideration for the No. 2 spot, or even ask for her consultation on the matter.

"Set aside that Obama said she'd be on anybody's short list, set aside anybody's feelings on whether she was deliberately snubbed and the pros and cons of whether it should be her," a former Clinton strategist told CNN's Candy Crowley. "Focus on the politics of it and you have about a quarter of Clinton loyalists still not joining the caravan…for God's sake, not to even make a show of taking her seriously is flatly stupid."

A top Clinton advisor also told CNN they were "outraged," over how the process was conducted.

"You can't put [Obama VP vetters] Eric Holder and Caroline Kennedy on an hour plane ride to Chappaqua just to check the box? They should have done it just for the optics," this person said. "Barack never even said to her, 'Here's how I envision the job'– not one discussion with her about [the position]."

"They thought her supporters were mad before? They are really mad now," this person also said. We knew it was never going to happen but you would have thought they might at least make a show of it."

Former Clinton strategist Paul Begala echoed similar frustrations on CNN Friday night.

"I think there are a lot of Hillary voters who are going to say, 'Hey, wait a minute, man You said you were going to put her on the short list. You know, you didn't even vet her. You didn't call her. You didn't seek her advice,'" Begala said. "By the way, he didn't seek President Clinton's advice either. He's actually the guy who I think picked the best vice president in American history. You would think maybe you would sort of check in with him."

Meanwhile, two sources familiar with Obama's VP search tell CNN's Roland Martin Clinton was very much under consideration, and it's wrong for anyone to suggest that she wasn't.

One of the sources noted the Clintons have lived a very public life, and it's inconceivable for anyone to think that there really is more that needs to be learned from them by requesting additional paperwork, citing the release of documents by her during the primary season.

The other source said both Holder and Kenndey are very familiar with Sen. Clinton and that there was substantive and lengthy conversations among the Obama team with regards to Clinton as vice president.

soundoff (226 Responses)
  1. MJ

    What a lazy article. "Some people" is a lazy way to create an article that can't be checked. Didn't you go to journalism school? If your "sources" can't be named, they shouldn't be included in your article.

    If the Clintonites vote for McSame, they deserve what they get. Four more years of Bush.

    August 23, 2008 06:15 pm at 6:15 pm |
  2. JB

    Has anyone in the democratic party realized why they haven't had hold of the white house in so long? They can't even get along among themselves, how anyone expect them to bring the whole nation/world together? They had so much potential this year and threw it down the tubes. Voting for McCain just because Hillary didn't get a look at VP? Seriously?

    August 23, 2008 06:23 pm at 6:23 pm |
  3. Puffy

    $2 times 18millions = 36 mill please just send her 2 dollard cheek incy of u and come talk ur sh...t. PUMAS u hear me????

    August 23, 2008 06:29 pm at 6:29 pm |
  4. William Sprus

    Obama will lose. Hillary will not be to blame. Obama will have to take responsibility himself! NoBama!

    August 23, 2008 06:29 pm at 6:29 pm |
  5. Willow, in Iowa

    I have heard through various sources that HRC didn't want to be vetted for VP, because they would have to investigate Clinton's foundation, etc. And neither Clinton wanted that investigated. It sounds logical to me.

    August 23, 2008 06:29 pm at 6:29 pm |
  6. Jay Michigan

    As a life-long Democrat, I was really watching the VP choice this year. All me fears and concerns that Obama is not ready for the position, could have been eliminated with a proper vetting of top tier VP candidates. Instead he stuck with the status quo (no change here) by refusing to accept that Hillary garnered as much support as he did. I expected more from a candidate that preaches change and trys to appear so progressive! The party is all about gender bias and I'm no longer a Democrat! I will not vote for this ticket and sadly, I feel good about it.

    August 23, 2008 06:29 pm at 6:29 pm |
  7. Tom

    To all the PUMA "democrats" and professional hangers-on who were hoping for a cushy job in DC if HRC got the VP nod:

    Boo hoo.

    Clinton's team of back-biting campaign managers are the ones who took what should have been a winning campaign and turned into a short-sighted quest for personal glory and the promise of a big payday. They're the ones to blame, not Obama. Get over it, already.

    August 23, 2008 06:30 pm at 6:30 pm |
  8. On the fence

    As a woman and entrepreneur, I hoped to finally see a woman in the white house - which would have meant a major change, not empty posturing. I am concerned about the environment and savvy enough to know oil drilling is not going to help anyone except oil companies. We need alternate energy and this country has the capital and innovative capabilities to implement it. So both parties lost my vote when they endorsed off shore drilling, which is a major backward move for oil. I'm disappointed because as a baby boomer, I thought our generation was going to make a difference - a real difference – by this point in history. I hope candidates come out more strongly to support alternative energy sources, stand firm to protect what little is left of our precious natural resources and implement Medicare for All - so that citizens of the USA are guaranteed the same quality health care that virtually every other developed country already offers their tax payers. US medical care should be as good as Canada's. Canada has a good system and we can very easily create the same medical system in this country except private insurance companies will fight and lobby like mad to prevent that from ever happening. Wake up folks before it is your own life and welfare being weighed against the insurance profit margin! I wish I had a candidate to vote for in 2008. So far, I'm still on the fence and wish someone had the fortitude to take on big oil, private health insurance and get this country back on track. America is such a great place, but today it is being run by major corporations whose agenda benefits no one in the long run because the quality of life is slipping.

    August 23, 2008 06:30 pm at 6:30 pm |
  9. Tonya

    Hillary Clinton fought a good fight, but she lost FAIR AND SQUARE!!! So from where I'm sitting that means no one OWES her anything!!! She ran and SHE LOST, end of story. I'm having a really hard time trying to understand why anyone would be SILLY enough to think she is OWED anything. How RIDICULOUS!!! Its time for this SMALL, MINORITY of people to stop whining like children, grow up, and be honest with themselves. The reason they are not going to vote for Obama has more to do with his skin color that with Hillary. You'll feel a lot better if you just ADMIT IT!!!! STOP using Hillary as an excuse! If you REALLY cared about Hillary Clinton, you would want the party to come together because this silliness doesn't help her, its going to hurt her if she decides to run again. With friends like you, who needs enemies???

    August 23, 2008 06:30 pm at 6:30 pm |
  10. Ryan

    What a bunch of cry-babies. Now what are they going to try to do, split the parties vote towards McCain? That'd look swell if she ever ran for office with the democratic party again. Maybe she should start her own party, or better yet just fade into anonymity...

    August 23, 2008 06:31 pm at 6:31 pm |
  11. Clear as day

    Obama is not a puppet of Hillary. She has lost the nomination. Get over it. If it had been the other way around, she would not have taken him as a VP either. In addition, she is still leaving her name on the nomination list for the convention - and she talks about wanting to reunite the party?

    August 23, 2008 06:32 pm at 6:32 pm |
  12. Ron C

    Why should Hillary be on ballot? I supported her but she lost. Take your ball and go home. Turn back on your party and look forward to 4 more years of Bush policies and arrogance towards our allies.

    August 23, 2008 06:32 pm at 6:32 pm |
  13. JPFL

    Consider that some of the "18 million" that voted for Clinton were republicans attempting to sabotage the primaries, knowing McCain could beat Hillary.

    It's amazing to me that anyone would abandonded their principles and vote for the polar opposite candidate because they are a sore loser.

    August 23, 2008 06:32 pm at 6:32 pm |
  14. Carlos

    I'm very dissapointed on Barak choice ,i was considering to vote for him , i was hoping he choose Hillary Clinton , i knew that was the ticket to win the presindency, even if they say she was in ther consideration list i know Obama deep in his heart knows that Hillary
    was going to give him him the white House . She would have been a
    good VP that at any moment she could run the country along
    with a good Advisor Bill Clinton who left America in good financial
    standing went he left office , I have not been a big Barack fan but i was willing to support the Democratic ticket now ,even if i did not want 4 more years of Replubican my vote will go to the republican Party.
    wish you all the good luck Mr.Obama kiss your White House Dream good buy.

    August 23, 2008 06:32 pm at 6:32 pm |
  15. johnnytarmac

    Why does Obama need to acquiesce to the very people who would do anything to make him appear weak? Obama is our leader because he is strong, able, and intelligent, so don't think you can intimidate him with your childish threats. Grow up because you'll need to get on board for the next eight years and participate in the politics of inclusiveness.

    Obama-Biden 08!

    August 23, 2008 06:38 pm at 6:38 pm |
  16. No Way

    Why would Barack EVER have considered Hilary?

    I'm not a Dem, but one thing I know, the Clintons' in NO WAY would have had his back. If anything, I knife would be in his back. Is Hilary his friend? Is she someone he can trust? Do you go to "bed" with your enemies? Then why should he?

    Barack is intelligent, I'm sure. Therefore, he is well aware whom not be bring into his immediate camp. You Hilary loyalist, put your money where your mouth is. Pay off "oh girls" debt, and then sit down and SHUT up. And if you must go with McCain, do so. But just be quiet, respectful, and please go away. Puleeze!!!

    August 23, 2008 06:38 pm at 6:38 pm |
  17. fantastiksports


    why would you have voted for hillary in the first place?

    adding hillary would have been the ultimate cop-out.

    uniting the party. false.

    do you think someone who is so for change would overlook negative campaigning and general stupidity and go for 4 more years of Clinton?

    Obama's "arrogance" is actually intelligence.


    August 23, 2008 06:49 pm at 6:49 pm |
  18. jenniforhillary

    We are outraged by the DNC's actions. Barrack Hussein Obama is an inexperienced, unvetted, 143 day old Senator with a spotty voting record, highly questionable religious connections, and quite a few criminal friends. He would still be a man lacking everything except the resume of someone who should be investigated by the local, state, and national police force but for the DNC propping up this DIRTY empty shirt. The DNC has shamed itself, and for the first time in my life I am ashamed to be a Democrat. I will be voting Republican this year, straight ticket in fact, to state for the record that I am more than outraged–I have torn up my Democratic membership card and after this year I will only vote Independent and NEVER vote Democrat again. I'm taking my money, my vote, and my America back!

    August 23, 2008 07:02 pm at 7:02 pm |
  19. real dem

    Awww I feel sorry for the hillary supporters, someone took there candy and they can't get over it. Well, she lost, and O'bama didn't steal (pathetic excuses) the election and the DNC didn't hand the nomination to him, THE PEOPLE VOTED FOR HIM AND HE WON AND HE CHOSE WHO HE WANTED, SO EITHER GET OVER IT AND STAY TRUE TO YOUR PARTY OR JUST DON'T VOTE. BTW, YOU PROBABLY VOTED FOR BUSH SO WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT YOU? YOU DON'T WANT CHANGE, ALL YOU WANT I THE SAME AND THAT'S A SHAME.


    August 23, 2008 07:02 pm at 7:02 pm |
  20. Bobby Hussein Copley

    Thank God! Now they can stop pretending to be Democrats and join the Republicans and McCain can appoint Supreme Court justices that will overturn Roe v. Wade! YAYYYY!

    August 23, 2008 07:03 pm at 7:03 pm |
  21. Judy

    I am not voting for Obama or McCain. I will be exercising my right to vote in the great USA and my choice will be written in. Her name is Hillary Clinton.

    August 23, 2008 07:11 pm at 7:11 pm |
  22. Paul

    If i hear about her 18 million votes one more time, im going to peuk..
    Why dont the 18 million go donate to pay off her debt first???

    August 23, 2008 07:11 pm at 7:11 pm |
  23. John Proche, Virginia

    I think probably the big problem in selecting Hillary was the lesbian question. The country is just not ready for that yet. If that could have been resolved to everyone's satisfaction, then I think she would be the next vice president. However, now she is finished because Obama if he wins will be president for 8 years and she will be too old, if he loses he will probably be the front runner for 2012. She is totally out of luck, she should have been upfront from the start and addessed the lesbian issue.

    August 23, 2008 07:11 pm at 7:11 pm |
  24. Ally

    Hillary will best be known as the one who divided the Democratic Party and gave us 4 more years of Republican rule. Too bad, the Democrats had a good chance of taking back the White House.....

    August 23, 2008 07:11 pm at 7:11 pm |
  25. Molly

    Like Biden – but – I still will NOT vote for obama – he is NOT qualified and is a FRAUD. He should of picked Hillary Clinton – she is the best person to lead our country – guess the obama gang will see that in November when Clinton's 18 Million voters turn out for McCain.
    This is yet another slap to Hillary – and her supporters – 3:00AM –
    Really??? He could of at least made it look like he thought she was a good choice – his entire campaign is one big staged show – he could of pulled this off – for Unity sake!

    August 23, 2008 07:11 pm at 7:11 pm |
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