Some in Clinton circle 'outraged'
[cnn-photo-caption image= [cnn-photo-caption image= http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/08/23/art.clintonsupp.ap.jpg caption="Some in Clinton's inner-circle are outraged."](CNN) - Even as Hillary Clinton praised the newly-minted Democratic presidential ticket Saturday, some in her circle are furious Barack Obama did not appear to give the New York Democrat serious consideration for the No. 2 spot, or even ask for her consultation on the matter.
"Set aside that Obama said she'd be on anybody's short list, set aside anybody's feelings on whether she was deliberately snubbed and the pros and cons of whether it should be her," a former Clinton strategist told CNN's Candy Crowley. "Focus on the politics of it and you have about a quarter of Clinton loyalists still not joining the caravan…for God's sake, not to even make a show of taking her seriously is flatly stupid."
A top Clinton advisor also told CNN they were "outraged," over how the process was conducted.
"You can't put [Obama VP vetters] Eric Holder and Caroline Kennedy on an hour plane ride to Chappaqua just to check the box? They should have done it just for the optics," this person said. "Barack never even said to her, 'Here's how I envision the job'– not one discussion with her about [the position]."
"They thought her supporters were mad before? They are really mad now," this person also said. We knew it was never going to happen but you would have thought they might at least make a show of it."
Former Clinton strategist Paul Begala echoed similar frustrations on CNN Friday night.
"I think there are a lot of Hillary voters who are going to say, 'Hey, wait a minute, man You said you were going to put her on the short list. You know, you didn't even vet her. You didn't call her. You didn't seek her advice,'" Begala said. "By the way, he didn't seek President Clinton's advice either. He's actually the guy who I think picked the best vice president in American history. You would think maybe you would sort of check in with him."
Meanwhile, two sources familiar with Obama's VP search tell CNN's Roland Martin Clinton was very much under consideration, and it's wrong for anyone to suggest that she wasn't.
One of the sources noted the Clintons have lived a very public life, and it's inconceivable for anyone to think that there really is more that needs to be learned from them by requesting additional paperwork, citing the release of documents by her during the primary season.
The other source said both Holder and Kenndey are very familiar with Sen. Clinton and that there was substantive and lengthy conversations among the Obama team with regards to Clinton as vice president.
She was never considered for several reasons: 1. she wants to be there if he falls to say I told you so and then try again in 2012, 2. she brings too many negatives aboard and would galvanize the republican base, 3. Obama's team would have to search through tons of clinton baggage and look at the donors for the Clinton library, 4. she doesn't even want the job!!! You Hillary supporters need to get over it now; she wasn't snubbed. If you care any one bit about what Hillary and her policies stood for then you are absolute fool to vote McCain. Does McCain care about abortion rights? Does McCain care at all for gay rights? Does McCain care to bring the troops home? Does McCain care for equal pay? does mccain care for universal healthcare? NO he doesn't. Wake up and smell the coffee
The Clinton whiners have a choice – Obama/Biden or McCain/Whoever. Both Clinton and Obama went through the process and Obama won. He is the nominee. Now, it is the duty of every Democrat to support Obama/Biden. If they do not, either McCain will be elected or they will find themselves out of the loop for four, possibly eight, years.
About Hilliary's debt. Last I saw, it was about $22M of which $11M is what she owes to herself – that part is hers along. As to the remaining approx $11M, she and Bill can combine their resources and pay it off within a year or two. She knew the risk.
One major reason Obama did not pick Hilliary is Bill. Bill would have somehow ingrained himself in the Obama administration and Obama did not want that.
Tomorrow is not promised to anyone, you can be here one day and gone the next day my point is why are you Hillary Supporters so worked up on the fact that she wasn't picked fot the V.P and you keep screaming when Obama looses it will give Hillary a chance to run in 4 years you don't know if you would be living in 4 years so why not vote for a true Dem. this year instead of waiting 4 more years IF YOU WANT TO SEE GOD LAUGH THEN TELL HIM YOUR PLANS.
OBAMA/BIDEN "08
Can people in the Clinton "inner circle" really be this arrogant? Disappointment sure but outrage? Seriously? I thought this election was about the future of America and yet Clinton's cronies can only think about themselves. Simply disgusting.
Anyone who is ignorant enough to call Obama arrogant for choosing someone who isn't a beltway insider with a husband who carries a ton of political baggage should educate themselves a little more and stop trying to be involved with politics until you do. If you're one of the people acting like an infantile crybaby throwing a tantrum and saying you're going to vote for the other side because you didn't get exactly what you wanted I hope the Republican you vote for wins and stacks the Supreme Court with Conservatives who will strip your Liberties away (beginning with abortion) so you can cry and whine and moan about how politics isn't fair.
In the meantime, stop coming to these sites and proving what an ignoramus you are.
I adore Hillary, but I'm still trying to figure out why her supporters think that Barack needed her input on who he should choose for VP? Give me a break! I'm so sick of her suppoprters throwing out the word disrespect. Please shut up and sit this election out.
Everyone who supports Hilary and will vote for MCCain should now give her some money to pay her debt . If each of those 18 million give one dollar , that will be 18 million dollars. I will be able to understand their support now .
And next ask themselves if Hilary will cast her vote for Mc Cain in November?
obama just proved to me that he is no John Kennedy. All the obama's voters that dislike Hillary just remember that joe biden said the same thing about obama's inexperience and his inability to be a good president and being amazed that he is so clean and articulate . I 'm a registered democrat but i will switch to independent . i will not vote mc cain i might be staying home and wait for the obambis to win the election without the clinton voters.Also Roland you always said since day one that obama will never pick Hillary . You said it to cafferty and i have the tapes of you saying that. Stop taking us as kids telling us that Senator Clinton was under serious consideration as veep by the obama campaign.She was not. Good luck obama you just hand the election to mccain by letting your ego cloud any common sense of political analysis. it is just sad that every four year Democrats always shouting themselves on the foot.
Funny, the Clintonistas wanted to "make a show" of thinking about Hillary. One of the many lovely things about Obama is that he doesn't even have the cynicism to "make a show" of doing something he has no intention of doing. That's why he's where he is and Hillary is where she is. What a joy!
Originally I wanted Hillary for Pres, then for vp but after seeing how nasty and destructive her supporters (PUMAs) were and how she failed to show leadership & rein them in I can't see how she could be vp and really question whether she should be in government.
She's lost my respect
It is clear after reading these comments that a good many of the Hillary supporters are actually Republicans trying to keep this nonsense going.
If Hillary had not taken the dark low road in the primary perhaps she might be the candidate right now or at least might have been under consideration. Really, would you hire the mugger that stole your watch and wallet to be your financial adviser?
Its amazing – are all the residual PUMAs 7 years old or what?
Her supporters SHOULD be outraged. It's not like he ran away with the nomination. He BARELY squeaked by into the nomination and then decides to snub the other candidate who garnered within 1% as many popular votes as he did? It's a big gamble. Even for someone as arrogant as Obama.
This arrogant fool has sealed it with millions of Hillary supporters. Releasing his choice at 3AM by text message is a direct slap at Hillary. Not only did this clown not even consider her, he decided to make his pick known in a sarcastic, mean spirited way. Totally unnecessary. How dumb can you get? This is the guy that wants to be President? Give me a break. I'm voting for Mccain.
Try "setting aside" your feelings of entitlement and anger, and work towards victory. These temper tantrums are immature and stand a greater chance of losing the Democrats the election than McCain.
MOst of the people said they would not vote for Obama because he didnt have any foreign policy experience what foreign policy experience does Hillary clinton have??? Hillary lost the nomination it is up to Obama to pick someone to HELP him run the country not give . HER HUSBAND HELPED HER LOSE THE NOMINATION AND HE ALSO HELPED HER LOSE THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION... THIS GUY WOULDN'T EVEN SPEAK TO OBAMA... WHY WOULD YOU DEAL WITH 8 YEARS OF THIS... IS THE HISTORY MAKING OF HILLARY CLINTON AS IMPORTANT AS EATING AND WARMING YOUR HOUSE, LIVING IN YOUR HOUSE, KEEPING AND GETTING A JOB i THINK NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!
To the obama gang here – NO – Hillary Clinton did not lose – she WON the popular vote. Obama blocked all re-votes in FL & MI – – she would of won, but – now – he wants to count all those loyal voters.
What a FRAUD – always for his own political gain – and the DNC allowed him to STEAL the nomination – but – without the MILLIONS of Hillary's VOTERS – he will NEVER win.
Because Obama is weak on foreign policy, he needed the right person to boost his credentials. Hillary can pull blue collar workers but what foreign policy experience does she have? I've been reading up on Biden because I didn't know what kind of person he was. After listening to him slam Bush on Iraq and with 35 years experience in this area, it was a natural choice for Obama.
You can have 4 to 8 years of change with strong leadership, or you can have 4 to 8 more of McBush. With the way our country is headed, the right thing is to vote democrat.
YOU PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO SUPPORT HILLARY - by making her an integral part of the Obama administration. Even though she is not the VP pick, she can climb the ladder to senate majority leader and still make a difference for OUR COUNTRY.
If you're a Clinton supporter turned McCain supporter....you'll be remembered in 2012 as the "sour grapes" that gave us McBush another 4 years...Clinton, with that listed on herresume won't have a chance in 2012 either.
TOO BAD !!!
OBAMA/ BIDEN 08'/12'
Biden said clearly that Obama is not ready to lead. Enough said 🙂
Well, as for me, I'm delighted with Obama's pick! I'm sooo sick of the Clintons (both Hillary And Bill). Now maybe they can fade into the background and hopefully not be heard from too much. Hillary supporters...get a life! She lost! I don't think Obama owes them anything.
There sure are a lot of mad middle-aged white woman walking around America these days.
Go party and celebrate that we live in a democratic society.
It is thoroughly disgusting to see the comments from the bitter Hillary supporters. I'm convinced you were never Democrats in the first place. To threaten to stay home or vote for McCain is endorsing the policies of the Republican party. You'll be the first to complain when conservative judges are appointed & Roe v Wade overturned. You should all be ashamed.
Obama didn't need to ask for Hillary Clinton's consultation on the matter because he is smarter than she is and he cannot trust her to give him good advice. Clinton wants to harm Obama.