August 23rd, 2008
05:00 PM ET
15 years ago

Some in Clinton circle 'outraged'

[cnn-photo-caption image= [cnn-photo-caption image= caption="Some in Clinton's inner-circle are outraged."](CNN) - Even as Hillary Clinton praised the newly-minted Democratic presidential ticket Saturday, some in her circle are furious Barack Obama did not appear to give the New York Democrat serious consideration for the No. 2 spot, or even ask for her consultation on the matter.

"Set aside that Obama said she'd be on anybody's short list, set aside anybody's feelings on whether she was deliberately snubbed and the pros and cons of whether it should be her," a former Clinton strategist told CNN's Candy Crowley. "Focus on the politics of it and you have about a quarter of Clinton loyalists still not joining the caravan…for God's sake, not to even make a show of taking her seriously is flatly stupid."

A top Clinton advisor also told CNN they were "outraged," over how the process was conducted.

"You can't put [Obama VP vetters] Eric Holder and Caroline Kennedy on an hour plane ride to Chappaqua just to check the box? They should have done it just for the optics," this person said. "Barack never even said to her, 'Here's how I envision the job'– not one discussion with her about [the position]."

"They thought her supporters were mad before? They are really mad now," this person also said. We knew it was never going to happen but you would have thought they might at least make a show of it."

Former Clinton strategist Paul Begala echoed similar frustrations on CNN Friday night.

"I think there are a lot of Hillary voters who are going to say, 'Hey, wait a minute, man You said you were going to put her on the short list. You know, you didn't even vet her. You didn't call her. You didn't seek her advice,'" Begala said. "By the way, he didn't seek President Clinton's advice either. He's actually the guy who I think picked the best vice president in American history. You would think maybe you would sort of check in with him."

Meanwhile, two sources familiar with Obama's VP search tell CNN's Roland Martin Clinton was very much under consideration, and it's wrong for anyone to suggest that she wasn't.

One of the sources noted the Clintons have lived a very public life, and it's inconceivable for anyone to think that there really is more that needs to be learned from them by requesting additional paperwork, citing the release of documents by her during the primary season.

The other source said both Holder and Kenndey are very familiar with Sen. Clinton and that there was substantive and lengthy conversations among the Obama team with regards to Clinton as vice president.

soundoff (226 Responses)
  1. Elizabeth

    Get over it, Hillary supporters! Get over it! Hillary doesn't hold a candle to Biden.

    Obama/Biden 08 and 12

    August 23, 2008 09:49 pm at 9:49 pm |
  2. Mary

    i completely understand being upset that your candidate didn't win and wasn't chosen as vp. You've got every right to be upset. But STOP TRYING TO HOLD THE REST OF US HOSTAGE! Any self-respecting woman who will really turn around and out of pure spite vote for a candidate that wants to take away every right she has to make choices about her own body needs her feminism revoked. Do what you will. But remember – your children are going to pay the price.

    August 23, 2008 09:50 pm at 9:50 pm |
  3. The Nightingale Sings in Berkley Square

    Well Mr. Dean got his wish. A dream team. A nightmare dream team.

    Biden says that the EGO isn't ready for prime time and so do I.

    Obama is risky and it would be a gamble to put in office.

    August 23, 2008 09:50 pm at 9:50 pm |
  4. Dorothy M. Oliver, Greensboro, NC

    Hillary backers. Don't poison the well. If you do, Hillary's chance of making future contributions may die of thirst.

    August 23, 2008 09:50 pm at 9:50 pm |
  5. Carl

    You know, I've been a big fan of the Clintons' even before they were in the White House (originally from Arkansas) and still am. But their "supporters" really need to get over themselves!! YOU are not the only people in the Democratic party! I mean ever since Obama won the primaries, they've been crying about him not helping her raise money and now that he didn't pick her for VP and worse than that he didn't give her a vetting process. Come on, she's been in the national spotlight for almost 20 years what is there to vet!! Thanks to the "right wing conspiracy" we already know just about everything about her and found out even more during the primaries. I still do love the Clintons and what they've done for the country and the please get over yourselves and do what is best for the party and more importantly for the country and make sure we don't have another 4 years McBush politics.

    August 23, 2008 09:50 pm at 9:50 pm |
  6. Georgian

    This is so ridiculous! How can you call yourselves a Democrat and just because one Democrat won over the other you will vote Republican. The Clintons are not entitled to anything. Obama made the decision(along with his advisors) for Biden to be on the ticket as the VP nominee. He considered areas that he had been criticized on and tried to strengthen those areas. For those who say that Biden spoke against Obama and he was stupid to pick him...where have you been for the past few months prior to Obama's win?? Clinton all but slandered Obama's name and Did you PUMA'S forget that Bill was impeached and comes with plenty of controversy that the Replublicans had a field day with 10 years ago. Give me a break get over yourselves. Clinton's debt has to be larger for paying all her supporters to keep telling reporters they will not vote for Obama since he won and now since she is not the VP nominee. Because that is the only way I could see you PUMA'S holding on to this idiocy.

    August 23, 2008 09:50 pm at 9:50 pm |
  7. Stephen Bergie

    It's going to be a very close race and in the end, Obama will regret not having picked Senator Clinton. Unfortunately, he just can't win without her supporters–there are too many of them.

    August 23, 2008 09:50 pm at 9:50 pm |
  8. JMarie

    Hey: at least he is honest. He did not play the game of appearing to consider HRC...he's an honest guy. She was so divisive that there was no chanced she should be VP (and Bill makes it even less palatable). He was honest. What a fresh concept.

    August 23, 2008 09:50 pm at 9:50 pm |
  9. bernard mahoney

    i notce obama 44 mcain 42 in the polls cnn you are makeing these push polls up and you are telling laies about the polls to despratly help the gop stop telling lies about the polls we all know obama has a 20 point lead if you dont use push polling .

    August 23, 2008 09:50 pm at 9:50 pm |
  10. tennisguypitt

    I'm happy Biden was chosen to be Obama's VP. He would bring tremendous foreign policy experience to the table. It's a perfect combination.

    You "Clinton Supporters" need to shut up and grow up. She lost the nomination fairly. I'm pretty sure Hillary didn't want the VP position anyway. If McBush wins this year, Hillary will be held responsible and she doesn't stand a chance next election.

    By the way... why don't you PUMA babies donate a dollar to Hillary? GROW UP! If you really do something like this, you deserve a man like Johnny McBush.

    Obama/Biden(!) '08!

    August 23, 2008 09:50 pm at 9:50 pm |
  11. A. News

    We're still waiting for the announcement that PUMA and other Hillary supporters have made plans to retire her debt. Until that happens, go do whatever whining, nagging, ignorant, narrow-minded people do when they can't have their way!

    August 23, 2008 09:51 pm at 9:51 pm |
  12. Phylis

    I can't believe any woman who supported Senator Clinton's historic candidacy would be foolish enough to vote for McCain out of spite! Don't you realize he will get at least two supreme court nominations if he wins? You foolish, spiteful creatures will flush years of progress away on women's rights if he wins and you help him.

    Grow up and act in your own best interests!

    August 23, 2008 09:51 pm at 9:51 pm |
  13. brett

    im so sick of u clinton supporters. get over it she lost. face it. clinton knew that if she went after obama hard that it would bite her in the butt. i dont know if obama will win but he has a better chance than if he picked clinton. most in the south wont vote for a african american what makes u people think that clinton would help. if anything he would lose votes. he made the right choice. for u clinton supporters who are gonna vote mccain you are a shame on the democratic party. get over it clinton lost. make the right choice and vote for obama. mccain is just another bush.

    August 23, 2008 09:51 pm at 9:51 pm |
  14. Nick

    I'm sorry but to say your a Democrat and now that your girl Hillary didnt win or get on the tickett, you say your going to vote for Mccain.........people that do this are voting for the person not the values that this person stands for, because Obama is more Hillary than Mccain is Hillary and voting for Mccain because she didnt win come on give your head a shake your being a child...

    August 23, 2008 09:51 pm at 9:51 pm |
  15. Bill

    I am glad that Senator Obama did not pick Hillary Clinton because when he losses and he will Hillary Clinton will be able to run in 2012. Also until today even MSNBC Chriss Mathews knows that Senator Obama cannnot win without the Hillary voters. I just loved it when he asked a Hillary Clinton voter would she be upset if she did not vote for Senator Obama and he lost. The guest stated I would not lose any sleep over it. That is also my feeling I will not lose a bit of sleep either. Remember it was the super delegates who gave Senator Obama over the top. Therefore the super delegates will be the ones that will not be able to sleep for the next four years. Giess what I will not be voting for Senator Obama either. I also will not lose any sleep over it either.

    August 23, 2008 09:51 pm at 9:51 pm |
  16. Lee

    If I were Obama,,,I would nt had selected Hillary even if I in the deserted Island and Hillary was the only other habitant...

    Hillary wants power! She wants to show she is da man! and her supporters would be angry anyways,,,the only way they would not be is if Obama step down and the democrat declARES the main candidate...

    So now they are boycotting,,,let me tell you,,,these fanatics never quit of them declared Al Gore, internet creator,,the best vice pres in US History! These people are delusional....

    August 23, 2008 09:52 pm at 9:52 pm |
  17. get over it

    PUMA = whining sore losers... emphasis on "losers."

    August 23, 2008 09:52 pm at 9:52 pm |
  18. Karen in Cape Cod

    Yea right, Obama was seriously considering Hillary! Believe that and I've got a bridge to sell you!

    August 23, 2008 09:52 pm at 9:52 pm |
  19. David in Illinois

    The Clinton backers are outraged? They're not going to vote for Obama? They STILL can't believe Hillary will not be president?

    August 23, 2008 09:53 pm at 9:53 pm |
  20. bill

    Amazing!!! Barack Hussein Obama actually picks the person who told us the he(Barack) isn't ready to be president. Maybe he mistook Bidens comments as a offer to provide on the job training.Will they give two state of the union addresses, one for domestic issues and one for foreign affairs. Does anyone remember the last president without foreign affairs experience. Well he screwed up both foreighn affairs as well as the economy. OOOOO meet WWWW.

    August 23, 2008 09:53 pm at 9:53 pm |
  21. Phil

    18 million pacifiers for sale. Only a buck!

    August 23, 2008 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
  22. Jeff

    If or when Obama loses, you better believe that Obama supporters will start a movement.

    It won't have a nice gimmicky name like "PUMA" . I was thinking something like "PIAB" for "Payback is a ___" or maybe PFTB for "Payback for the ____"

    August 23, 2008 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
  23. Fed Up with Politics


    Anyone figure out that this nomination of Joe Liden as VP has a familiar ring to it?

    Put Obama and Liden together on a ticket...have the (bleep) Democrats lost their minds?

    Those two together almost rhymes with Osama Bin Laden

    Obama (Bin) Liden

    Now that's a ticket I WON'T be voting for

    August 23, 2008 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
  24. T. Scarletti

    Hilary lost, deservedly so in running a devisive, negative, prejudiced campaign. Who is she that Obama has to consult with her? And her supporters seem to want to have McCain W. Bush get in the White house and continue the downward spiral of the USA. Obama needs to distance himself from the Clintons. They both showed their true colors and inner ugliness in this campaign. Obama should get a medal of honor for wanting to be the next President with all the insanity he faces if he's elected. We need to pray for America's future.

    August 23, 2008 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
  25. Brad IL.

    from the same state as Obama , he was crap as a state senator and he was crap as a U.S. Senator . That is the only reason why I and my Family will vote for John McCain . Hillary didn't have a whole lot more experiance than Obama but she had Bill. He had 8 great yrs. Obama has nothing but a angry Preacher and a skank wife. Live around Chicago for awhile and see where all your Tax dollars will go. More welfare than you can shake a stick at. John McCain has a good record for voting for what is right and we will take are chance with John . This will be the first for voting for a Republican but it is all about change , Right .

    August 23, 2008 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
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