Some in Clinton circle 'outraged'
[cnn-photo-caption image= [cnn-photo-caption image= http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/08/23/art.clintonsupp.ap.jpg caption="Some in Clinton's inner-circle are outraged."](CNN) - Even as Hillary Clinton praised the newly-minted Democratic presidential ticket Saturday, some in her circle are furious Barack Obama did not appear to give the New York Democrat serious consideration for the No. 2 spot, or even ask for her consultation on the matter.
"Set aside that Obama said she'd be on anybody's short list, set aside anybody's feelings on whether she was deliberately snubbed and the pros and cons of whether it should be her," a former Clinton strategist told CNN's Candy Crowley. "Focus on the politics of it and you have about a quarter of Clinton loyalists still not joining the caravan…for God's sake, not to even make a show of taking her seriously is flatly stupid."
A top Clinton advisor also told CNN they were "outraged," over how the process was conducted.
"You can't put [Obama VP vetters] Eric Holder and Caroline Kennedy on an hour plane ride to Chappaqua just to check the box? They should have done it just for the optics," this person said. "Barack never even said to her, 'Here's how I envision the job'– not one discussion with her about [the position]."
"They thought her supporters were mad before? They are really mad now," this person also said. We knew it was never going to happen but you would have thought they might at least make a show of it."
Former Clinton strategist Paul Begala echoed similar frustrations on CNN Friday night.
"I think there are a lot of Hillary voters who are going to say, 'Hey, wait a minute, man You said you were going to put her on the short list. You know, you didn't even vet her. You didn't call her. You didn't seek her advice,'" Begala said. "By the way, he didn't seek President Clinton's advice either. He's actually the guy who I think picked the best vice president in American history. You would think maybe you would sort of check in with him."
Meanwhile, two sources familiar with Obama's VP search tell CNN's Roland Martin Clinton was very much under consideration, and it's wrong for anyone to suggest that she wasn't.
One of the sources noted the Clintons have lived a very public life, and it's inconceivable for anyone to think that there really is more that needs to be learned from them by requesting additional paperwork, citing the release of documents by her during the primary season.
The other source said both Holder and Kenndey are very familiar with Sen. Clinton and that there was substantive and lengthy conversations among the Obama team with regards to Clinton as vice president.
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Hillary, America and the Democrats spoke to you when they chose Obama as the Democratic nominee. Its HIS choice for his VP. She would have been a horrible choice because she doesnt know how to sit back and let the PRESIDENT do his job. Stop complaining and try again in 2012.
Me and my family are Clinton supporters and we will vote in November 2008. Our votes and most of all our friends will vote for the next President Senator John Mc Cain. The Democrate party has fail us.
Obama abandoned his brother to a nearly penniless existence in Africa (less than $1.00 per day is what I read). I don't expect him to treat me any better.
I like to point out Obama supporters act exactly like little senseless children as well.
They get upset if any one talks bad about their god.
Obama might have beat hillary but lets face the fact she is a person no one in their right mind would vote for.
She will say or do anything just like her husband in order to get a vote.
For the person that believes Hillary is gracious and gives anyone a sense of her inner strength. I only have one thing to say to you get off the drugs.
Gracious is not what any one would call that woman.
Tom, ALBUQUERQUE, NM, I say to you and all those PUMA's and the racist of this country, go ahead, vote for McCain and you can kiss your homes, your jobs, your right to decide if you want an abortion, contiued high gas prices, your sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, sent into another war and your taxes raised why the rich get richer. Go ahead and cut off your nose to spite your face. John McCain is about as senile as Ronald Reagan was, sitting in the White House with Alheimers and Nancy Regan running the country in the end. John McCain is clearly losing his memory. He's a lyar and a womanizer, if he can't be faithful to his wives, what do you think he will do to this country. If McCain gets in, Jack Cafferty said it right, "you will get what you deserve".
Joe Biden knows he was wrong when he said that rubbish about not being ready to lead. Hillary knows she was wrong also. It was merely campaign rhetoric to blindside voters.Too bad John McCain's strategy is seemingly working to convince some of you. Especially since Rigged Warren's hoax of a discussion( and McCain's prepared impromptu deliveries questions he heard while in transit.
I really like Joe Biden. In fact, he was my second choice during the primary. However, I thought that Senator Obama missed a real opportunity to show he was the bigger person and to unify the party. The individuals that are for Senator Clinton are very displeased and honestly I would not blame them if they stayed at home. If Senator McCain picks Sec. of State Condi Rice the Republicans will continue to hold the Whitehouse.
i remember bill clinton saying he would campaign his heart out for the democratic primary winner , clinton is such a lair hes to busy with prostitutes and hookers and chaseing young skirt to campaign for obama . infact ive never seen bill clinton campaign hardout for anyone except a clinton , good point i thinkso .
I am sick and tired of the Hillary supporters feeling disrespected. Get the hell over it. We are in economic and international misery. They should make a commitment to support the man they think is best for this country. I don't care who they vote for. I just want them to close their pie hole and stop spewing their hatred across this earth.
David August 23rd, 2008 5:53 pm ET
I'm a Hillary supporter. I'm also a male supporter of P.U.M.A. I will write in for Hillary and do everything in my power to see that Obama loses. I don't like McCain, but in 2012, Hillary will be the Democratic nominee for President of the United States.
In your face, Obama.
David you and your family can go to iraq! cry about our economy if you vote for mccain....grow up cry baby!
No Hillary=No Vote & many others feel the same way.
Please people let's get it together. The Democratic party has a large tent. I am a 50+ year old female who grew up during the feminist movement. What I am seeing and hearing from all of these Hillary supporters is not what the feminist movement was all about. We rose and fell with dignity. We did not expect to get a seat at the table just because we were a woman or came in #2. We knew that we had to work for respect and then accept both our victories and our losses with dignity. There is nothing dignified about the way some of you are acting here. McCain does not support women's rights. That was and continues to be a part of what women's rights are about. Ask yourself, Are you willing to see Roe v Wade reversed or see us backtrack on equal pay or domestic violence? If you can answer yes then you should vote for McCain. I don't think that those of you who are still rational will be able to answer that question in the affirmative.
Obama/Biden '08
Consult either Clinton? I'm LLOL. She lost, the Clinton era is (thank goodness) finally over.
Time for all these 'mad' supporters to get over it and move on. Everyone else has.
I wonder how all of those Hillary Supporters, who have said that they are going to protest at the Convention, will feel, WHEN THEY GET THROWN IN TO THE WAREHOUSE/JAIL. This is really going to be very interesting, and very exciting. I cannot wait to see how many Clinton Supporters will be thrown into this JAIL! THIS SHOULD BE FUN!
Frank, thank you, I got a good chuckle out of your comment, but I think they are acting more like they are going through the terrible twos. It really IS TIME FOR THEM TO GET SOME SERIOUS TIME OUT?
It's more than just "some' that are not happy...just wait and see what the polls look like in a couple of months.
Everyone pretty much knew that Hilary and Obama would not work out, so why are you complaining now that it is offical? Moreover Hilary supporters will not vote for him but yet turn around and declare their vote vote to Mccain because you are mad? Another 4 years of this? Hopefully Clinton voters realize then they are talking about the people suffering from the current goverment, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU!!!. But hey, if you want to continue to live in poverty and complain, HEY GO AHEAD. Its going to be your house forclosed and your pathetic jobs going overseas.. Soccer moms..
Clinton supporters are making a joke of the election process and what democracy is all about. just of out spite they are going to go and vote for a guy who is if elected will exted the 4 years of war, economic slide, and the same dirty politics that have infected our country now. if McCain is elected and the country continues it's downfall then we can't blame the republicans or Mccain, the blame is going to fall squarely on the clintion supporters because they chose to vote for someone out of spite and their personal feelings instead of what really matter, THE ISSUES. They have made a mockary out of democracy, let's stop trying to spread democracry around the world and bring it back to american first. the clinton supporters who choose to vote for McCain just because they are angry a obama are the epitomy of everything that is wrong in the country, forgetting the issues and letting their irrational, greedy, and ignorance mentality drive the coutnry into this downward spiral. forget them, just like hilary and bill they need to shut up and go home, we don't need them. Obama/Bidden all way hilary and bill go away.
The some of the Clinton supporters who are outraged should get unraged and behind the winning Nominee like Hillary has done!
Their performance is totally ridiculous. I can understand to a point their disappointment but the point has been made long ago, it is now time to get on with reality like the rest of us. If you want to vote McCain or the Green Party than do it! But no need to make history in the process!
The republicans are laughting all the way to the white house about how they so easily control how the democracts pick there nominee for president. they want to go against obama,and they got want they wanted the weakest candidate and all they had to do was make everyone think that Hillary was the candidate,that they wanted ,reverse physcology.Worked like a charm,and who did the put agaist the dems worst choice why there worst choice and obama still lost the lead, so he pull out biden thinking that will unite the party. wont happen. Just like bush not a uniter but a divider,so When obama doesnot win it is noones fault but obamas and the dnc for making sure he was selected. I vote with my mind and my loyalty lies with my country not the party,so come nov Iwill vote but not for McCrazy or the devil advocate. By the to all Obama nut tis still a free country and freedom to speak and choose still exist. So if Clinton supports want to vent there choice , when Obama loses let see how you vent, just remember he lost the election and and no one else.
As a Democrat for 33 years I 'm very dissapointed with Obama's supporters and Obama's decision, I believe in my heart Obama couldv'e made history as the first black president and first women to become VP.
Obama stated he wants change but he chose someone in politics with the same politics as Clintons.
Hilllary has demostrated to be a true Democrat without a question, by being there for him right after the primaries were completed. I wonder if Obama would've done the same thing for Hillary?
Congratulations President McCain.
It's amazing how disgruntled and how silly these comments are about how Hillary wasn’t consider for VP. I can guaranteed she was closely and I mean very closely consider as a VP candidate. I think as for as tactical reasons she was Barack's choice for VP, but Barack wisely could not chose her because of strategic reasons, although he probably really wanted to. I think he put the country first in the reason why he could not chose Mrs. Clinton. I think Joseph Biden was the best candidate that Barack could have chosen because Mr. Biden fills more squares tactically and strategically for helping Mr. Obama consolidate a coalition to finally defeat Republicans in November.
What has Obama done? He blew it all away i cant believe it. He had a chance to unite the democrats with Hillary Clinton and instead he chose Biden as his choice. Bad move, no wonder Hillary Clinton supporters are angry for not only showing disrespect to Hillary Clinton but to Bill Clinton as well. Now i know why Bill Clinton was angry at Obama. Sounds like the choice of Obama Biden Laden. I do not want John McCain as president and i do not want Obama as the democratic nominee. He has failed to unite the party and disrespected 18 million people. Because of Obama's move he now officially failed to unite the democrats. This is a HUGE MISTAKE, i really cannot believe it. Obama is not qualified to run because he is inexperienced and is weak on foreign policy. Obama sadly has started a civil war within the democratic party, and quite frankly the only thing he has made long time democrats do as he promised "change" is make people "change their minds". From the looks of it i already hear a large portion of Clinton supporters will vote for McCain because of Obama's attitude. I hope that Obama changes his mind and takes off Biden and gives Clinton the number 2 spot. He is failing to unite the party. Sadly because of his choice of Biden he has divided the democrats. The fact that Obama has stated before that he would have direct talks with controversial leaders who are considered enemies of the United States is scary and not too mention the huge coincidence that OBAMA rhymes with OSAMA and Biden with Bin Laden?? OBAMA BIDEN LADEN ohh gee what a huge coincidence that these two are named after the worlds most famous terrorist!!
RE: Frank August 23rd, 2008 9:20 pm ET
"When my five year doesn't get is way, he whines, cries, and stamps his little feet, resulting in a spanking. 'c'linton supporters act exactly like little senseless children. They whine, cry and stamp their little feet because they don't get their way. Sounds like 'c'linton supporters need a nap, or a spanking."
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Just remember, we don't want to hear any whining and crying from you when, either Clinton wins the roll call vote and sends BO packing....or THE ENTIRE ELECTORAL MAP IS A ROSY REPUBLICAN RED ON ELECTION NIGHT. You might find yourself in need of a nap or a spanking yourself !! You are in a rapidly shrinking minority. Face the Facts!
Republicanos y demócratas, la misma torta: Todo para USA y nada para el resto del mundo, y mucho menos para hispano-américa"
Como dicen en Venezuela: "mismo 'musiú' con diferente cachimbo".
if Clinton's "people" read between the lines, or, better yet listened to her, they knew that she would never have accepted the VP vote. She wanted to be #1, and thats it.
I understand that many think that she should get "something" for her "effort". However, it's a democratic society, and Obama won the nomination. Live with it.
Turn to the GOP, and YOU will live with it, YOU will have something on your mind for then next four years, or beyond......... A question that internally will keep you asking yourself...........Why did i do that.
I'm 52, and, yes, we need a change to try to take control back to OUR COUNTRY. Look at the math, look at the GOP record over the past 8 years. Go ahead, vote for Mcbush, but don't you dare come back in four years and say that you made a mistake.