October 10th, 2008
10:34 AM ET
14 years ago

Biden to Palin: Don't lecture me on patriotism

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JEFFERSON CITY, Missouri (CNN) - Joe Biden Thursday night told Sarah Palin not to lecture him on patriotism, after weeks of attacks mocking him for his statement the wealthy should be patriotic and pay higher taxes because not enough has been asked of them.

"Sarah Palin had great fun saying Joe Biden thinks paying taxes is patriotic. Well, let me tell you what Joe Biden thinks," the Delaware senator said at an outdoor rally. "Joe Biden thinks that anybody who takes millions of dollars offshore to avoid paying their fair share is unpatriotic."

The Obama-Biden campaign has accused John McCain of saying publicly he would close offshore banking loopholes, but saying otherwise in private.

"That is not patriotic and it will stop, it will stop in an Obama-Biden administration! Enough! I've had it up to here! Don't lecture me on patriotism," shouted Biden, getting drowned out by the applause of his supporters. "I'm dead tired of being taken advantage of. I'm getting tired of it."

Biden also said he's had enough of the McCain camp's personal attacks on Obama, slamming the Arizona senator for violating the "ethics" of the old neighborhood for not having the courage to go after Obama's character in their debates the way he has in speeches and in television ads.

"In my neighborhood you want to say something about me, look me in the eye and tell me," said Biden. "Say it to me straight up. Say it to me head on. That's the code, that's the ethics! Say it to me! Ladies and gentlemen, I'm tired of losing, I'm tired of taking this stuff, I've had enough."

There has been a perceptible shift this week in Biden's approach to attacking the opposing ticket. Since Wednesday, he has been increasingly willing to take on Sarah Palin individually, instead of his earlier approach of lumping her in with McCain or ignoring her altogether.

Biden's comments on patriotism were the second time he returned Palin's fire Thursday. Earlier, in Liberty, Missouri, Biden attacked McCain's new mortgage plan, using Palin's quip from last week that she has been listening to Biden's speeches since the second grade, which was intended to paint him as a Washington insider.

"That's true," Biden responded. "But she was in sixth grade the last time John had a new idea."

However, in the second use of that line here in Jefferson City, Biden incorrectly said Palin had made those comments directly to him at their debate in St. Louis last Thursday, rather than at a Columbus, Ohio rally three days prior.

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soundoff (215 Responses)
  1. OMG

    Dont worry Joe, she dont know anything than picking up fights and you know what thats the reason why Johnny boy picked her. She is the dumbest women i have ever seen. Everyone at thier hearts know that, i mean repubs.

    October 10, 2008 09:47 am at 9:47 am |
  2. Roofin Reality, Houston, Tx.

    For a little different perspective on economic issues, check this out.
    Lyndon Johnson left with small surplus.
    Nixon left with small deficit.
    Ford left with slightly larger deficit.
    Carter left with slight larger deficit than Ford left but still under $100 million.
    Reagan got to $221 million deficit in 1986 and left with about $175 million deficit.
    Bush senior left with record $296 million deficit.
    Clinton took deficit to surplus by 1998. Clinton left $230 million SURPLUS.
    Bush, by 2003 had taken the surplus and squandered it to record of $300 million.
    Now sitting at $400 million and growing.
    This all from the Congressional Budget Office.

    If you notice something, it's Democratic Presidents who put together budgets which every American family has to follow as well. Sen. McCain is likely to fall in line with the rest of his Repulbican bretheren, and stay a sidekick to President Bush as he champions most (if not all) of the same economic policies as Pres. Bush.

    So, you decide what's patriotic. I believe it's running the gov't budget like I do my own – in the black, not in the red.

    October 10, 2008 09:47 am at 9:47 am |
  3. G. Robinson

    Palin -Schmalin!!! She's a Patriotic Idiot. Please go back to Alaska – ASAP.

    OBAMA/BIDEN 08-12

    October 10, 2008 09:48 am at 9:48 am |
  4. Uncle Sam

    The media seem more concerned about McCain's strategy than investigating Obama's radical ties.


    October 10, 2008 09:48 am at 9:48 am |
  5. mitch

    john mccain's campaign is the most UN-patriotic i have ever seen. the hate and anger they spew is un-american, and dangerous. every ad they run is a lie. i will never vote for another republican, ever. not even for town librarian!!

    October 10, 2008 09:48 am at 9:48 am |
  6. Michael

    You know what's unpatriotic? Being married to someone involved in trying to get Alaska to secede from America.

    October 10, 2008 09:48 am at 9:48 am |
  7. Anna

    Go, Joe Go.

    Oh by the way, CNN where is Jack. I miss him. I hope he's alright.

    October 10, 2008 09:48 am at 9:48 am |
  8. Puff

    What a blow hard!!! Just go away Joe, go back to Scranton.

    October 10, 2008 09:48 am at 9:48 am |
  9. phineas j whoopie

    When will the media discuss the Palin's participation in the Alaskan Independence Party (AIP) a separatist party that seeks succession from the USA? Todd was a member as recent as 2004 and Sarah sopke at their conference, via video feed, as late as 2008!! Why is this not considered unamerican? Please CNN do your job!

    October 10, 2008 09:48 am at 9:48 am |
  10. We Demand Our Country Back!

    I was at the Jefferson City rally sitting front row dead center and Joe is spot on about everything in his speech. It's time to turn the page alright...turn the page on the republicans!

    Obama/Biden '08

    October 10, 2008 09:49 am at 9:49 am |
  11. rusell

    I think I smell a laaaaaaaaaaaaannnnd slide !

    October 10, 2008 09:49 am at 9:49 am |
  12. Ken in NC

    I think "THAT ONE" is running a well managed campaign and staying on subject. It is clear he has surrounded himself with smart people and that is a sign of the level of his own intelligence. A really smart person seeks out smart people.

    I think there is a lesson to be learned here by Senator McCain and Six-Pack-Palin.

    October 10, 2008 09:49 am at 9:49 am |
  13. Andrew

    Keep talking about the issues Joe. All those two right wing haters can do is call everyone that doesn't agree with them unpatriotic and imply we are cowards and traitors. They will pay this time for their hate mongering.

    October 10, 2008 09:49 am at 9:49 am |
  14. Care for USA

    McCain's character is very visible from the way he runs his campaign. He tries to create an angry mob. Not even capable of containing his own suporters. It is really a shame that even in a great country like USA this happens.
    At the end of this race we would know what America is really all about.

    October 10, 2008 09:50 am at 9:50 am |
  15. Tracy

    David in Minneapolis:

    You're absolutely right. Let's all take a moment today and define "patriotic." Don't let the Republicans define it for you. It's people like Palin who keep people like me out of church!

    October 10, 2008 09:50 am at 9:50 am |
  16. Mccain/Palin are filthy hate mongers!

    Joe Biden is a great man with a strong bite but a big heart! Mccain/Palin and their hate clan need to be sued for trying to insinuate Obama is a terrorist and trying to get him killed with their hate filth speeches because they cannot win the election on idea's, they are pathetic!

    October 10, 2008 09:50 am at 9:50 am |
  17. bob in LA

    What is unpatriotic is ignoring a legal order to appear- Palin is lucky she did not end up in jail. What is unpatriotic is using taxpayer money to help individuals that don't pay thier mortgages and rewarding them by lowing their purchase price on a house they should not have bought in the first place at the expense of thier neightbors equity.
    McCain/Palin – right for oil- wrong for the economy

    October 10, 2008 09:50 am at 9:50 am |
  18. RO

    That one and the other one are right, those ones are wrong. Let's give them the truth and they will think it is hell.

    October 10, 2008 09:50 am at 9:50 am |
  19. Baby B

    I love how CNN will correct Joe in their post, But never cirrect Palin.

    October 10, 2008 09:50 am at 9:50 am |
  20. Ms Brown

    Go Biden....

    If she can dish it out...she should be able to take it. It's about time you stand up to her. She thinks just because she is a woman no one will attack her. Call her out....make her talk so we can see the real Palin.

    Obama-Biden ( Dream Team )

    October 10, 2008 09:50 am at 9:50 am |
  21. Scott NYC Independent

    Obama and Biden are both fighters; Biden the guy that will knock you out when you reach his boiling point and Obama the one that will set the trap and corner you laying body blow after body blow.

    This administration will be a serious one and one not to be toyed with at home or abroad. This is a team we can believe in. This is our national pride.

    October 10, 2008 09:51 am at 9:51 am |
  22. viviav uk

    Go get them Joey!!!! We need a TV channel that will rip McCain/ Palin apart. fox news is doing a nasty job on Obama/Biden.

    October 10, 2008 09:51 am at 9:51 am |
  23. norb

    John McSame has sold his soul to the devil in order to win the presidency. However, as the Who sang: "We won't get fooled again".

    October 10, 2008 09:51 am at 9:51 am |
  24. Shawn - GA

    Says the plagiarist.... says the guy who said he would be glad to run with John McCain, says the guy who said Obama was not ready to be President.

    Come on Joe, you will say anything to get yourself ahead.

    Please please people educate yourselves. I know you are unhappy, however don't let your frustrations and desperation to grab at any hope allow you to vote for a person who is just not right for our country.

    Look into ACORN
    Look into Obama reading "a post American world"
    Look into his broken promises to IL
    Look into the man PLEASE.

    October 10, 2008 09:52 am at 9:52 am |
  25. Cathy Brandes

    I am continually amazed that with all the important issues, especially in light of the marked dropping another 500 points in the first 5 minutes of trading, the McCain/Palin campaign continues these attacks. It is clear McCain is not in control of his own campaign. They can't discuss the issues because they do not have a plan. So they resort to personal attacks. They should take heed, what goes around, comes around.
    Senators Obama and Biden should continue taking the high ground and concentrate on the issues. We need their calm leadership more than ever.

    October 10, 2008 09:52 am at 9:52 am |
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