November 5th, 2008
07:33 AM ET
11 years ago

Ban on gay marriage in CA still unclear

Prop 8 supporters gather at a rally.

Prop 8 supporters gather at a rally.

(CNN) - The outcome of an effort to ban gay marriage in California remained unclear early Wednesday since not all the votes had been counted.

Proposition Eight, which would eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry in California, had the support of 52 percent of voters at 2:45 a.m. (5:45 a.m. ET), with 84 percent of precincts reporting.

Voters in Arizona and Florida approved bans on gay marriage Tuesday.

In California, voters weighed a gay marriage ban after the California Supreme Court ruled this year that such marriages were legal under the state's constitution.

The ballot initiative had the support of 4.6 million voters compared with 4.3 million who were opposed, according to preliminary results.

In Arizona, voters approved a measure Tuesday to amend the state constitution so that only a union between one man and one woman would be recognized as a marriage. Fifty-six percent of voters supported the measure - a reversal of direction from 2006, when a similar measure on the ballot failed.

A ban on gay marriage also passed in Florida, with support from 62 percent of the voters.

In California, first-time voters cast their ballots against the proposition by a 64 percent to 36 percent margin, according to exit polls. The rest of the electorate favored the amendment 52 percent to 48 percent.

Church attendance was a major factor in voting.

Californians who attend church weekly voted for Proposition Eight by a margin of 83 percent to 17 percent, according to exit polls. Those who attend church occasionally voted 40 percent in favor and 60 percent opposed. Californians who never attend church were 14 percent in favor and 86 percent

College graduates opposed Proposition Eight by a 57 percent to 43 percent margin. Those without a college degree favored it 53 percent to 47 percent.

African-Americans voted for the measure by a 69 percent to 31 percent
margin. However, 55 percent of white voters and 52 percent of Hispanics voted
against the proposition.

- Hal Quinley and CNN's Joe Von Kanel contributed to this report

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soundoff (90 Responses)
  1. Suzanne Hess

    I bet it will be in the Supreme Court soon. Could be another Roe Vs. Wade...
    sooner or later, too bad not now, but eventually, when all the old geezers die, it will be the law that all people have the same rights. Hang in there, my gay friends, it will happen!

    November 5, 2008 08:56 am at 8:56 am |
  2. Patrick, Dublin

    On a day when America is embracing change and its so-called 'inclusive future' for all African Americans, it seems that 'anything' is possible... as long as you're not gay and want to get married.
    If the door has been finally closed on 'race' then another one remains wedged open on equality for gay people.
    I am disappointed that the African-American community in California are both empowering themselves and limiting the rights of other minorities in the same election day.
    The day I truly believe that anything is possible is the day America elects a gay president.

    November 5, 2008 08:57 am at 8:57 am |
  3. lace

    I totally agree. u have the right to be whatever u want to be. That doesnt mean it has to be made a rule all around America!!!!! SO BE WHAT U WANT AND BE WITH WHOM U WANT. JUST DONT TRY AND MAKE EVERYONE AGREE ON IT TOO.

    November 5, 2008 08:57 am at 8:57 am |
  4. dejah

    What this tells me is that churches preached the politics of hate from their pulpits. When will they lose their tax-exempt status?

    Why are they using religion as a hateful weapon?

    November 5, 2008 08:58 am at 8:58 am |
  5. Rodney, Canada

    It seems to be the word marriage. Why couldn't a same sex wedding end with a Union and a wedding between a man and woman be called a Marriage. Both would be treated as the same by the State and Federal governments. Just a thought!!

    November 5, 2008 08:58 am at 8:58 am |
  6. Jay Stephens, Fort Lauderdale FL

    The vote in Florida was also a constitional admendment making marriage as only between one man and one woman, just like the vote in AZ. In Florida it takes a 60% yes vote to amend, the vote was unfortunatly 62% yes.

    November 5, 2008 08:58 am at 8:58 am |
  7. Alan Louis

    What if you walked into a voting booth and the ballot read "Should the state ban marriage between Blacks? or Jews? or Asians? or Latinos? or the disabled? or citzens over 65 years of age?" You would be outraged wouldn't you? But insert the word "gay" into that sentence and there's no problem whatsover. When will you connect the dots? Discrimination is discrimination is discrimination. It's not okay if you target the right group because YOU are in someone else's "right group."

    November 5, 2008 08:58 am at 8:58 am |
  8. Ms. Jenny

    This is so very sad. The same day we move beyond our racial past and elect a black man president, is also the same day a few states decided to endorse bigotry and make prejudice against gay people an official law.

    Seriously, to anyone who is married who is against gay marriage, I have one question: How does Ellen marrying her girlfriend affect YOUR relationship with your spouse in ANY way? How does Ellen's gay marriage make your own any less meaningful?

    November 5, 2008 08:59 am at 8:59 am |
  9. raymond

    This is a sad day for California, despite many pro-8 people who would applaud this decision.

    We progressed as a nation, and then we fell as a state.

    November 5, 2008 08:59 am at 8:59 am |
  10. Tom

    It's unbelievable that this is still an issue. The only threat to marriage is DIVORCE, not gay marriage!

    November 5, 2008 08:59 am at 8:59 am |
  11. Charles D

    Not surprised. The results show the natural and slow decline of bigotry and intolerance that simply takes time to manifest itself into laws. The trends tell the real story and eventual gay equality and that is the great sign.

    While the current popular vote power belongs to the religious mob and those brainwashed by fright, it is clear that group too will simply follow the dinosaurs over time.

    November 5, 2008 09:00 am at 9:00 am |
  12. Texas Klingon

    This is an example of unwanted government intrusion in our private lives. Strange that it is supported by Conservatives.

    My gay niece got married to her girl friend, those in my family who could attend were there, and none of the man-woman marriages in our family have collapsed as a result.

    This Proposition is the imposition of religious values on people who don't share those values.

    November 5, 2008 09:00 am at 9:00 am |
  13. Wesley

    It makes me so sad that people are so scared of two same-sex persons sharing a life together.

    As a young gay man it makes me feel like less of a person and life is difficult enough.

    November 5, 2008 09:00 am at 9:00 am |
  14. Jacob

    I find it amazing that African-Americans, who have a history of being discriminated against in this country, would support a measure to add discrimination against another group into a state consitution.

    November 5, 2008 09:01 am at 9:01 am |
  15. Katie Wilson

    At 5:51 a.m. with 92.3% of votes recorded, the vote remains (as it has all night) 52% in favor of this amendment. What's unclear about that. California voters have spoken (again) and the majority want to preserve the traditional definition of marriage as one man and one woman. I applaud them for not allowing that definition to be decided by special interests and a small panel of judges. I also applaud Florida and Arizona (my home) for also stepping up and protecting their state's definition of marriage in a manner than cannot be overturned by their State Supreme Court, but rather will govern that court's decision. It is a victory for TRUE conservatives who believe these decision are left to the states to decide.

    November 5, 2008 09:02 am at 9:02 am |
  16. Mary

    One man and one woman, Biblical marriage is what they voted for. God hates divorce and according to the Bible there are grounds for divorce but you can not remarry unless your spouse dies. Until death do you part, if you want to be married. Lets make remarrying of divorced people illegal too and see how they like it.

    November 5, 2008 09:02 am at 9:02 am |
  17. Cincinnatian

    For crying out loud, give people the freedom to live their love in peace. Why are we so afraid?

    November 5, 2008 09:03 am at 9:03 am |
  18. Holly

    Wow. I am glad that CNN doesn't try to hide their bias. Last night when a NO for Prop. 8 was ahead, CNN was ready to call it. Now that YES is ahead. Its too close to call. Sorry CNN, I know you are disappointed that a PERVERSION of Satan and a DISGRACE was defeated.

    November 5, 2008 09:04 am at 9:04 am |
  19. norris_california

    Gay marriage should not be allowed any where in the world, they should have the same rights as any individual but marriage is a tradition from the onset was between a man and a woman. Allowing same sex to do likewise will not make marriage a tradition anymore but rather a trend.A BIG NO TO LBGHT,(lesbians,bi-xuals,gays, homosxuals and Transvestites. It will never become a law, no disrespect to gay folks.

    November 5, 2008 09:04 am at 9:04 am |
  20. J. Cannon

    Ironic that black voters, who fought so long and so hard to be accepted and to have the same rights as whites, are now the discriminators voting 69% for Prop. 8. And on the very night the first black president is overwhlemingly elected.

    November 5, 2008 09:05 am at 9:05 am |
  21. Kelly

    If a mormon can have 8 wives and I am supposed to look the other way, why can't I marry the person I love? Hate, lies, discrimination, and homophobia seem to be the new family values of the mormon and catholic church. I thought the bible taught love and tolerance. I hope you teach your children to discriminate well, because this fight isn't over yet.

    November 5, 2008 09:05 am at 9:05 am |
  22. Sarav Chithambaram

    When the nation voted for a African American president, it broke the race barrier. When we are rejoicing "Yes we can" and patting our backs on the historic win of Obama, we refuse to acknowledge that hate bacame law in 4 states. CA, FL, AR, AK banning same sex marriage and banning gay adoption and fostering.

    Are we sending mixed signals to the world? When do we realize gay rights are basic rights and not special rights? When do we realize majority voiting on minority is fundamentally wrong. We have slavery and the Civil war to remind us of that tragedy again and again.

    Here again, the gay community is waiting with a begging bowl for its basic human rights.

    Shame on anyone who voted banning gay marriages. Hope you feel proud of yourself for helping to write hate in the state law books. You have denied human rights for the current and future generations. You will be laughed at in the future for your bigotry.

    November 5, 2008 09:05 am at 9:05 am |
  23. Melissa J

    Why did you phrase it in the negative-voters banned gay marriage? Why not say Voters decided to recognize marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

    November 5, 2008 09:05 am at 9:05 am |
  24. SWMC

    Seems it's won, 350,000 votes is a pretty good lead.

    November 5, 2008 09:05 am at 9:05 am |
  25. Norman

    I just don't understand how people think it affects their lives so much if two gay people get married. I personally don't see any reason for anyone to get married, but I would never take someones rights away because of who they are.

    November 5, 2008 09:06 am at 9:06 am |
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