December 22nd, 2008
05:10 PM ET
14 years ago

Biden has some sympathy for Bush - but none for Cheney

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="There’s no love lost between Biden and Cheney."](CNN) - Joe Biden says he has some sympathy for George Bush after the president became the target of a shoe-throwing Iraqi journalist – but the Vice president-elect struck a tougher tone on Dick Cheney, the man he is set to replace.

“It's presumptuous to feel sorry for another man,” Biden told CNN’s Larry King in an interview set to air Monday night. “But I feel somewhat – I feel somewhat badly for him. I think the incident in Iraq was – was unfortunate, that guy throwing the shoes. It was just – it was just uncalled for and was – I think that President Bush and, unlike Vice President Cheney, is, upon reflection beginning to acknowledge some of the serious, if not mistakes, misjudgments that he made.”

Watch Biden on CNN's Larry King Live tonight at 9.m. ET

It’s the latest in a series of swipes between the current vice president and the man who will replace him, and stands in marked contrast to the largely complimentary comments President-elect Barack Obama and Bush have traded since Election Day.

Biden – who referred to Cheney during the campaign as one of the most “dangerous” vice presidents in U.S. history – told ABC Sunday that Cheney’s opinions on executive power were “dead wrong,” and had not been healthy for the country. He pledged to “restore the balance” between the president and vice president.

Cheney himself told an interviewer Sunday that "if [Biden] wants to diminish the office of the vice president, that's obviously his call."

In response, the vice president told FOX News that "if [Biden] wants to diminish the office of the vice president, that's obviously his call. President-elect Obama will decide what he wants in a vice president and, apparently, from the way they're talking about it, he does not expect him to have as consequential a role as I have had during my time."

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soundoff (262 Responses)
  1. Fritz

    Cheney is unable to reflect, much like vampires and other blood suckers.

    December 22, 2008 03:23 pm at 3:23 pm |
  2. Larry in Houston

    I agree with SUE....

    But DENISE !!!
    outsourced to China, your right.....but WHO'S Fault ???
    The Republicans, of Course !!

    They didn't know it was the American Worker got them to where they are !!! So, they will continue to be greedy !!
    Larry C.
    Houston, Texas

    December 22, 2008 03:23 pm at 3:23 pm |
  3. Angie-OHIO

    People will soon realize it was crazy cheney running this country and dumb, dumb bush was the puppet. I'm glad both of them will be gone for good. President elect Obama and Vice President elect Biden will get the country back on track for the good of ALL PEOPLE, not just the chosen few.

    December 22, 2008 03:24 pm at 3:24 pm |
  4. Frank

    I don't disagree with Biden very often, but I do here.

    Bush is no more entitled to our sympathy than Cheney.

    They are both liars, incompetents, and war criminals. I hope that the International Criminal Court comes after them and that we turn them over.

    December 22, 2008 03:24 pm at 3:24 pm |
  5. Gil

    I agree with Biden. However, I find cheney a vile and ruthless person who I'm very glad will be replaced. I hope that indictments will follow after he is removed from office! I feel no sympathy for bush who is one of the worst presidents in US history!

    December 22, 2008 03:24 pm at 3:24 pm |
  6. Independant from NY

    I'm not crazy about Biden, but he's right here. This was his awkward and politically cautious way of saying that Cheney was the puppet master while Dubya was a simpleton puppet.

    But thankfully for us, we have a PE who is smarter than his VPE.

    December 22, 2008 03:25 pm at 3:25 pm |
  7. Ticin

    Biden believe's in a balance of power, and not 'absolute power' as Cheney did. I'm glad Biden has the graciousness to moderate his influence. He's going to be a great VP – and Obama will be a great President. You "third-term" supporters need to got over it. If the republican picks were so great, then why did they lose?

    December 22, 2008 03:25 pm at 3:25 pm |
  8. conservative

    Oh cut the crap Joe !! The same goes for CNN!

    December 22, 2008 03:26 pm at 3:26 pm |
  9. James


    You said "BTW, what happened to Made in America? We have been outsourced to China over the past 30 years."

    Bush did have 8 years and the ability to change the the fact that all our jobs are going over seas and he chose to hasten the situation. We will get our jobs back one day soon when the economic collapse of this country is complete. The shoe will be on the other foot and China will be able to outsource the work back to us when there are no jobs left here and our people get desperate enough to work for pennies.

    December 22, 2008 03:27 pm at 3:27 pm |
  10. Craig Shaver

    I feel no sympathy for either Bush or Cheney. It's really too bad neither will live long enough to see their names ranked among the very worst administrations in history. They're arrogant, mean spirited, vindictive, small-minded men who appointed other like-minded people. Neither man understood they were employees of "We the people". The rest of us were never even fellow citizens – we were merely subjects to be used.

    December 22, 2008 03:27 pm at 3:27 pm |
  11. G.R.I.T.S. - Girl Raised in the South

    While on the subject of Cheney, why hasn't the mainstream media picked up on the story about the small plane that crashed into an empty garage in Ohio? The pilot, and dead guy, was a star witness against Cheney/Rove regarding some missing White House e-mails and the firing of U.S. Attorneys. Not too long ago, the prosecutor requested protection for this man. Now he's dead. Check it out. Huffington Post has an article, or you can just Google it.

    December 22, 2008 03:27 pm at 3:27 pm |
  12. GiroGeezer, Calif.

    Anyone else remember that the Enron scandal also broke during the Bush watch?

    December 22, 2008 03:28 pm at 3:28 pm |
  13. Russell Hammond

    Cheney still insists invading Iraq was a very good idea. That alone says everything.

    December 22, 2008 03:29 pm at 3:29 pm |
  14. Alice Newman Center Harbor NH

    I am in total amazement at all those out there who would rather have Cheney – using the "F' word on the floor of Congress and arrogant enough to think he, Cheney, gets to decide who "deserves" abuse.

    Cheney didn't even have the guts to admit he shot someone – until the press started to ask questions ... Cheney, and his 5 excuses for not risking his butt in war but gleefully sending other people's children to fight and die!

    Joe Biden , as VP, will be a candidate for sainthood after suffering for 8 years with a real Dick. As for walking the walk? Maybe give Obama and Biden a chance? They haven't even been sworn it yet!!!!!

    December 22, 2008 03:30 pm at 3:30 pm |
  15. Mickie

    Oh please – I don't feel a bit sorry for George – he let Cheney run the country into the ground while he acted like the "cock of the walk". I don't feel sorry for ignorant, arrogant, dunces.

    December 22, 2008 03:30 pm at 3:30 pm |
  16. facts are facts

    Only an idiot would fell sorry for Bush. He has lied time after time and that is not the way of a fool but the way of an evil person.

    The whole bunch of them are war criminals as well as domestic criminals. Look at how Bush defended Gonzales when he went before the Senate and couldn't recall anything other than his name.

    Ship them all to the Haig and let the world deal with them for the damage they have done to the world.

    December 22, 2008 03:31 pm at 3:31 pm |
  17. Karin

    Dick Cheney is evil incarnate. Anyone, anyone at all that believes in this undiagnosed sociopath does not believe in the man upstairs and is as greedy and inhumane as the man. I wonder if old Dickie's ticker would have held out if he had been waterboarded, "tick, tick, clunk"...we can only hope that the next time we see this criminal he will be sitting in a defendants box right beside his puppet.

    Good riddance!

    December 22, 2008 03:31 pm at 3:31 pm |
  18. mike

    I have never cared for Cheney and know Biden wlll take his job much more seriously than Cheney ever did. Bush has been pathetic to the point I can feel sorry for him. He was never meant to be a President and definitely should never have been one. Actually, come to think of it, Cheney really was in charge.

    December 22, 2008 03:33 pm at 3:33 pm |
  19. Dan, FL

    Joe Biden, you are a moron. If democrats were in power, our country would have taken over by Jihadist. I want to thank both President Bush and VP Cheney for keeping us safe for the last eight years. You and your administration has performed beyond my expectations. I will remember it forever. I do not believe Barack or Joe has any clue of it. They are just a big mouth. Let the show begin.....

    December 22, 2008 03:34 pm at 3:34 pm |
  20. obama-mama


    While I was not pleased with all that Mr. Bush did in his 8 years, he has kept us safe and has kept his eye on that goal since 9/11. Even those who hate him have that to thank him for. Save your sympathy, Joe, for Obama and yourself in 4 years
    ______________________________________________________Your joking, right? I think the reason 9/11 occurred was a result of George Bush's presidency.....Thank him for keeping us safe....He was in office when the attack occurred.

    December 22, 2008 03:34 pm at 3:34 pm |
  21. Matt

    @ Everyman

    But that would exclude you and everyone who voted GOP this year.

    December 22, 2008 03:34 pm at 3:34 pm |
  22. Shari, NY

    If he did not duck swiftly he would have been a victim of "sock and awe" missile attack. Poor guy!

    December 22, 2008 03:35 pm at 3:35 pm |
  23. Jeffrey

    To Denise: The issues of Bush's presidency were not bad luck. Prior to his taking office and prior to 9/11, many people who ended up in his administration (including Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowicz) belonged to a think-tank called the Project For a New American Century. Amongst other things they advocated toppling Saddam Hussein in order to begin spreading democracy (and capitalism) in the Middle East. They even wrote then-Pres. Clinton a letter urging him to take Hussein out. When Bush took office, federal authorities warned him that Osama Bin Laden was planning an attack, but his administration concentrated on Hussein instead, even falsely connecting him to Al Queda after 9/11. These were all planned actions, not bad luck. Katrina could have been handled better if his people weren't incompetent and too busy killing and displacing countless Iraqi civilians in a war that should never have been waged. All of these distractions kept them from seeing the oncoming financial crisis. A different president might have acted very different in all of these situations.

    December 22, 2008 03:39 pm at 3:39 pm |
  24. yeah, these are the same folk who voted for Palin!

    Cheney was a mistake and the Repugs are to blame!

    December 22, 2008 03:39 pm at 3:39 pm |
  25. Not Soon Enough

    Hopefully Bush and Cheney will receive 'shoe throwing' receptions for the rest of their days. That's what they have earned.

    December 22, 2008 03:40 pm at 3:40 pm |
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