December 22nd, 2008
05:10 PM ET
14 years ago

Biden has some sympathy for Bush - but none for Cheney

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="There’s no love lost between Biden and Cheney."](CNN) - Joe Biden says he has some sympathy for George Bush after the president became the target of a shoe-throwing Iraqi journalist – but the Vice president-elect struck a tougher tone on Dick Cheney, the man he is set to replace.

“It's presumptuous to feel sorry for another man,” Biden told CNN’s Larry King in an interview set to air Monday night. “But I feel somewhat – I feel somewhat badly for him. I think the incident in Iraq was – was unfortunate, that guy throwing the shoes. It was just – it was just uncalled for and was – I think that President Bush and, unlike Vice President Cheney, is, upon reflection beginning to acknowledge some of the serious, if not mistakes, misjudgments that he made.”

Watch Biden on CNN's Larry King Live tonight at 9.m. ET

It’s the latest in a series of swipes between the current vice president and the man who will replace him, and stands in marked contrast to the largely complimentary comments President-elect Barack Obama and Bush have traded since Election Day.

Biden – who referred to Cheney during the campaign as one of the most “dangerous” vice presidents in U.S. history – told ABC Sunday that Cheney’s opinions on executive power were “dead wrong,” and had not been healthy for the country. He pledged to “restore the balance” between the president and vice president.

Cheney himself told an interviewer Sunday that "if [Biden] wants to diminish the office of the vice president, that's obviously his call."

In response, the vice president told FOX News that "if [Biden] wants to diminish the office of the vice president, that's obviously his call. President-elect Obama will decide what he wants in a vice president and, apparently, from the way they're talking about it, he does not expect him to have as consequential a role as I have had during my time."

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soundoff (262 Responses)
  1. Pat

    amen, Louis, amen

    December 22, 2008 03:42 pm at 3:42 pm |
  2. S. Dixon

    Biden is a Buffoon from the word go, it is going to be so entertaining to listen to the loose cannon bumble and fumble and bluster his way through the next four years it almost tops the gut-wrenching fear that through some horrible mishap this yahoo might end up as president. He compounds the fact that he's a hothead with the additional trait of being a loud-mouth, and as ignorant as anyone who has ever held the office, an old-school politician the likes of which we can someday hopefully lay to rest as part of a bye-gone day.

    December 22, 2008 03:42 pm at 3:42 pm |
  3. Wynter

    Bush just had a shoe thrown at him.

    Cheney deserved a "cinder block"!

    December 22, 2008 03:42 pm at 3:42 pm |
  4. Rachel

    Bush has a lot of empanthy. I just read where he visited service people and the troops at Walter Reed etc. He did get a lot of bad advise and was a little to trustworthy in my estimation. I think the mad in decent and I think he's gotten a bad rap from the public and media.
    I really never heard Obama critisize anything but Bush's way of running the war etc. which History will tell not all that has happened and a lot of events were not of Bush's making! I also think it was shabby of McCain and Palin to distance themselves from Bush like he was a typhoid Mary or something. Bush isn't stupid. Just naive.

    December 22, 2008 03:42 pm at 3:42 pm |
  5. Paul

    Who cares what this loser thinks. He is about to make the Vice-Presidency even more insignificant that it already is.

    December 22, 2008 03:43 pm at 3:43 pm |
  6. Ed, Santa Fe, NM

    If Cheney is guilty, then Bush is equally guilty of illegals wars, a ruined economy, erosion of civil rights etc.... I hate Bush and his entire administration of bagmen/women..... I hope they all enjoy the money they undoubtedly made by handing the country over the BIG OIL.... ROT IN HELL ALL YOU.

    December 22, 2008 03:43 pm at 3:43 pm |
  7. Noah

    Frank- Then you must also hope that every member of Congress that voted for the war, including Joe Biden himself, will be charged by this "international court." Then again you are obviously a Liberal and therefore also a hypocrite and think your party's hands are completely clean.

    December 22, 2008 03:44 pm at 3:44 pm |
  8. John E Lexington KY

    W is an alcoholic nonentity who should never have been in power. Cheney is indeed dangerous – he's still dangerous. The two of them managed to damage the country in ways that were beyond imagination eight years ago – voters actually said that it didn't matter if Bush or Gore won. What a price to pay for cynicism. If that vote were held now, I wonder what the results would be?

    December 22, 2008 03:44 pm at 3:44 pm |
  9. john thomas

    To no incumbents in 2010 who wrote:
    "The world is not going to love us anymore than it ever has. The only way to get all these crazy terrorist to love us is to convert to Islam. I say if they want a Jihad lets give them what they want."

    While your emotional outburst disguised as reason may actually have some truth to it, the fact of the matter is, we went to war in Iraq for nothing remotely related to terrorists or a defense against Jihad. Every responsible and proud American is down for smacking down a Jihad of "crazy terrorists". But a half-baked invasion cooked-up and marketed by arm-chair warriors and intellectuals, with an ever-shifting justification (oil/energy domincance), is no reason for 4,000 proud young soldiers to waste their lives. Call a war crime a war crime.

    December 22, 2008 03:44 pm at 3:44 pm |
  10. petre

    Cheney was certainly a war monger

    December 22, 2008 03:45 pm at 3:45 pm |
  11. Calvioni

    A lot of people need to wake up. The statement that Bush was a good president since we did not have anymore 9/11 style evens is so stupid and border line delusional.
    If we take this statement at face value, then we can states that a foreign leader of any country that was not hit with a 9/11 style attack was a good leader and was the right choice at the right time?

    Hello?!?!!? Do u people see where I am going with this? I can name many, many countries that are NOT Muslim and were NOT hit w/ 9/11 style events.

    December 22, 2008 03:45 pm at 3:45 pm |
  12. Joe in DE

    I feel sad for Bush, he is pathetic, but he still should be impeached. He ated above the law and interpeted it as suited his agenda,

    December 22, 2008 03:46 pm at 3:46 pm |
  13. Jay

    Anyone who says that Bush deserved to get shoe thrown at him are simply not American. While none of us agree with the current administration's decision making, no one should support some idiotic journalist harming the President, no matter who it is. Like now we should all act like animals, throwing shoes instead using words to support our opinions? I laugh at the report where it was said that this reporter was beaten up and has not been heard from in a few days, he deserves it and anyone else who throws a shoe at the President (whether its Obama,Bush or whoever). There should be a sense of loyalty to the history of our country, Bush was elected twice by the people of America. Throwing shoes is for ANIMALS.

    December 22, 2008 03:46 pm at 3:46 pm |
  14. John in WV

    Cheney said West Virginians were inbred after WV voters were instrumental in getting him and Bush elected twice. He went on to say that he could say this about us since he no longer needed our votes. I just wish it had been him instead of Bush and both shoes hit their target.

    December 22, 2008 03:47 pm at 3:47 pm |
  15. Red, Red WHINE!!

    Ha ha....some mental midgets out there still thank Bush/Cheney for ALLOWING us to get attacked on 9/11. As if it is some huge accomplishment to ALLOW your country to be attacked.

    It only took FOUR planes to get past ye ole Bush/Cheney duo. The last time in hisotry america was attacked on it's soil by an act of war was 60 years ago...but that's where the similarity ends. See, 60 years prior it took 6 aircraft carriers and close to 400 planes to do it.

    Moral of the story: Bush/Cheney are incompetent idiots, and some people celebrate their ability to fail and cause 2300 people to be slaughtered due to them being asleep on the watch! Worst President and Vice President in HISTORY!

    December 22, 2008 03:47 pm at 3:47 pm |
  16. Sakeena

    I agree with Joe Biden, I too have some sympathy for Bush. I can't imagine being the butt of most jokes, having the all time lowest approval rating, and dodging foreign shoes. I would be miserable. As for Dick Cheney, I would not want to be caught in a dark alley with him. The man is scary!

    December 22, 2008 03:47 pm at 3:47 pm |
  17. Scott NYC Independent

    No sympathy for either of them – yeah Bush made a lot of misjudgements. You say misjudgements I say screw ups; potato – potatoe.

    December 22, 2008 03:48 pm at 3:48 pm |
  18. Ramon

    Sorry for Bush? Shoe throwing uncalled for? Bush is responsible for the spilled-blood of half a million Murdered Iraqis, most of whom were innocent women and children. And what of the suffering of the millions of Iraqis who were left to survive? And if your jingoism prevents you from caring about those foreign people over there what about our 4000 dead and over 20,000 injured U.S. soldiers? Shoes thrown at his head are very little insult compared to what Bush deserves. Bush and Cheney have each earned both a War Crimes Tribunal and a shoe-print to the face.

    December 22, 2008 03:48 pm at 3:48 pm |
  19. mike

    How about all those innocent Iraqis, do you all feel sorry for them, too?

    December 22, 2008 03:48 pm at 3:48 pm |
  20. Larry in Houston

    yep GRITS, we are definitely in a 8 am to 5 pm thing, here....
    I think you're right !
    Larry C.
    Houston, Texas

    December 22, 2008 03:48 pm at 3:48 pm |
  21. Polar Bears Against Palen

    Bush and Cheney don't deserve sympathy. They belong in prison for war crimes.

    December 22, 2008 03:48 pm at 3:48 pm |
  22. Retired Army in San Antonio

    In my estimation, Chaney and Biden are both quite a bit meaner than their respective Presidents.......which accounts for the constent sniping Chaney and Biden are engaging in......

    December 22, 2008 03:49 pm at 3:49 pm |
  23. Jamie

    Feel sorry for Bush or Cheney? No, nor for anyone who continued to support their lies, fear-mongering, torture, and their policy of pre-emptive killing. Why are they not being held accountable ? They are traitor to everything America is supposed to stand for-and thousands of people are dead because of them. Oh, they put themselves and whoever does their dirty work above the law. They do not have to worry about being tortured, or put in the gulag they created, or face judgement in the kangaroo court they created.

    December 22, 2008 03:50 pm at 3:50 pm |
  24. Former Republican

    Punish Dick Cheney. He deserves to go to jail.

    December 22, 2008 03:51 pm at 3:51 pm |
  25. Retired Army in San Antonio

    I know the truth December 22nd, 2008 2:08 pm ET

    Joe Biden is going to be a terrible VP- he thinks he has so much experience......


    You know the truth......but you can't post the facts.

    What a loser!

    December 22, 2008 03:51 pm at 3:51 pm |
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