December 22nd, 2008
05:10 PM ET
14 years ago

Biden has some sympathy for Bush - but none for Cheney

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="There’s no love lost between Biden and Cheney."](CNN) - Joe Biden says he has some sympathy for George Bush after the president became the target of a shoe-throwing Iraqi journalist – but the Vice president-elect struck a tougher tone on Dick Cheney, the man he is set to replace.

“It's presumptuous to feel sorry for another man,” Biden told CNN’s Larry King in an interview set to air Monday night. “But I feel somewhat – I feel somewhat badly for him. I think the incident in Iraq was – was unfortunate, that guy throwing the shoes. It was just – it was just uncalled for and was – I think that President Bush and, unlike Vice President Cheney, is, upon reflection beginning to acknowledge some of the serious, if not mistakes, misjudgments that he made.”

Watch Biden on CNN's Larry King Live tonight at 9.m. ET

It’s the latest in a series of swipes between the current vice president and the man who will replace him, and stands in marked contrast to the largely complimentary comments President-elect Barack Obama and Bush have traded since Election Day.

Biden – who referred to Cheney during the campaign as one of the most “dangerous” vice presidents in U.S. history – told ABC Sunday that Cheney’s opinions on executive power were “dead wrong,” and had not been healthy for the country. He pledged to “restore the balance” between the president and vice president.

Cheney himself told an interviewer Sunday that "if [Biden] wants to diminish the office of the vice president, that's obviously his call."

In response, the vice president told FOX News that "if [Biden] wants to diminish the office of the vice president, that's obviously his call. President-elect Obama will decide what he wants in a vice president and, apparently, from the way they're talking about it, he does not expect him to have as consequential a role as I have had during my time."

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  1. mike

    I am an American first and the fact that a shoe was thrown at my President is disturbing to me. He still is , unfortunately my President. I can hardly wait for him to be gone, but just think about where the US of A has shrunk to?What has happened? Why did we allow it to happen? We are all guilty of this crime! It is time for us all to look in the mirror and be truthful. An Ennglishman once wrote .... to thine own self be truthful. My gracious we have slipped, have we not?

    December 22, 2008 04:27 pm at 4:27 pm |
  2. Mike

    I too feel sorry for Bush but after all Cheney was HIS selection and now he must deal with the consequences. It's truely sad how low this country has sunk under these men. We have no credibility in the world, to say the least about having any allies. Our country was once held in high esteem and now we've been reduced to having shoe's thrown at our president. I cannot recall any time when this country was so divided as it was under these men. If anyone thinks that the future admistration will be worse than the last 8 years, well, I just wonder what color the sky is in your world.

    December 22, 2008 04:27 pm at 4:27 pm |
  3. Ken

    "....apparently, from the way they're talking about it, he does not expect him to have as consequential a role as I have had during my time."

    Hitler was consequential; so striving to be consequential is not, in and of itself, a laudable goal. But for the vacuous perhaps so......we see now what Cheney's political goals were - and striving to be the most consequential is called "country first"? This pathetic turd-burgler serves as an example of what the country would be like if the terrorists won. This guy has been full of himself ever since he dodged military service.

    Thank God the American people came out of their stupor and elected a human being to office this we'll know who the president and VP more rightwing puppet show, to see who is more "consequential".

    December 22, 2008 04:27 pm at 4:27 pm |
  4. Matt

    I think we should just put them both in a ring so Biden can beat Cheney around the head neck and shoulders and cause his pacemaker to malfunction.

    December 22, 2008 04:28 pm at 4:28 pm |
  5. Joe the Troll

    Hey, Al in Memphis....

    If they fail, America fails, too. Why do you hate America?????

    December 22, 2008 04:28 pm at 4:28 pm |
  6. educated Ron

    This letter is already written and will cause a national then international uproar including riots.

    I president Bush

    Pardon Cheney, Rove, Gonzales and anyone who has taken any direction from me since 2000 for any past, current or future allegations for anything and everything that they did during my presidential time period until January 20th of 2009.

    This includes guantonomo bay, military, political or FEMA representatives.

    Instead of the prison terms they deserve, this pardon will actually be called an humanitarian award for my legacy and history.

    December 22, 2008 04:28 pm at 4:28 pm |
  7. Womack Boston, MA

    I think Biden's hairplugs are pulled a little tight.... he needs to go to the Dr. and get his noggin adjusted.

    December 22, 2008 04:29 pm at 4:29 pm |
  8. Arlene Illinois

    Now that Bush and Cheney are leaving too bad Hannity and
    Limbaugh aren't leaving with them. Now there's two I really fear.

    December 22, 2008 04:30 pm at 4:30 pm |
  9. wade

    this country was fine until the dems took ober congress bush is ten times the man obama is just wait til he takes our army away and we find that terrorist are still here everyone will regret voting for him

    December 22, 2008 04:30 pm at 4:30 pm |
  10. Larry

    At least we are friends with Libya again....
    1 for Bush there.

    December 22, 2008 04:31 pm at 4:31 pm |
  11. Matt


    December 22, 2008 04:32 pm at 4:32 pm |
  12. educated Ron

    Obama will go down as the most positive president in the history of america at the level of lincoln. His priorities are for the people, its amazing how profoundly rare that is with past politicians.

    Biden will go down as one of the greatest vps, but will also be known as a gaffe machine.

    Obama is being attacked by the right for things he hasn't even done yet.

    I heard someone say, "he hasn't fullfilled any of his campaign promises"

    Incredible. AT least give him a chance to be sworn in before you attack his presidential decisions.

    December 22, 2008 04:33 pm at 4:33 pm |
  13. Tim

    Joe's going to be a real ball buster. Good for him.
    I think he'll do a good job keeping Obama in line
    and the rest of the world too.
    I like him...

    December 22, 2008 04:33 pm at 4:33 pm |
  14. Dennis

    To Roger:
    How can you compare Biden to Bush? Have your ears been filled with cement and your eyes sewn shut these last 8 years?

    December 22, 2008 04:33 pm at 4:33 pm |
  15. Lefties and Righties.....

    I'm saddened and disheartened at what the extreme of both ends of the repubs and dems have done/will do to this country.

    The funny thing is that all the mistakes that have been made when bush has been in office was because one party was in control of all the branches of goverment (legislature, exec) When one party had all the power they abused it and all this crap happened. Now we are headed in the other direction. This time with the dems taking over everything. Now, a whole new set of mistakes will be made by the OTHER party having too much power. When will America wake up and stop giving power to one party! This is how facism starts! Our founding fathers would be appalled at this!

    A well- balanced government with power split among parties is the best way to go. When will America realize this???!?!! It's like you shoot yourself in one foot, and that didn't feel to good....So now let me shoot myself in the other. Geez.

    December 22, 2008 04:34 pm at 4:34 pm |
  16. thought crime

    Ken: "flapping-at-the-yap all during the Clinto adminstitration as he dragged your ingnorant behinds kicking and screaming into a prospering economy"

    Right... and at the end of his presidency we didn't have a recession... and it wasn't any of his policies that lead to the sub-prime mortgage problem. And I'm pretty sure most of the planning for 9/11 occurred under Clinton, it wasn't an eight month operation... Besides you liberal nitwits [figured i'd call you a name since you don't mind throwing them out], never pay attentions to your own past history... I'm sure if there is another terrorist attack in the next year, you will all place the blame on Bush. On Bush... A man who made some mistakes, listened to some bad opinions, but... I think everything he has done in office will ultimately benefit America and the World [intentionally or unintentionally].

    December 22, 2008 04:36 pm at 4:36 pm |
  17. sally

    okay, then you are presumptuous, right? vp? idiot!

    December 22, 2008 04:36 pm at 4:36 pm |
  18. Victoria

    I say neither of them should be felt sorry for. They both knew what they were doing, and they are now defending their actions without shame. It's sickening. Torture.. War.. These are acts against humanity. Shame on both of these men and all those who carry their beliefs. A person is a person is a person; I don't care where they're from.

    December 22, 2008 04:38 pm at 4:38 pm |
  19. Andy

    Ken is so smart. See how well he writes? He wants you all to notice. He should be running the country.

    December 22, 2008 04:38 pm at 4:38 pm |
  20. veep

    VP's don't do much of anything and are relegated to the forgotten dusty books of history. Just like dan quayle, so to will Cheney, and so too will Biden. Biden should remember that. He may not have nice things to say, but that doesn't really matter because those things will soon be forgotten.

    December 22, 2008 04:39 pm at 4:39 pm |
  21. Bush is awesome

    I'm glad that Bush was president for 8 years because he kept us to be safe from horrible terrorist from Arabian place. Osama Bin Laden needs to be FOUND right away and I'm glad Saddam is dead because he was a MURDERER!! He killed innocent people in Iraq which was really UNNECESSARY!! He was an horrible evil.

    Now, for Obama... the new president, I seriously hope he knows what will he do in the future. Of course, Obama will make mistake in the future... God knows. I don't like him and no matter what will happen in the future.

    So good luck in the future.

    December 22, 2008 04:39 pm at 4:39 pm |
  22. WatchingU

    It's time for the negative rheteric to stop and for you and Obama to perform. It's show time Joe. Put up or shut up.

    December 22, 2008 04:39 pm at 4:39 pm |
  23. Brian

    @ Ken. Good God Man...Amen!

    December 22, 2008 04:40 pm at 4:40 pm |
  24. Amazed

    They are war criminals, but they have a place in heaven because they are pro-life and went to church every Sunday.

    It is unblelievable that there are bunch of morons who think this way in 21st century.

    There is no hell or heaven. The rest of their lives will be like living in hell in a mansion. If throwing shoe incident has not destroyed any part of their self-dignity, then they don't belong to human race.

    December 22, 2008 04:40 pm at 4:40 pm |
  25. LIP

    Interesting that someone would blame Bush for 9/11 because it happened on his watch? Clinton had five or six opportunities to kill Osama and chose not to and Osama was the mastermind. So, how does that make Bush responsible?

    December 22, 2008 04:40 pm at 4:40 pm |
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