December 22nd, 2008
05:10 PM ET
14 years ago

Biden has some sympathy for Bush - but none for Cheney

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="There’s no love lost between Biden and Cheney."](CNN) - Joe Biden says he has some sympathy for George Bush after the president became the target of a shoe-throwing Iraqi journalist – but the Vice president-elect struck a tougher tone on Dick Cheney, the man he is set to replace.

“It's presumptuous to feel sorry for another man,” Biden told CNN’s Larry King in an interview set to air Monday night. “But I feel somewhat – I feel somewhat badly for him. I think the incident in Iraq was – was unfortunate, that guy throwing the shoes. It was just – it was just uncalled for and was – I think that President Bush and, unlike Vice President Cheney, is, upon reflection beginning to acknowledge some of the serious, if not mistakes, misjudgments that he made.”

Watch Biden on CNN's Larry King Live tonight at 9.m. ET

It’s the latest in a series of swipes between the current vice president and the man who will replace him, and stands in marked contrast to the largely complimentary comments President-elect Barack Obama and Bush have traded since Election Day.

Biden – who referred to Cheney during the campaign as one of the most “dangerous” vice presidents in U.S. history – told ABC Sunday that Cheney’s opinions on executive power were “dead wrong,” and had not been healthy for the country. He pledged to “restore the balance” between the president and vice president.

Cheney himself told an interviewer Sunday that "if [Biden] wants to diminish the office of the vice president, that's obviously his call."

In response, the vice president told FOX News that "if [Biden] wants to diminish the office of the vice president, that's obviously his call. President-elect Obama will decide what he wants in a vice president and, apparently, from the way they're talking about it, he does not expect him to have as consequential a role as I have had during my time."

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  1. Kelly

    Bush does not deserve any sympathy. He is the most arrogant and foolish president America ever had. He is responsible for the sorry state our beloved country is in today. Yet, judging from his recent interviews his motto seems to be : The buck NEVER stops here!

    December 22, 2008 04:40 pm at 4:40 pm |
  2. Andy

    Hey Ken, when describing us ignorant republicans, you spelled ignorant wrong. What does that make you?

    December 22, 2008 04:41 pm at 4:41 pm |
  3. Rhino

    Mike in ohio? have you ever had a criticle thought in your life or do you just regurgitate Hanity and Rush? Go have a love child with Anne Coulter and leave those of us who actually love this country in peace.

    Anyone who thinks Cheney and Bush are/were somehow better for America than Gore or our newly elected Pres and VP are simply delusional morons.

    December 22, 2008 04:41 pm at 4:41 pm |
  4. J

    THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH FOR KEEPING AMERICA SAFE SINCE 9/11. All you people would rather critize all of the errors made, and withold gratitude for the positive. shame on you. always ready to blame someone. it took more than President Bush to mess up this economy.. and you talk about all the iraqi's killed in the war.. what about all the ones saved from Sadaam.. i guess you are in denial about that as well for those of you who believe Sadaam was better for Iraq..

    December 22, 2008 04:42 pm at 4:42 pm |
  5. Jack

    I don't know if Joe knows the full story about the tax cuts – or if he does he is being quite generous with President Bush.

    Ronald Reagan once said – "if it ain't broke don't try to fix it" but that's exactly what Greenspan and President Biush set out to do and boy what a mess they made.

    Bush committed myself to the cuts before he knew the damage they would cause and then after he found out what the economic experts said in the bi-partisan trade deficit commission appointed by the republican congress, he turned around and ignored the sage advice of both party's experts – all outlined in Lester Thurow's book Fortune Favors the Bold (Thurow was one of the experts).

    December 22, 2008 04:42 pm at 4:42 pm |
  6. 228rory


    Couldn't of said it any better. Your post is insightful as well as eloquent. Now can you dumb it way, way down to .....say..... a sixth grade reading level so Neo Con evangelical republicans can understand what you said? I fear that they will just call you an angry left elitist. Because, in case you didnt know, being the elite at any one thing means that you "aint no good for this country and probly a terrerist"

    December 22, 2008 04:43 pm at 4:43 pm |
  7. Cruzan Obama Mama

    I just wish the guy throwing the shoes had better aim. LOL!!!!!

    Bush has not only ruined our economy, it has been a ripple effect worldwide. That is what the reporter was expressing with his actions. The US is hated around the world. Regardless of whatever manipulation was going on behind the scenes, Bush was the POTUS. The fate of our country, economy, & lives were in his hands and he failed us miserable.

    December 22, 2008 04:44 pm at 4:44 pm |
  8. D K

    Biden is a total idiot!

    December 22, 2008 04:44 pm at 4:44 pm |
  9. Hurry Up 1/20/09

    I laughed out loud when I heard about the shoe throwing incident in Iraq. Bush should feel lucky that it was just a couple of shoes and nothing more. I'm surprised, frankly, that it took this long for something like this to happen. He is a disagrace to this country and to the office of Presidency. Cheney is shameful and BOTH became irrelevent long ago....

    December 22, 2008 04:45 pm at 4:45 pm |
  10. Matt

    People people're missing the point. The biggest thing to be upset about is that both Bush and Cheney managed to reproduce and send their corrupt, evil and moronic genes off into the next generation. Now, couple that with our society's apparent love for last names and pedigrees (witness the Caroline Kennedy nonsense at the moment) and we might just find outselves with a 3rd generation of Bushtard in office somewhere. Kudos America.

    December 22, 2008 04:46 pm at 4:46 pm |
  11. Dexter

    Cheney has been consequental to our detriment, Cheny's former boss President Gerald Ford describes Cheney as PUGNACIOUS in his old age... IT is not the Vice President's role to push executive agenda through the Senate ( Separation of Powers between Judicial, Executive, and Legislative branches ) The sole purpose of the Vice President as President of the Senate is to Swear in new senators, and to break a simple TIE, nothing more. Cheney is obviously just as bad as his Ford Administration co-worker Donald Rumsfield. What a disgrase these two have been, they're old enough to have know better... people of died because of Cheny and Rumsfield...

    December 22, 2008 04:48 pm at 4:48 pm |
  12. Jose

    OMG! Ken's response to Kevin in OHIO is awesome! You rock my world. That's telling those right-wing extremists. To the RNC for already going on the attack on President-Elect Barack Obama, shame on you! Bunch of whiny losers. Your party needs to reach out to the new America, one that is far more diverse than your party is right now.

    December 22, 2008 04:48 pm at 4:48 pm |
  13. chris

    KEN......what the hell are you talking about.....for 8 glorious clinton years, while everyone was getting rich of the internet boom, (by the way gore created), we were getting attacked throughout the world, and yet clinton had the chance to KILL OSAMA BIN LADEN!! and DID NOTHING.....I PUT PARTIAL BLAME FOR 9/11 ON CLINTON....if he killed bin laden, like he should've, it would have been a lot harder for 9/11 to occur since he was the brains and supplied all the money for F**k Off

    December 22, 2008 04:48 pm at 4:48 pm |
  14. will

    Since none of my stuff is going to get printed anyway, may I say this about that? Vitriol FEELS good, but is a vacuous compensation for powerlessness. Don't yell and scream at me or your parents- figure out a way to actually DO something. There are a lot of empty slots around town that one day might include you. It is nice to talk- it is hard to DO.
    I reckon most of the folk posting come from comfortable homes. Reconsider HOW your folks bought you that car. Where did that money come from? Daddy was an investment banker. Daddy was a mortgage broker. A couple of your friends at school had to move because the bank foreclosed on their house. Connect the dots.

    December 22, 2008 04:48 pm at 4:48 pm |
  15. Brian

    To Ken-

    I think you need to get your facts straight on a few things and become a more "big picture" thinker. Let's just start with being a thinker and not a hater of Republicans at birth. We all know when 9/11 occurred. Honest you think Osama and his buddies were planning 9/11 during Bush's 8 months in office or Clinton's 8 years in office?? Do you remember alittle terrorist attack on the USS Cole on 10/12/2000?? Whose watch was that, and what was done about it?? Maybe Bush's adminstration should've had the intelligence it needed to deter 9/11, but what's that say about Clinton and his national security ideals?? He'd obviously rather do nothing about Osama and Co. while disgracing the presidency by cheating on his wife with an intern.

    And another least President Bush, whom I'm proud to have voted for twice, kept our homeland safe. He took the fight to the enemy. Would you rather have Saddam back in power? Would you rather American military forces not bring freedom and liberty to the Iraqi people?? Just answer if you would prefer having Saddam back in power so the Iraqi people had no freedoms in their lives.

    The sorry thing about Ken is he doesn't see the big picture, he doesn't know the role of the United States in our world. We are the police of the world, we have to be. It is our moral obligation to rid of the world of hateful dictators; to try to bring liberty and peace to all those who seek it. You're a hateful little child Ken. You should really step back once and awhile and be thankful for the things you have in your life, because thousands around the world, aren't as lucky as you and I.

    December 22, 2008 04:50 pm at 4:50 pm |
  16. irene

    I don't feel sorry for Bush or Cheney. I feel sorry for the American public who were duped by these crooks in the GOP. I feel sorry for Obama and his administration that has to clean up this mess. Bush and Cheney should both serve time at a place like GITMO for what they have done to us.

    December 22, 2008 04:50 pm at 4:50 pm |
  17. Kwesoe

    Me thinks it's better to have Cheney for an enemy, because he shoots his friends.

    December 22, 2008 04:51 pm at 4:51 pm |
  18. earle,provincetown

    Personally, there both "blow-hards, period! Biden's all talk,and Cheney's all Cheney,so whose to say if Bush is on his sympathy list? The next time you hear either speak about each other, they'll do a John Kerry,"whoop-di-doo",pathetic bunch all of em,...

    December 22, 2008 04:51 pm at 4:51 pm |
  19. Gary H

    Ken I think you are my new hero. That is the best discripion I have heard of the drivel we have been forced to lsiten to from the right in a long time.

    December 22, 2008 04:51 pm at 4:51 pm |
  20. Daniel

    Joe is right. Cheney deserves no respect at all. He's evil.

    December 22, 2008 04:52 pm at 4:52 pm |
  21. Dexter

    Bush ran for and then accepted a job that he WAS NOT QUALIFIED for. If this had been the private sector instead of a ROVE-driven-election-manipulation first in Florida, then four years later in Ohio, Bush would have been out by reason of incompetence. You can't make D's in college and then be good at anything... when's the last time you looked up to a D-Average Student as a role model or leader of any kind?

    December 22, 2008 04:54 pm at 4:54 pm |
  22. Keith in CA

    I'm sorry that Bush and Cheney won't be carted out wearing handcuffs.

    December 22, 2008 04:54 pm at 4:54 pm |
  23. Laura

    Cheny is a deplorable human being, if you can even call him that - worse than even W. I'm fully convinced that the only reason no one has tried to knock off W. is because they knew than that we'd get Cheny, and that would be even worse.

    Good riddance, and here's to the end of an error!

    December 22, 2008 04:56 pm at 4:56 pm |
  24. DavidinCA

    It's kinda fun to watch Biden all so full of himself and judgemental. I guess with all of this "OMG we won!!!!!" hoopla he can't contain himself. Enjoy it while you can. It's a sure bet you'll be stumbling all over your own tongue soon enough.

    December 22, 2008 04:56 pm at 4:56 pm |
  25. beachgirl

    Biden is AN INTELLIGENT MAN something that the odd and phony couple lack of! BRAIIIIINNNNNSSSS

    There is NO COMPARISON between a lier Cheney and the smart person ready to make the rights decisions!

    Can't hardly wait until these loosers leave Washington. They were a disgrace to this country for 8 years and now they are leaving us with the worst economy ever! morons

    December 22, 2008 04:56 pm at 4:56 pm |
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