August 21st, 2009
11:45 AM ET
13 years ago

Health care ad wars continue

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="New health care ads on both sides of the debate are launching next week."](CNN) - The health care ad wars aren't letting up as the dog days of summer set in.

First, national Republicans are targeting two potentially vulnerable 'Blue Dog' Democrats during the congressional recess over Democratic efforts at health care reform.

The new ads launching Friday will air in the swing districts of New York Rep. Mike Arcuri and Ohio Rep. Zack Space. NRCC spokesman Ken Spain declined to reveal the size of the ad buy but described it as "significant."

"President Obama and Nancy Pelosi are cooking up a risky experiment, on health care. Higher costs, tax hikes, and, get this, massive cuts to Medicare," versions of both ads state. Arcuri/Space already votes with Pelosi 90 percent of the time, now what do you think he'll do?"

Meanwhile, the liberal labor group Americans United for Change announced Friday it is launching a new ad on national cable next week that beats back at debunked claims about the Democrats' health care plans and spotlights what it calls "the real death panels that exist in America today."

"Their lies about phony Death Panels have all been proven false...unfortunately, there are real death panels in America," the announcer says, as footage is shown of 13-year old congressional testimony from a former Blue Cross/Blue Shield medical director who said she has denied patients potential life-saving surgeries.

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Filed under: Health care • President Obama
soundoff (124 Responses)
  1. Mike in MN

    The ads and spin on both sides will contiune and even heat up.
    But as it stands now:
    Obama can continue to push the version of health care in the House he appears to prefer with a government (public) option and that reads as a government takeover of private health insurance. This version is opposed by a majority of voters and Blue Dogs Dems in the House and Senate. If this is his choice he will have to see if the Blue Dogs are bluffing when they say they won't vote for it.
    Or Obama can ask congress to write a new bill. One that does not have a government (public) option and one that a majority of voters will support. To pass a bill like this Obama would have to see if the liberal Dems are bluffing when they say they won't vote for it.
    If Obama goes the path of passing a version that a majority of voters are opposed to, the Republicans will campaign in 2010 and 2012 with the promise that they have listened to the majority of voters and will gut out from the reform all that they are opposed to. This could be done before the reform is implemented in 2013.

    August 21, 2009 01:46 pm at 1:46 pm |
  2. John in WV

    Speaking of Blue Cross/Blue Shield, I recently got a quote from them on what my health care would cost if they agreed to insure me. 400 dollars per month and I meet a 5000 dollar deductable. They don't have to insure me and they can cancel my policy at any time. I would pay all my medical expenses up to 5000 dollars per year and give them 400 dollars per month for providing me with nothing. Ain't that a real deal?

    August 21, 2009 01:47 pm at 1:47 pm |
  3. Watch C-Span

    I watched President Obama on C-Span last night and my confidence soared, both in the content of the health care plan and his ability to get it passed.

    Please, stop listening to the hype. Watch C-Span and get the facts. Network news is just not doing its job. It's reporting the controversy but not the underlying reality.

    It would sure be nice if CNN would do a Health Care Plan 101 story that spells out what actually is in the bill, not what right-wing loonies claim is in the bill. It would be great if Fox would do that too but they are way too far out on the fringe to do anything like reporting facts.

    August 21, 2009 01:47 pm at 1:47 pm |
  4. elliott

    At least the fighting has exposed some of the scary clauses in this TERRIBLE plan. Obamacare is not good for ANYBODY. The politicians know it. They wouldn't PERSONALLY use it...........*WAKE UP* IT"S BAD FOR AMERICA

    August 21, 2009 01:50 pm at 1:50 pm |
  5. Barbara Independent in NY

    If the Blue Dogs don't support the President's plan they deserve to lose. Also, if the public continues to believe the Republican/Conservative lies than we won't get health care reform. It's that simple. Anyone that thinks that the Republicans really care about the American people has a long trip to reality.

    August 21, 2009 01:51 pm at 1:51 pm |
  6. Predicta

    "Existing homes are selling at a record pace. The stock market is up again, 140+ points so far today." Me thinks the stimulus is working".

    Those home sales are mostly foreclosures and short sales and are being picked up by speculators. The stock market is up 432 points since January 2 2009, up 4.7 percent...hardly an economic rebound.

    Both these incidences have nothing to do with the 787 billion stimulus.

    August 21, 2009 01:51 pm at 1:51 pm |
  7. glib lib

    to predicta "Too late for ads….Everyone has already made up their minds on health care reform."

    nobody's made up their mind yet. People in this country change their mind more often than the weather. The media dumps out whatever slop they want to feed us and we slurp it up like a bunch of pigs at the trough. If people would stop and think for themselves and maybe do a little research they would see that political ads are almost always misleading if not down right lies. We need real health care reform in this country and we won't get it because President Obama has made the mistake of leaving it in the hands Congress. There's too many people in there that care more about their political careers than they do about this country.

    August 21, 2009 01:52 pm at 1:52 pm |
  8. Dennis

    Another side effect of Healthcare legislation–stimulating the economy. The only downside? The money all went to the people who weren't suffering. Boy, for a Democratic initiative–this whole thing is sounding very Republican.

    August 21, 2009 01:58 pm at 1:58 pm |
  9. a progressive liberal and proud of it

    "It is interesting that CNN and the other state run media "

    I'm sorry, but that's just a dumb thing to say. CNN, along with most other main stream media, are corporate owned . . .that's a fact. Big corporation, typically, leans to the right ala Republican . . . again, a fact.
    I've said it before, I'll say it again . . . . when you make statements like that no one takes your comment seriously.

    August 21, 2009 02:01 pm at 2:01 pm |

    OK People Republicans in paticular you fell for the Bush/ Cheney/Republicans LIES Of Saddam Hussein Had WMDS, You fell for the Lie of the High Terror alert Before the 04 Election, You fell for Saddam Was Involed with the 911 Attacks, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA STOP BEING GULLIABLE TO THE LIES? Dont you understand by now thats how Republicans operate lies and fear and Twisting Information you think you would have learned by now!

    August 21, 2009 02:05 pm at 2:05 pm |
  11. NVa Native

    This smooth brains think if they keep repeating their lies then the lies will become fact. The majority of the public wants universal health care. Obama ran on it and he won by a huge majority. Yes, moderates and liberals are dis-appointed that he hasn't been more forceful with the mentally and politically challenged Repubs, but all he need do is make it happen and his poll numbers will shoot up on his being forceful alone.
    No matter how many lies they make up it only takes 51 Seantors to pass it, and if the slimy Repubs want to filabuster let them. It would make great political adds to bury the backward party even deeper into their cave of ignorrance.
    Climate change, evolution, that we can eat shelfish, women are as smart (or smarter than) men, color of skin has nothing to do with intelligence (Palin), all proven by facts. We need to let natural selection work and the Repub species of arrogance and ignorance will become extinct.

    August 21, 2009 02:05 pm at 2:05 pm |
  12. Joan

    If McCain and Palin had won in November, we would all probably be in a depression by now because Sen. McCain admitted that he didn't know much about economics and former Gov. Palin would have quit by now because the going was too tough. You would also probably be fighting at least one more war in either North Korea or Iran. Instead you have an administration that has your economy (therefore ours too) rebounding nicely and quite quickly, the rest of the world actually likes you again and you have a president who is working tirelessly to make things better for EVERYONE not just the rich and those tied to big business. A lot of Americans don't know a good thing when they've got it. What a shame!

    August 21, 2009 02:08 pm at 2:08 pm |
  13. James

    What's pathetic is how the republicans are continuously able to get away with spreading lies and misinformation. I have little faith in people's own ability to think for themselves.

    This is the systematic dismantling of logic, morality, and reason.

    Philosophers should be the angriest.

    August 21, 2009 02:08 pm at 2:08 pm |
  14. 60's survivor

    GOP=liars and hypocrites. tired of the constant rhetoric. they bullied us into a needlesss war. now want to bully and fear longer us from providing health care options from US citizens who lose or are under insured. putting
    millions of American lives in jepordy. all for political status qou

    August 21, 2009 02:09 pm at 2:09 pm |
  15. a progressive liberal and proud of it

    Ok., I'll give you that Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security have some problems that need to be addressed. But, please enlighten me as to the way the government has screwed up "the post office, the DMV and Cash for Clunkers". I think the post office works just fine! I mail a letter or a bill and 1-3 days later it arrives at it's destination . . . end of story! The DMV . . . I don't know . . . . I've never had a problem with getting my liscense plates, registration, etc. And as for Cash for Clunkers . . . . read the news today, Dude! There were 450,000 new cars bought, which brought over $2 Billion to the car industry! That's a sucess, not a screw-up in my book!

    August 21, 2009 02:10 pm at 2:10 pm |
  16. Denis -- Toronto

    The Healthcare debate in the U.S.A. is becoming almost hysterical and disgraceful. Your Healthcare Reform debate should be honest, accurate and the TRUTH should not be distorted by Lobbyist and Special Interest Groups including the majority of Republican Politicians. The Healthcare System in the U.S.A. is NOT-THE- BEST system in the world. Let us not confuse the high quality of Medical Technology in the U.S.A. with quality of the Healthcare System in the U.S.A.

    The WHO places the U.S.A. at 37th (Does #37th = BEST??) and so it would seem that a large # of Republican politicians either cannot read or count or simply enjoy. Many US politicians (mostly
    Republicans) are making stupid, inaccurate and uninformed statements about the Canadian Healthcare System as if it was some Socialist bogeyman conspiracy.

    I am a LIFELONG CONSERVATIVE and I believe that our system, although NOT #1 and NOT PERFECT, is EXCELLENT!! First of all our system is not a socialized Healthcare system. All Doctors run their own private practices.

    In Canada, regardless of where you live, all citizens have Universal Healthcare protection. All Citizens can choose their own Doctor without any government intervention to the citizen’s choice in Doctors. Doctor’s are compensated by the various Provincial Governments for services provided and the various Provincial Healthcare Systems are funded thru our Income tax system.

    OH YES, we do not have DEATH panels. Patients are provided with the latest Medical technology. Healthcare is NOT RATIONED. Our infant birth mortality is much lower than in the USA and our life expectancy is considerably higher. Healthcare system costs are MUCH LOWER than in the USA.

    August 21, 2009 02:14 pm at 2:14 pm |
  17. Peter

    Arguing with Republicans is like arguing with a rock! even the most educated republican his/her minds are easily manipulated by radio host shows with little education than them. No wonder they love fox news bar tender!!

    August 21, 2009 02:15 pm at 2:15 pm |
  18. bill

    I'm a healthcare professional, and believe you me, the insurance industry is spending money and sprouting dirty tricks that the Republican party has not even dreamed about until the insurance companies and "big health care providers" realized the billions that they would lose if healthcare reform takes place. The Republicans love every minute of it and are joining the fray with glee.

    August 21, 2009 02:15 pm at 2:15 pm |
  19. Stacey

    President Obama needs to get a backbone and tell the Rethuglicans to go to hell! We the people will have healthcare reform despite the lies and hate the Rethuglicans have spread. Besides, what do those idiots have to offer? Nothing! They don't want healthcare reform – they only want to destroy this president.

    August 21, 2009 02:15 pm at 2:15 pm |
  20. Peter

    The Democrats should counter the ads with their own " Truth"

    August 21, 2009 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  21. John, Brooklyn, New York

    The lies and intentional misinformation that is being spread by the Republicans (and exposed by CNN's truth sqaud) actually demonstrate the following:

    1) the Republicans have no meaningful policy position on healthcare other than "protect the insurance companies at all costs",

    2) since the American people will never accept a policy of "protect the insurance companies at all costs" since it is so dramatically counter to their own interests, the Republicans have to keep their policy secret.

    3) In the absence of an articulated policy position – but WITH a policy position that is directly counter to ANY health care reform – the Republicans resort to their traditional method of getting voters to act against their own best interest by convincing them of lies, and

    4) the intensity of the emotions that the lies are targeted to elicit is in direct proportion to the degree of fear that the Republicans have that ANY health care reform will directly adversely impact their secret policy of "protect the insurance companies at all costs".

    In other words...the more that the Republicans and the insurance industry use fear and misinformation to fight health care reform while also failing to present any genuine alternative health care reform position as an alternative....the more we can be convinced that the Obama administration is actually doing something RIGHT for the American people.

    August 21, 2009 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  22. Reformed Republican

    Fear, smear, mock and lie – The rethuglicans are using that time proven strategy to scare the bejeezuz out of the American "betwetters" who are too lazy or ignorant to think for themselves.
    If we don't get health care reform with a public option it's because a majority of people will fall into the "idiot American" category that the GOP manipulates at will....

    August 21, 2009 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
  23. D. Tree

    Its a real shame the Republicans have to lie in these ads about cutting medicare and higher costs.

    We should be able to have a debate on the actual proposals, not some made up lies.

    August 21, 2009 02:25 pm at 2:25 pm |
  24. call me crazy

    These conservatives are so worried about pulling the plug on grandma but they had no problem supporting the original "death panel" in misleading America into a war where real people died.

    August 21, 2009 02:29 pm at 2:29 pm |
  25. vic nashville , Tn

    Tina Fey And SNL will take care of GOP

    Democrats just pass health care reform

    August 21, 2009 02:40 pm at 2:40 pm |
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