October 19th, 2009
09:02 PM ET
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Podcast: Is Afghanistan becoming Obama's Vietnam?

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In the latest installment of CNN=Politics Daily: A new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll shows that Americans are beginning to compare the U.S. military operation in Afghanistan to the Vietnam war. CNN White House Correspondent Dan Lothian reports on the tough choices that lie ahead for President Obama on Afghanistan.

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  1. Gilesevi

    Wait a minute. This isnt Obama's Vietnam, its BUSH's Vietnam. Let's be accurate here.

    October 19, 2009 09:19 pm at 9:19 pm |
  2. TH

    It is not becoming, it already is!!

    October 19, 2009 09:19 pm at 9:19 pm |
  3. Independent Senior in Bandon, Oregon

    Afghanistan is NOT President Obama's "Vietnam." Why his?

    It is our entire nation's Vietnam.

    Leave Obama alone, CNN! Take a long vacation.

    October 19, 2009 09:27 pm at 9:27 pm |
  4. Gary 3

    The Vietnam war was 11 years, with 56,000 US soldiers dead and 500,000 injured at a time when our country had about 220 million citizens. It required a draft and we never put 100% into it. They never attacked us.

    The Afghanistan war has been only 8 years, less than 2000 US soldiers killed, less than 20,000 injured at a time when our country has about 330 million citizens. It is an all volunteer military and we have the opportunity to put 100% into it and win! The Al Queada in Afghanistan with the support of the Taliban attacked us.


    October 19, 2009 09:30 pm at 9:30 pm |
  5. WIll 18E

    Obama inherited this mess from Bush Cheany. For they took there eye off the ball and invaded Iraq. thus putting America at greater risk. The 2005 national intelligence assessment stated that OSBL was reconstituted and stronger than it was prior to 911. To add insult to injury Sec Gates announce on the sunday news programs, that the policy in Afghanistan had been to a "fight a holding pattern" now it's Obama's "Vietnam, because the the guys who started this, did not fight to win or for real.
    And today we see that there is not an illegitimate government in place in Afghanistan. Thanks GOP.

    October 19, 2009 09:53 pm at 9:53 pm |
  6. Nija

    It is Rush, Shaun Hannity and former President Bush Vietnam. Obama will succeed.

    October 19, 2009 09:58 pm at 9:58 pm |
  7. Idiot_Pelosi

    Hmmmm, Sounds like Mr. Hope is indeed all HYPE as predicted.

    The 3:00am call has come, and went un-answered.

    October 19, 2009 10:00 pm at 10:00 pm |
  8. Terry from West Texas

    The more liberal presidents have had the bad luck to have their domestic agendas overwhelmed by a war. Wilson's domestic agenda was short-circuited by WWI, the New Deal by WWII, Truman's Fair Deal by Korea, and Johnson's Great Society by Viet Nam.

    As much as I hate to leave the Iraqis and the Afghanistanis to their own incompetence and their miserable native political systems, we no longer have the time or money to waste on ordinary wars. We have global warming; overpopulation; polluted ground, water, air and soil; religious fundamentalism and fanaticism, and a world full of totalitarian governments to contend with.

    And, to make matters worse, we have Conservatism to deal with. The goal of Conservatism is to prevent the nation from solving any of its problems – though Conservatives never express it that way. They are nevertheless opposed to any action of any kind.

    October 19, 2009 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm |
  9. New Yorker

    During the campaign Obama was saying Bush was wrong to fight the war in Iraq and should be fighting it in Afghanistan. Thanks to Bush for listening to his generals, supporting their decisions and ramping up troop support when needed, we left Iraq in a state much better for them AND us. Now, if Obama would just be willing to do the same in Afghanistan we can realize another victory there, too, and make great strides against the terrorists. It remains to be seen if he has what it takes. Or, will he put his own agenda before the welfare and safety of our country?

    October 19, 2009 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm |
  10. Amazing

    Obama bashed Bush for his handling of the war...........at least Bush handled it..............Obama is clueless. Never thought I would say it, I miss Bush, at least he was a leader and not a wimp.

    October 19, 2009 10:17 pm at 10:17 pm |
  11. A 50-year Democrat no more. Now an independent with brains.

    This is not OBAMA's Vietnam. I don't like the man but come on he didn't start the war. He just needs to make decisions and do so fast. If he can't listen to the Generals on the ground he needs to be IMPEACHED. People Like Axelrod and his other advisors know nothing of the war over there. Soldiers are dying for his like of giving them what they need just like Vietnam.

    October 19, 2009 10:17 pm at 10:17 pm |
  12. yuri

    There is a perilous potential for this to pose a problem for all the parties concerned.

    October 19, 2009 10:27 pm at 10:27 pm |
  13. Danny

    Afghanistan has already become: ------–> "Bush's Vietnam"

    October 19, 2009 10:45 pm at 10:45 pm |
  14. 60's survivor

    living in the past history will only repeat itself. forward facing with a chance to try something new will bring progress and positive results

    October 19, 2009 10:45 pm at 10:45 pm |
  15. Peter s

    There could be more transparency! if kitchen journalist won't take the information and turn the truth to half lies ( death panels, pulling the plug on grandma etc). You get what you deserve!!

    October 19, 2009 10:59 pm at 10:59 pm |
  16. eolufemi

    Of course it's his war. He's the president of the United States.

    Hopefully, he'll recognize the bigger picture. Which is that we're broke, and we can't afford to win this war.

    $80 billion a year people.

    Nah, pull back into the major cities. Train the Afghan troops and police. Pay off the tribal leaders.

    Kick this problem down the road for when we have some money to deal with it.

    October 19, 2009 11:09 pm at 11:09 pm |
  17. Jeff

    Puhleeasse.... President Obama has been in over his head since January 20th. The Community Organizer bit played well during the elections, but he is in charge now, and people are dying both here and abroad.... Welcome to the real world Mr President, the one that the rest of us have been living in all along..

    October 19, 2009 11:14 pm at 11:14 pm |
  18. Glen Shouse Jr., Georgetown, Illinois

    The unfortunate truth is that the war on terror will never end. It's the same as the war on racism. Ignorance will exist until the end of time. We need to work on protecting our home land. Those countries got that way because their governments and people allowed it. Who are we to tell them to change the ways that they live. Doesn't that make us as bad as the dictators that we are battling in the first place?

    October 19, 2009 11:36 pm at 11:36 pm |
  19. Nea

    Im so glad that the President is taking time to analyze the situation first instead of just bombing. Some may say he is weak or whatever but say whatever about him he have to make sure he gets this right instead of listening to the Republicans who wants to shoot em up now and ask questions later which is not surprising. The Republicans complain about deficit but if they was so concern them why dont they insist on just sending less troops or none at all. Also a question i have to ask why do we have to be the one to send in troops, what are the afghans doing with their troops are they sending any in???

    October 20, 2009 12:10 am at 12:10 am |
  20. Rob in NC

    In the since that we can't win......yes.

    Do we really think 40,000 more troops will make a difference? 50,000, 100,000, where do we say enough is enough?

    The government that we helped create (when are we going to learn) is corrupt and inept. The Afghan's don't want us there, our efforts have helped to destabilize Pakistan, and we have given Iran more rhetoric to spew.

    When we had the world behind us after 9/11 we could have made a difference, instead we lost focus and invaded Iraq, started torturing people, and lost the respect of the world.

    October 20, 2009 12:11 am at 12:11 am |
  21. controlledmedia

    I hope you got the O.K from the administation to post this article.
    What a sad state of affairs the American media has led us to.
    Will you apologize to us in the years to come the way you did with your failure of honesty about the Iraq war? Or will it be to late to matter?

    October 20, 2009 12:14 am at 12:14 am |
  22. Marcia Hunter

    The lawmakers in South Carolina were so busy patting Rep. Wilson on the back for his "you lie" statement and following the antics of the Govenor they forgot all about the 11. 5 % of the work force that is out of work and relying on unemployment benefits to keep the roof over their heads, food on the table for their children and maintain some sense of dignity. Special session.........I'll say there better be a special session and we hope it's not to late to receive the Federal money offered through the stimulas package to extend unemployment benefits to those that desparately need it. To have let this "tweak" go this long without being addressed when thousands are depending on it is criminal and all of you need impeached if this does not go through if you missed a deadline to make the change. Your lack of responsibility on this issue is inexcusible.

    October 20, 2009 12:18 am at 12:18 am |
  23. Linda

    Unfortunately, yes. He didn't start this war but unfortunately he has to finish it. Good luck Mr. President.

    October 20, 2009 12:19 am at 12:19 am |
  24. Wanderer

    The Vietnam War was a conflict between the Capitalism and Communism. The Capitalist lost the battle but the Communist lost the war. The Afghanistan war has nothing to do with any idealism, rather it was about the terrorism. Terrorism is the act of fanaticism that has its root from religious belief. Fanaticism is everywhere even in the U.S.A. … religion exists, fanaticism exists. Fanaticism exists, terrorism exists. The Taliban are fighting the U.S. with not their fire power, but with their religious belief. If we can’t kill their belief, we can’t win this war. Even if we could kill Bin Laden but we would never be able to change their religious belief. If a mistake of invading a country has already been made, in order to correct the mistake, the mistake must be stopped first.

    October 20, 2009 12:43 am at 12:43 am |
  25. Sam SixPack

    It is ruining the popularity contest.

    October 20, 2009 12:56 am at 12:56 am |
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