November 2nd, 2009
05:54 PM ET
13 years ago

Biden stumps for Owens, takes dig at Palin

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(CNN) - Vice President Joe Biden challenged Republican voters in New York's 23rd congressional district to teach conservative "absolutists" a lesson in the special House election Tuesday by voting for the Democratic candidate in the race.

"We aren't asking you to switch your party," Biden said at a rally for Democrat Bill Owens in Watertown, New York Monday morning. "We are just saying join us in teaching a lesson to those absolutists who say no dissent is permitted within your own party."

The comments come a day after Republican Dede Scozzafava, who withdrew from the race Saturday amid heavy pressure from conservatives - endorsed Owens. Many high-profile Republicans, including Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, and Dick Armey, have already thrown their own support behind third-party conservative candidate Doug Hoffman.

Related: Scozzafava campaigns for Owens

In his remarks at the rally for Owens, Biden elicited boos from the crowd when he mentioned Palin, Limbaugh and Armey.

"The idea that Rush Limbaugh would handpick [the] successor is kind of unusual," Biden said of the popular conservative radio host who has heavily backed Hoffman over the national party's choice of Scozzafava.

"I would have thought the last person I would bring up to the North Country is Dick Armey," Biden continued, pointing to the former Texas congressman and current chairman of the conservative group FreedomWorks. "He's a decent guy, but he represents a view so alien it seems to me to the pragmatism to the North Country. Sarah Palin, a former governor - her views are real and consistent with Armey's and Limbaugh's and Dick Cheney's."

"This is a different ideology," Biden continued. "This is different than anything I've known in my 45 years of being familiar with this district. You know, they may not have any room for moderate views in the Republican Party upstate anymore, but let me assure you, we have room, we have room."

Later in his remarks, the vice president couldn't help but return to the subject of the former Alaska governor when the issue of energy came up.

"Sarah Palin thinks the answer to energy is 'Drill, baby, drill,' he said, leaning into the microphone. "It's a lot more complicated, Sarah, than drill baby drill."

A just-released Siena College poll suggests Hoffman holds a 5-point lead over Owens, while 18 percent of likely remain undecided.

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin fired back at Biden Monday. "As the vice president knows, I have always advocated an all-of-the-above approach to American energy independence," Palin wrote in a note on her Facebook page. "There's one way to tell Vice President Biden that we're tired of folks in Washington distorting our message and hampering our nation's progress: Hoffman, Baby, Hoffman!."

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soundoff (274 Responses)
  1. Alan in Atlanta

    It's an unfortunate fact that politics and religion bring out the true evilness in people. And, hostile, hate-filled conservative repubicans are the worst.

    Thier hypcritical actions and hate-filled rhetoric have become the trademark of an irrelevant, dying party.

    November 2, 2009 03:49 pm at 3:49 pm |
  2. Lee

    Joe Biden is a testiment to the American Dream; no matter how intellectually ungifted you are, there's always hope that someday, you too, can rise to be Vice-President of the greatest nation in the world.

    November 2, 2009 03:50 pm at 3:50 pm |
  3. Scott

    And the morons come out from under their rocks to take a stab at Obama. Go ahead, run Bible Spice against ANYONE and she'll lose. Morons.

    November 2, 2009 03:51 pm at 3:51 pm |
  4. DaveG

    This country is in need of repair, restraint and redesign after 30 years of Republican hogwash (i.e. Reagan's "trickle down economics", a.k.a. the rich pocket every last cent, outsourcing of US jobs – another Republican scheme bought and paid for by corporate America for the destruction of the middle class, which increased the labor pool and decimated hourly wages, cut taxes for the rich, which means we borrow the money instead and the rich create off shore bank accounts to avoid paying taxes on profits). WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THE RAPING AND PILLAGING OF AMERICA BY REPUBLICAN POLICIES.

    November 2, 2009 03:51 pm at 3:51 pm |
  5. Deb

    Explain to me how Hoffmanm can run in NY-23 when he doesn't kive in the district and could not answer questions about the district's issues when they were put to him? Regardless of party, wouldn't you want someone inoffice who understands the interests of the district he is representing?

    November 2, 2009 03:52 pm at 3:52 pm |
  6. Bjorn

    I grew up in this district. Being told who their candidate was from on high wouldn't go down well with the Republican rank-and-file. And you need to look at how the district votes. McHugh (Republican) won with 60% of the vote. That indicates that the Democrats did well; he often won with a good bit more than that, especially when the Democrats ran liberal college professor types. It's not a case of conservatives trying to take over the district; it's a case of party leadership trying to tell the voters what's good for them.

    November 2, 2009 03:53 pm at 3:53 pm |
  7. Biased

    How amusing and hypocritical for Biden giving moral lessons to the republicans. Maybe he just loves the fact that many of the most liberal blogs are trying to encourage candidates to get in and run against blue dogs because they aren't "liberal enough". But then, I keep forgetting that whatever democrats do is fine and dandy. I guess you can never be too liberal for the democrats and if not, then beware, because you will feel the wrath as well when it is your turn for re-election.

    November 2, 2009 03:54 pm at 3:54 pm |
  8. omahacliff

    I applaud the right wing neocons who continue everyday to kill their own party by refusing to support moderate republicans. They keep getting further and further to the right, while intelligent, middle of the road republicans switch over to the only party that uses common sense and looks for true bipartisian ship. It makes our job as democrats easier. Come on New York, join the movement!!

    November 2, 2009 03:54 pm at 3:54 pm |
  9. Reny

    Palin is a loser. I hope she runs in 2012. I'm going to love seeing her party shred her during the primaries and Obama shred her if the repubs are dumb enough to nominate her.

    November 2, 2009 03:55 pm at 3:55 pm |
  10. Pappy

    No more Mr. nice guy, it's about time someone in the Democratic party slaps it right back in the faces of the Repug buffoons. Go Joe, give it to them hard and don't let up.

    November 2, 2009 03:56 pm at 3:56 pm |
  11. Biden is a buffoon

    Biden lost it way back when he told the lie that his first wife was killed by a drunk driver when the truth was that his idiot wife caused the accident that also killed her daughter. He had no qualms about slandering the innocent man that was badly injured by the woman's carelessness for his own political gain. The man is evil and disgusting.

    November 2, 2009 03:58 pm at 3:58 pm |
  12. New Age Independent

    Is this all the Democrats have nowadays? Name calling at some Republicans? This is one of the main reasons I left the party. It's the same old garbage, no new ideas, just tax and spend into oblivion. No ethics, transparency, etc.

    November 2, 2009 03:58 pm at 3:58 pm |
  13. Reformed Republican

    Has anybody taken the time to listen to this guy Hoffman talk?

    He's a moron – and a milk-toast to boot! Makes Reid look like The Hulk.

    How can any self-respecting rethug, teabagger or conservative ever vote for him?

    He's an intellectual and physical appearance disgrace to politicians of every party everywhere in the country for god's sake...

    November 2, 2009 03:59 pm at 3:59 pm |
  14. Norm

    It's not Republicans against Democrats anymore. The new racism is libs vs cons and it's tearing this country apart. Both sides need to grow up and think of our country as a whole entity instead of being selfish dividers on every issue. Let's also try to keep the "entertainers" out of politics if we can. They could care less about the country as long as they make their money.

    November 2, 2009 04:01 pm at 4:01 pm |
  15. Linda

    I find it fasinating that those that are calling VP Biden an idiot also believe Sarah Palin is intelligent and qualified to be President. Incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    November 2, 2009 04:02 pm at 4:02 pm |
  16. Gunny262

    plain and simple biden is an idiot and a marxist

    November 2, 2009 04:02 pm at 4:02 pm |
  17. Mickie

    At what point will CNN realize that Sarah Palin and any references to her should be eliminated? She's as irrelevant as a buggy whip, and just needs to be ignored.

    November 2, 2009 04:02 pm at 4:02 pm |
  18. Mike in VA

    Palin responded. Where is that on here CNN?

    November 2, 2009 04:02 pm at 4:02 pm |
  19. Joe

    R.I.P. GOP!!!!! Good Riddance!!!!!!!!!!

    November 2, 2009 04:03 pm at 4:03 pm |
  20. jrzshor

    "We are just saying join us in teaching a lesson to those absolutists who say no dissent is permitted within your own party."

    coming from the obama admin, it is rather funny/ironic. given their silly war on fox news for its dissenting views.

    November 2, 2009 04:03 pm at 4:03 pm |
  21. OA

    There is no difference in idealogy between Limbaugh, Palin, Army, Cheney and their Christian minority, on the one hand, and Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda on the other. They are both fanatical groups that use anything and anyone to advance their own illogical, racist and self-serving agendas. They are all pure evil.

    November 2, 2009 04:04 pm at 4:04 pm |
  22. ghostwriter

    Not a bad plan there Joey. Put a nice wedge into the republican party. Well, they did do that themselves. All this talk of Rinos and what not is very telling. For republicans, there is only one view. My question is who controls that view? We can at least say right now that democrats aren't all following the beat of one drum, especially on health care.

    November 2, 2009 04:05 pm at 4:05 pm |
  23. Jethro

    Yea, right, I'm going to follow BOZO's advise about voting. Democrats have their idealogies, we (conservatives) have our. Nice try BOZO.

    November 2, 2009 04:05 pm at 4:05 pm |
  24. greg

    You failed to report that Biden's "crowd" was about 200 plus 50 media people. 0bama has invested heavily in NY23, NJ, and VA, and it looks like he might lose all 3. That will not give the dems much confidence when it comes to supporting all his loony left agenda, remember 2010 is an election year. It took Palin's endorsement to bring on all the other big endorsements, and he is now leading in the polls, 0bama is going to look like the clown he is after Tuesday.

    November 2, 2009 04:05 pm at 4:05 pm |
  25. cgillette369

    When will CNN see fit to expose Joe Biden, Jr as a mental midget and FIVE time draft dodger in Vietnam?

    Biden finished 76 of 85 at law school after crying and begging not to be expelled when caught cheating.

    What is the name of the man that dies in Vietnam taking Joe Biden's place?

    Joe Biden has an IQ of 90. His medical history shows two barin surgeries. Joe Biden, Sr the father evaded military service as a draft dodger in WWII.

    November 2, 2009 04:06 pm at 4:06 pm |
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