November 2nd, 2009
05:54 PM ET
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Biden stumps for Owens, takes dig at Palin

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(CNN) - Vice President Joe Biden challenged Republican voters in New York's 23rd congressional district to teach conservative "absolutists" a lesson in the special House election Tuesday by voting for the Democratic candidate in the race.

"We aren't asking you to switch your party," Biden said at a rally for Democrat Bill Owens in Watertown, New York Monday morning. "We are just saying join us in teaching a lesson to those absolutists who say no dissent is permitted within your own party."

The comments come a day after Republican Dede Scozzafava, who withdrew from the race Saturday amid heavy pressure from conservatives - endorsed Owens. Many high-profile Republicans, including Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, and Dick Armey, have already thrown their own support behind third-party conservative candidate Doug Hoffman.

Related: Scozzafava campaigns for Owens

In his remarks at the rally for Owens, Biden elicited boos from the crowd when he mentioned Palin, Limbaugh and Armey.

"The idea that Rush Limbaugh would handpick [the] successor is kind of unusual," Biden said of the popular conservative radio host who has heavily backed Hoffman over the national party's choice of Scozzafava.

"I would have thought the last person I would bring up to the North Country is Dick Armey," Biden continued, pointing to the former Texas congressman and current chairman of the conservative group FreedomWorks. "He's a decent guy, but he represents a view so alien it seems to me to the pragmatism to the North Country. Sarah Palin, a former governor - her views are real and consistent with Armey's and Limbaugh's and Dick Cheney's."

"This is a different ideology," Biden continued. "This is different than anything I've known in my 45 years of being familiar with this district. You know, they may not have any room for moderate views in the Republican Party upstate anymore, but let me assure you, we have room, we have room."

Later in his remarks, the vice president couldn't help but return to the subject of the former Alaska governor when the issue of energy came up.

"Sarah Palin thinks the answer to energy is 'Drill, baby, drill,' he said, leaning into the microphone. "It's a lot more complicated, Sarah, than drill baby drill."

A just-released Siena College poll suggests Hoffman holds a 5-point lead over Owens, while 18 percent of likely remain undecided.

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin fired back at Biden Monday. "As the vice president knows, I have always advocated an all-of-the-above approach to American energy independence," Palin wrote in a note on her Facebook page. "There's one way to tell Vice President Biden that we're tired of folks in Washington distorting our message and hampering our nation's progress: Hoffman, Baby, Hoffman!."

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soundoff (274 Responses)
  1. Sgt. USMC

    dick, sarah & rush. ENOUGH SAID.

    November 2, 2009 01:46 pm at 1:46 pm |
  2. chubby

    NO THANK YOU BIDEN. The vast majority of Americans are conservative, not Republican,not democrat and definitely not a liberal. There should be three liberals under the bus this week and alot more to be put under the bus in 2010 and 2012. NOW THATS CHANGE THIS COUNTRY CAN BELIEVE IN.

    November 2, 2009 01:48 pm at 1:48 pm |
  3. USA

    I like the Woman, but when it comes to be a speaker, a Politicians she is not qualify yet for it, if America Elect Sarah Palin for president, Things that will never happen it would be a disaster.

    November 2, 2009 01:49 pm at 1:49 pm |
  4. RPK518

    Once again what does NY23 have to do Obama..... Nothing its a 70/30 district.If the republicant loss its more about the Republicans and maybe about one poorest part of NY State

    November 2, 2009 01:49 pm at 1:49 pm |
  5. Proud Member..Party of Dumbasrocks

    Democrats "trying to salvage an election or two"??? Except for NJ, the elections are occurring in red enclaves that [R]s have been winning for a century. And these elections are what you vacuous rightwingers are clinging to as a sign of your resurrection from political death? Because a bunch of toothless, mumbling, klansmen might leave their stills unguarded long enough to put their mark on a ballot - this is what you count on for your political resurgance??!!!!

    That you simpletons want to rule and ruin this country once again is just stunning. It would be like putting armed nazis back in power in Germany in 1947.

    November 2, 2009 01:49 pm at 1:49 pm |
  6. phoenix86

    I couldn't think of a better reason to vote conservative than Joe Biden advising against doing so.

    November 2, 2009 01:50 pm at 1:50 pm |
  7. Diana

    I'm a conservative but hey people last year at this time my 401k was DOA and now not only has it come back but it's bigger than it was when GW was in office. Yes there is a lot more work to be done but I recall when a lot or people wanted Pres. Obama to get sworn in early just so he could do something about the economy because GW was tired and had run out of ideas to fix the country. It took time to get into this mess and it will take time to get out of it. So stop blaming Pres. Obama and blame yourselves.

    November 2, 2009 01:52 pm at 1:52 pm |
  8. Dee

    Palin, Limbaugh, Armey=Want to police your thoughts, beliefs and behavior–The American Taliban

    November 2, 2009 01:53 pm at 1:53 pm |
  9. Jann in Denver

    I agree with the Vice. The Republican party is in shambles and dumb dumb Sara is a disaster for the party! I love every minuted of it!

    November 2, 2009 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  10. HonestMistake

    Really, Joe? How 'bout voters vote for the candidate they think will do the best job.

    November 2, 2009 01:56 pm at 1:56 pm |
  11. tee

    Proud party of no
    Thats what a dumb repug would think......many will not go to the polls tomorrow.....but wouldn't be nice to put the nail in the republiklans coffins.

    November 2, 2009 01:58 pm at 1:58 pm |
  12. Rick CT

    Good thing there are no pressing issues in the job we are paying Biden for so that he can spending most of his time back on the campaign trail. Where do I get a job like that?

    November 2, 2009 02:01 pm at 2:01 pm |
  13. chicago guy

    Wouldn't voting for the actual conservative be the way to teach Republicans a lesson? How does voting for a liberal do anything?

    How about teaching both parties a lesson by voting for an independant?

    November 2, 2009 02:01 pm at 2:01 pm |
  14. Sniffit

    "Democrats should be the last group calling extremists based on you strong handing your moderates to make the wingnut lefts happy with the health bill"

    Fantastic example of just how upside down people are in their analysis as a result of the GOP calling anything having to do with health care reform other than more tax cuts for wealthy Americans and tort reform to help the insurance companies an "extreme leftist" piece of legislature. Hint: Most true progressive liberals consider the public option being offerend an abomination because they recognize that all facts, all empirical evidence, all examples we have from around the world, etc., show without a doubt that single-payer is the only real way to save our health care system, provide for everyone and prevent the economic apocalypse the health care and insurance industries are threatening us with.

    November 2, 2009 02:01 pm at 2:01 pm |
  15. Nea

    Im a Democrat and yes i will continue to vote for the Democratic candidate because of what they stands for the low income and the poor unlike the Republicans that only stands for the rich and the famous and just because the democrats didnt fix everything in 9 months like i would like doesnt meand im going to switch sides like some of you thats double -minded and vote for the republicans.

    November 2, 2009 02:03 pm at 2:03 pm |
  16. Idiot_Pelosi

    And people said PALIN would be a laughing stock. Biden is such a putz. This idiot needs to shut up an lie low.

    Conservatives didn't create the huge deficit (Obummer / Biden did)

    Conservatives didn't raise taxes (Obummer/Biden did)

    Conservatives don't want to pay more taxes to cover Abortion and Sex Gender changes under the proposed HC plan (Obummer / Biden do)

    Biden, PALIN would have made a much better VP.

    November 2, 2009 02:05 pm at 2:05 pm |
  17. chelle

    What the heck happened to America?? You have no idea of your own political history. The Republican Party until very recently, was not just made up of social conservatives!!! It was a fiscally conservative party! One of your most prominent Presidents of the Republican persuasion was a "reformer" (ie a liberal) Does the name Theodore Roosevelt ring a bell?? He was fiscally conservative but engineered sweeping social changes (anti-trust ring a bell), won a Nobel Peace Prize (no isolationism for him!), Add Abraham Lincoln to the mix as well. The GOP has become a shadow of itself and that is sad. Now if you do not agree with the social conservatives you aren't really a Republican!!

    November 2, 2009 02:07 pm at 2:07 pm |
  18. Democrats = party of hate!

    Wow, Joe I thought you and Obama were supposed to unit us all, not further seperate us!

    November 2, 2009 02:07 pm at 2:07 pm |
  19. Bob of Lompoc

    Go Joe Go!

    November 2, 2009 02:08 pm at 2:08 pm |
  20. normajean

    It's odd how Limbaughs name turns up everywhere these days.I'd like to ask his fans a couple of questions. What does Rush ever do but talk? If you need help, a roof over your head,education for your kids, food on the table. Do you go to Rush? No. All he does is talk, hate talk at that. This man has only a high school education,flunked out of college,army didn't want him and yet who do you listen to? Wise up guys. He's not working his butt off to help you get ahead, he doesn't care if your sick kids don't have a doctor. He has said loudly and often, MONEY is his god.This is the mouth that you believe in? Your president {whomever he might be at the time and all those people we vote to send to Washington{although they aren't perfect either} are working,working not talking.

    November 2, 2009 02:09 pm at 2:09 pm |
  21. Jake

    I can't believe the bashing that Palin is getting on her calls for people to vote their conscious. Everyone on the Comment section is calling her a dumb woman from Alaska. Well, let me say that she is not as dumb as the Vice President from Delaware that Obama selected. All I can say is "GO PALIN" run your mouth and let the Liberals know that Obama is a one term president and a lot of congressional member's who have supported the Healthcare Bill and support destruction of our constitutional rights. YOU TOO will be finished in 2010 and 2012.

    November 2, 2009 02:10 pm at 2:10 pm |
  22. Hammerer

    Maybe Biden should pay attention, he could learn something!

    November 2, 2009 02:12 pm at 2:12 pm |
  23. Larry S

    Here is a great idea . . . some great facts for the vp, and other liberals:
    1) You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
    2) What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
    3) The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
    4) When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.
    5) You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

    November 2, 2009 02:12 pm at 2:12 pm |
  24. Doug

    Joe say it ain't so Biden, a carpetcarrier if there was ever one. Let the people in this district make up their own minds. The white house will soon learn that last year's election is well over. Change is still coming, just wait a little bit longer.

    November 2, 2009 02:14 pm at 2:14 pm |
  25. Vince

    Biden said at a rally for Democrat Bill Owens in Watertown, New York Monday morning. "We are just saying join us in teaching a lesson to those absolutists who say no dissent is permitted within your own party."

    So Joe, who do the Moderate Democrates join to teach a lesson to the "absolutists" Left in your party who say no dissent is not permitted?????

    November 2, 2009 02:15 pm at 2:15 pm |
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