December 26th, 2009
10:50 AM ET
soundoff (41 Responses)
  1. Henry Miller, Libertarian

    There shouldn't be any more work to do on this bit of tyranny–it's an unconstitutional power-grab that should never even have gotten off the ground.

    December 26, 2009 11:41 am at 11:41 am |
  2. SocialismBad

    Don't you mean more work to do TO KILL this healthcare? If the Democrats think this fight is over they'd better think again. It will be fought every step of the way. The final battles will occurr in Nov. of 2010 and 2012 when the criminals that voted for this assault on our rights and wallets get thrown out of office.

    The American public will not forget about this, who did it and those that forced it upon us will pay with their jobs.

    December 26, 2009 11:52 am at 11:52 am |
  3. W l Jones

    As far the healhcare bill being complete ! raise a question. it took over two hundred years to complete our contitution. Enough said.

    December 26, 2009 11:56 am at 11:56 am |
  4. Jimbo

    President Obama has been in office for less than one year. During that time he has restored our image to the world as a strong but compassionate leader of the free world; passed landmark heath care legislation despite no help or any ideas from those who will never accept him as President...oh, and won the Nobel Peace Prize. If he continues on this pace over te next seven years they better make room for another figure in Mount Rushmore...!

    December 26, 2009 11:57 am at 11:57 am |
  5. DEM in HI

    This bill is going against exactly what Obama promised during the elections. There are so many earmarks that this is a pig before it gets implemented. He is raising the medicare with holding tax on all wage earners, so how is that not a tax increase? What happened to posting the bill 2 days ahead of a vote so all can read it? How does one state get exempted from ever having to pay Medicare costs? That is unconstitutional IAW the equal protection law. Congress has no right to force people to do anything. This is an attack on the constitution and no where does it state that the government can force you do something? It is lame to compare this with car insurances, because I have the coice to drive or to take a bus. Then why no press coverage about the lifetime ban to modify certain parts of the bill?

    Neither party and the press never addressed the REAL Health care issues: shortages of doctors and nurses, high malpractice insurance premiums, sky rocketing Health insurance premiums, high cost of medical equipment and why is health insurance and costs on tax forms figured with an AGI index? I consider myself a moderate, and I hate to say it, but both parties have forgotten who they represent. Next year I will vote anyone in office out.

    December 26, 2009 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm |
  6. New Yorker

    Henry Miller, Libertarian ... is correct. Unfortunately, the younger voters have been duped through the public "education" system and liberal colleges into thinking this is a good thing for the country. I'm not sure they even know what the Constitution is for. Well, they've left the "straight and narrow" and opted for the wide and "crooked" so voila! they will live captive to their own government while their own sweat pays the salaries of the elite.

    December 26, 2009 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm |
  7. ib

    Kill this stupid debt adding bill and start over. this bill is a disgrace to the people that voted for it; vote them out next time they are up for re-election; I intend to.

    December 26, 2009 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm |
  8. Hugo

    More work to do by the Dumbocrats on healthcare... I listened to a democratic strategist this morning discuss their blow hard "cut the deficit" stance on the increased tax cost coming to us all. When it came to tort law reform, he stated that it was not considered significant because it only equated to about 50 billion a year, a very small amount! I wonder if the increased costs to us all by these idiotic lawsuits was considered or if this was just the lump sum they dug out of some bureacratic bean counters cubicle. These elitist idiots in DC are CLUELESS, We as American citizens have allowed our Congress (both parties) to evolve into full blown open corruption, they have failed us and will continue to do so until the American people stand together to rid ourselves of these vermin!

    December 26, 2009 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
  9. Karine

    Have Americans lost their moral compass.??
    How can you accept pay offs for votes by seedy politicians and not be outraged.
    This, one might see in third world countries , but in America.?

    December 26, 2009 12:32 pm at 12:32 pm |
  10. Hammerer

    Congress had to buy at least 10 Senators and Obama sold out to the drug makers and the insurance companies for what? So he could say he passed a bill.
    For all of his supporters, those of them that work which is very few, when the taxes start and the healthcare is nonexistent they will not have Bush to blame.

    December 26, 2009 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm |
  11. unemployed by Obama

    What you are really going to have to figurer out is HOW to get people to not file lawsuits based on CONSTITUTIONALITY and Obama will lose.

    December 26, 2009 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm |
  12. Jason Foucauldian

    I love how people repeat what they hear on fox news. You should not be allowed to use the word "jihadist" or "tyranny" unless you look up the words in a dictionary, think about it for a day, and then have someone(that is not your fellow tea party member) confirm your understanding of the word.

    I read these comments every day and people who oppose Obama either allude to him having a Muslim name or that he is not following what the founding fathers wrote 200+ years ago to support their mercantile and cotton growing. I am sure most of you do not even have ancestors that stretch back that far. You most likely have relatives who came to the US to avoid war and to overcome the limitations placed on them by an oligarchical capitalist caste.

    December 26, 2009 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
  13. jane

    More work to do on health care? Is there ever!

    There must at least be a provision for 55 and over seniors to buy in to medicare. Those in this group must be the hardest hit by Bush's failed economy. With lost jobs, lost insurance, dwindling or lost 401 K's , and now a dwindling anticipated social security income, what are they do to? They are too old to realistically expect to be re-hired, regardless of age discrimination laws. And they are too young for medicare. What they will do is live in fear, hundreds of thousands of them, probably more.

    If a Democratic majority in Congress turns a blind eye, what are they there for? Why are they Democrats?

    December 26, 2009 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |
  14. S Callahan- He LIVES so ALL man can know peace and love!

    Personally, I think what is on the table is a mess...and they certainly have a alot of garbage to throw out in refining this. As well, a promise was made that must be kept...NO federal dollars for abortions as promised (that includes dollars used to fund any insurance plan).

    December 26, 2009 01:14 pm at 1:14 pm |
  15. TSR2010

    This health insurance bill is just the beginning. The democrats will not stop until there is socialized medicine under a single payer, government run system.

    December 26, 2009 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  16. jules sand-perkins

    Of course, the attack on our military at Ft. Hood was terrorism by a Jihadist!
    Nobody said anything because the bowing bias by the President is so laughable that only a child without guile would point at the naked emperor.

    December 26, 2009 01:29 pm at 1:29 pm |
  17. jules sand-perkins

    The further work to be done on ObamaCare:


    December 26, 2009 01:31 pm at 1:31 pm |
  18. Michael from Ventura

    You right wing nuts need to GET A LIFE! Healthcare is important to this country. As far as it being "unConstitutional"- the Bush Administration and Cheney in particularr, used the Constitution for toilet paper for 8 years! We at last have a President who BELIEVES in and works within the Constitution.

    December 26, 2009 02:04 pm at 2:04 pm |
  19. Terry from West Texas

    Henry Miller, Libertarian wrote: "There shouldn't be any more work to do on this bit of tyranny–it's an unconstitutional power-grab that should never even have gotten off the ground."

    Unconstitutional? That is a matter of opinion I guess, and whatever the Supreme Court says is the definition of what is unconstitutional? This is essentially a health insurance regulation bill. There is no real government insurance like Medicare in the bill, due to a lack of spinal material on the part of our elected officials. The government regulates insurance companies in many ways. Did the founding fathers anticipate modern medicine, modern pharmacology, health insurance, global corporations, and fast-food obesity? Not that I have read of.

    You Libertarians are obsessed with a nutty interpretation of economic theory and have built it into something like a religion. Adam Smith is its prophet and profit is its only sacrament. What is never discussed in Libertarianism's airy-fairy theories is the plight of the citizen who is ill-served by the free market – and there are hundreds of millions of us in this country alone.

    Global corporations have learned that competition is inefficient. Giant corporations have always preferred slicing up the market rather than fighting over it, and that is what they are doing. They also prefer purchasing a competitor to competing with him. Also, contrary to what Libertarians believe, global corporations prefer to compete in their advertising campaigns INSTEAD of improving their product or lowering their price. Marketing a product has become a large part of the price of that product, so consumers are paying for skillful marketing rather than the best product at the lowest price. I mean, what is the real difference between the best selling brand of cola flavored soda pop (let's call it Kookie Kola) and the lowest selling brand (let's call that one Kookamonga Cola)? They are both made of filtered city water, coloring, flavoring, corn syrup, and caffeine (added for its addictive properties).

    December 26, 2009 02:11 pm at 2:11 pm |
  20. T'SAH from Virginia

    Of course more work needs to be done on the health care bill. That was the intentions in the first place.

    President Obama is a very smart man and he will get what he wants in this bill.... Don't be surprised when the PUBLIC OPTION returns!!

    December 26, 2009 02:16 pm at 2:16 pm |
  21. TOTUS

    Any more of this "Democrats Gone Wild" business and it will certainly seal our fate.

    December 26, 2009 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
  22. The only work they should be doing.....

    on this healthcare monstrosity is burning it...............

    It has no public option and therefore there is no competition for the insurance companies....did you notice their stocks went to new highs this week....the insurance companies won........

    There is no payment for abortion so all the pro-choice people have to eat crow again.......

    the 5.4 % tax on the wealthy was dropped because most Senators fall in that class....

    Ben Nelson won, Blanche Lincoln won, Mary Landrieu won, the American middle class lost again......and they are the ones who will pay the taxes and increased premiums to pay for this monstrosity...

    December 26, 2009 02:22 pm at 2:22 pm |
  23. Gerry NH

    Health care reform is necessary but this bill as it is is not health care reform. This is a small stab at health insurance reform. Taking $500 billion out of medicare will really hurt the the seniors in this country.

    December 26, 2009 02:24 pm at 2:24 pm |
  24. phillip Marlowe

    What has Obama accomplished besides trying to get our enemies to hate us less? Iran hasn't changed, the war is killing more Americans, jihad is still warring against us, oh right, why do anything when you still get rewarded, aka Nobel Peace Prize.

    December 26, 2009 02:29 pm at 2:29 pm |
  25. Beverly in NC

    Yes, the Senate and House bill must be meshed together. Let's hope the public option remains in the final law. It is the critical piece that brings real CHOICE for us and solid COMPETITION to the greedy, abusive insurance industry. With no public option the insurance companies still have too much power and little incentive to treat us like human beings.

    We have been fighting Republicans for more than 50 years to get programs passed that everyone depends on today. If it were up to Republicans, there would be NO Social Security, NO Medicare, NO Medicaid, NO 40 hour work weeks, NO end to child labor, NO unemployment insurance, NO minimum wage and on and on.

    Democrats have been responsible for all the critical laws that have helped and protected Americans for nearly a century. Republicans have fought to the death to keep any progressive programs for the People from happening. They are doing it now with healthcare reform.

    Later, we will look back and say "how did we ever survive without the healthcare reform benefits passed by the Democrats?" Remember who has always stood up the PEOPLE and the Republicans who have always tried to kill it. The more Democrats we get into Congress in 2010 the more beneficial legislation to restore our nation will happen and happen far faster.

    December 26, 2009 02:41 pm at 2:41 pm |
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