Stupak not happy with Obama's health care proposal
[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/02/23/art.stupak.0222.gi.jpg caption="Democratic Rep. Bart Stupak is unhappy with President Obama’s health care proposal."](CNN) - As House Democrats worry about complaints from the left over President Obama's health care plan, Michigan Democrat Bart Stupak is sternly reminding the White House and Speaker Nancy Pelosi that abortion remains an unresolved, red hot issue on the right.
"Unfortunately, the president's proposal encompasses the Senate language allowing public funding of abortion," Stupak wrote in a statement released Tuesday morning.
He was unequivocal in the next line, saying, "The Senate language is a significant departure from current law and is unacceptable."
The House narrowly adopted its health care bill only after including Stupak's more conservative language on abortion funding. Some 64 Democrats voted for the Stupak amendment in a separate vote.
Stupak would block health care subsidies not only from directly funding abortions but also from supporting an individual to buy an insurance plan that covers abortion. The Senate and the president would also ban direct funding of abortions but would require insurers to wall off or separate the costs of abortions so that subsidized patients must pay for those with their own personal funds.
There is extensive debate over which measure best complies with current law limiting federal abortion funding and whether the Senate version does or does not allow public funding of abortion.
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Bye bye democrats. Enjoy unemployment come January.
The plan is not going to fly. Put it in file 13, and go back to the drawing board.....but not until you do have done something meaningful about jobs!
Abortion is not a health issue. Women don't die from abortions any more. They used to, but they don't any more since abortions became as legal as appendectomies.
If the Conservative witch hunters get to deny legal procedures to women who want an abortion, then I want to pick a medical prodedure and deny it to everyone who is against legal abortions. I'm thinking maybe diabetes or maybe cancer treatment should not be paid out of government funds for anyone who is opposed to legal abortion.
If they can tell others what doctors can do for them, then let me outlaw a few medical procedures for them.
Of course not. What else would you expect from Stupid. Why, doesn't it have an anti-anti-anti abortion amendment in it? Currently the American taxpayer does not fund abortions and we won't with the new and improved health care bill either. What's up with this guy? Let's get a Public Option and get this thing passed. My health care insurance is already going up because the insurance companies are running scared and it's only going to get worse unless we give them some competition. If they go out of business, fine by me. They deserve to. They have made too much money off us for too long and their oversite and overpayments to hospitals and doctors has been atrocious over the years.
can someone explain the difference between these two provisions described in this article? Sounds like the same thing using different language.
Stupak would block health care subsidies not only from directly funding abortions but also from supporting an individual to buy an insurance plan that covers abortion.
The Senate and the president would also ban direct funding of abortions but would require insurers to wall off or separate the costs of abortions so that subsidized patients must pay for those with their own personal funds.
Now there is a dem with some sense. If you want an abortion without medical cause you should at least pay for it yourself! It is time to take personal responsibility for our own lives. Obama doesn't want to lose the support of Planned Parenthood. The problem is they are less about Parenthood and more about making profit in the baby destruction trade!
No Big Brother state, down with the Cult of Personality!
Isn't it amazing that these religious bible thumpers thing they have the right to shove their religious convictions down everyone else's throat?
I hope the Senate does the right and wise thing and passes the House bill with the public option.
Poor Bart, does he not realize this ideological not practical. Obozo and the libs want a win so badly and will step over his body to get it. Poor deluded fools do not realize how corrupt, crooked and immoral the liberals that have hijacked the Democratic party are.
This guy is using this issue again because he knows if he tells us hes just a bagman for United Health Group he has no traction at all,nice try Bart.Abortion should be put on a public referendum once and for all, if you want to be judge and jury over someone elses body, and quit being used as a political football.
I am not happy with either. It is a proven fact that our quality of coverage is going descrease and our deficit will rise tremendously. This bill needs to be scratched and started over. I do not want my quality of care to diminish at all. I pay enough taxes as it is.
Stupak, abortion is a legal medical procedure. Your demand to discriminate against women is unconstitutional and unnecessary. There are already restrictions on spending federal funds for elective surgery and, if it is necessary for a woman's health and life, it should be funded the same as any other lifesaving procedure.
Besides, I don't get to choose which stupid Congressmen and Senators that my taxes are used to fund! If I did, you'd be packing your bags right now!
Ok, here is the compromise.
We will add check boxes to the IRS returns.
One will allow taxpayers to refuse to have their taxes used to fund abortions.
One will allow taxpayers to refuse to have their taxes used to fund undeclared, elective wars.
Deal?
Use birthcontrol or pay for your muder with your own dime
Michigan, lets please vote this conservative clown out! This self fulfilling, narrow-minded conservative is taking health care reform hostage for the gains of his own anti-abortion crusade. His plan makes federal anti-abortion law harsher than it's ever been. I don't care what side of the abortion debate you're on, but don't take health care reform hostage to advance your views. propose a separate bill for it and then we'll all see how congress votes on it.
Ok, here is the compromise.
We will add check boxes to the IRS returns.
One will allow taxpayers to refuse to have their taxes used to fund abortions.
One will allow taxpayers to refuse to have their taxes used to fund undeclared, elective wars.
We will call them the “pro-life” choice boxes.
Deal?
Odumbo just doesnt care about the life of an unborn child and wants you and I to pay for it. NO WAY NO HOW is that going to happen. Using my money to kill a child is no differant than me sticking a knife into someones chest untill they are dead. Both the money and the knife are the same as far as IM concerned. Both equal death to a human being.
This president (and IM sad to say that) is a mindless, heartless peice of dung to even try and get this pushed through.
Odumbo knows that he is a one term president and now doesnt care what he does. If it were up to him we would all be brain dead and following his rule. That isnt going to happen either Odumbo. Your done in 2012, Thank God
2010/2012 REAL Change is coming
Here lays the problem, other than their personal moral conviction, why shouldn't abortion be covered? Most people who are anti-abortion (or pro-life) are basing that view on religious values, which is NO REASON to base any legislation in the United States. If, as they put it, abortion is murder then they need to investigate all miscarriages as potential homicides, caused by the mother jeopardizing the life of their unborn babies, which is completely absurd; both in the ability of enforcement and the violation of Constitutional rights. Let's base our laws on well thought-out reason and not knee-jerk emotional response based on our own prejudges.
once again our president is being stone-walled by his own dem party. i love an support president obama but i can not stand most of the dems in congress. it is time for all old to leave and we must elect fresh young blood that can an will work with our president to get american's needs met. shame on the democrats for showing such weakness since obama was elected. i will vote second term for president obama but will not vote democrat for anyone else.i am embarrassed at their behavior.
I am belived that untied states will not be happy with obams about health care but obama have too much problems
Thanks
Why is it that men think they have the last word over womens health? Remember boys...we are going to leave you behind. We are stronger, smarter and much more determined than you. Looks good for my daughters future.
Just think about it, a majority of women in congress could outlaw Viagra....would love to see that.
Does this idiot read any polls? When is he going to realize that this is not an issue with either conservatives or liberals? When you are not getting a paycheck or do not have health insurance someone getting an abortion is about as far from your mind as thinking about earthworms! This is another fine example of how truly out of touch Congress (and it's members) are with the american public. Get rid of these idiots!
LEAVE our party go to the GOP where you belong our tent is full...please get out
This should be fun to follow today. I'm looking forward to the spewing of vitriol from the lefty members of the party of diversity, tolerance, and women's rights.
As a female, personally I could not have an abortion, but I have no right to dictate to other females.