Jeez......just declare a moratorium on ALL immigration. Close the gates!!!
June 29, 2010 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
Dutch/Bad Newz, VA
Republicans are going to get their panties in a bunch if the President tries to pass immigration reform this year. I say go for it!!! There is only one party in Washington that is WORKING and it's not the Party of No.
June 29, 2010 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
Fed Up
Once again, Obama is behind the 8 ball. Arizona had to take the lead in immigration. Let's see how many illegals he allows to be citizens now.
June 29, 2010 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
enough already
I can assume that this will be another speech stating vague generalities with no specifics by what he means by immigration reform. Yes, Mr. President, we know there's a problem that must be addressed. NO, Mr. President, that does not entail amnesty or any thinly veiled attempt towards such.
June 29, 2010 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
Gale
"Need" for reform? What about reform! Yes, go on down and get your picture made for a photo of, and maybe someday we can get down to the real reform!!
June 29, 2010 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
Steve in North Carolina
Get ready people. Can you spell AMNESTY?
June 29, 2010 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
Take America Back
This is a "lose-Lose" for Obambi.....the Liberal Left is willing to push him over the cliff as long as they get their way, and seemingly Obambi is ok with allowing them to do it.....so I say Go for it!!! This is one battle Obambi will lose!
June 29, 2010 01:27 pm at 1:27 pm |
Carl
We don't need more speeches. We don't need another policy. We don't need more reform. We need for this derelict president to perform his constitutional duty to enforce the laws already on the books and secure our border. This president's deliberate disregard for the law in favor of his own personal policies "because he won" should be sufficient warning to the American people. He has absolutely no concern for the people of border states, and won't allow them to defend themselves from the invasion of illegal aliens; just as he has no concern for people who live on the Gulf of Mexico who are watching their environment, jobs and lifestyles disappear under a layer of oil he will not allow to be cleaned up. He must go. But first, he must be stopped. Vote out his corrupted collaborators in congress this November. Out all of the incumbents.
June 29, 2010 01:30 pm at 1:30 pm |
REG in AZ
There is a lot being said by a lot of people from different perspectives and to justify different biases, so what does simple, honest common sense say versus just being conned?
JOBS: Reducing taxes for the very wealthy really only guarantees more money for them, as companies only expand and create more jobs based on the supporting market and that means when the public is spending in a strong economy. The current status, where banks and companies have money but are holding back waiting for the market to turn, is a prime example of what really happens. The con that giving the very few more money will stimulate them to spend on creating jobs is illogical as they realize to expand before the market supports it is literally flirting with disaster.
TAXES: Worrying about taxes now is like ‘putting the cart before the horse’ as it is a valid concern only for those who presently have it abundantly. Those without or who are stretched thin would be glad to have a larger tax burden based on a robust economy providing them a larger income. Even the upper middle class should see that a larger net is what is really important. The con that increased taxes are a real current threat is unfounded and is self-serving for only the few.
‘SOCIALISM v CONSERVATISM’ and the ECONOMY: Government spending should be seen as ‘priming the pump’ even when creating more government jobs than private sector jobs. As the government spends, creating government jobs and buying services and supplies from the private sector (and repairing long neglected infrastructure and services), it puts money into the economy and stimulates individual spending, which then grows the private sector, encouraging recovery and a resulting robust economy. Effective social programs also help in bringing the poor up to contribute to an overall sound and, again, robust economy that benefits everyone, including even generating recyclable profits for companies and the wealthy. The con that ‘Socialism’ is a bad term and ‘Conservatism’ is the appropriate way really attempts to use extremes as emotional appeals just to manipulate public opinion.
‘CENTRIST’: The Bush-Cheney years clearly demonstrated that giving Carte Blanche to Special Interests and catering to the influential, powerful and extremely wealthy few fails miserably and ultimately costs the vast majority significantly. Their gross dishonesty and unconscionable irresponsibility represented a severe sociopathic mentality that was rationalized as ‘conservative’. Extreme and enduring ‘socialism’ is not the answer for America either. A non-extreme ‘centrist’ position is the only rational approach and the con is when either extreme is advocated, as neither totally benefits more than just a few.
DEFICIT: The deficit is a serious concern that needs to be both viewed realistically and then addressed responsibly. To insure the ability to sustain a strong and worldwide competitive economy the deficit has to be responsibly resolved. Not to do so would just result in run-away inflation and a drastic devaluation of the dollar … but to curtail government spending before reestablishing the economy on strong footing would be to encourage extreme deflation and a depression. The key is to be responsibly addressing the problem and the con is to fault whatever the opposition is doing.
‘TRICKLE DOWN’ v ‘BUBBLE UP’: The touted ‘trickle down’ theory has proven to be a fraud that benefits only those at the very top as their spending neither necessarily benefits the majority nor does giving them more necessarily stimulate them to spend more. The economy literally functions more as a ‘bubble up’ where when with spending power from the bottom up then the spending throughout stimulates profits and successes that are recycled and do create benefit for everyone. The con is in the saying that giving more to those who already spend whatever they want, will stimulate the economy by their spending more in a way that benefits everyone.
‘REGULATIONS’ v ‘DEREGULATION’: After what we have experienced there should be no doubt that ‘deregulation’, ‘open markets’ and ‘small government’ can be rationalizations to justify an irresponsible lack of rules, lax enforcement and non-existent oversight that allows run-away greed, self indulgence and gross dishonesty to run havoc and cost everyone, except a very few, drastically. History shows that this mentality, which is much like ‘pyramid schemes’, has cycled through crisis after crisis in Savings & Loans, Banks, dotcoms, real estate, financial & investment industries and always with a very few winning significantly while the vast majority looses greatly. Again a ‘centrist’ position is needed and the con is that a ‘conservative’ open market mentality is better.
POLITICAL REFORM: There are three obvious truths about political reform: one, is it is desperately needed; two, that it literally can’t be accomplished without eliminating the control of the money people, needing to get money out of politics; and three, the incumbents, the lobbyists and the influential, powerful and extremely wealthy few will fight reform like mad. The con would be that they are expressing their rights which America needs to protect.
All of the above are just very basic common sense evaluations but many times we overlook the simple, especially when being bombarded with a lot of subterfuge and emotional appeals aimed to sway us and manipulate public opinion. I personally think everyone needs to think for themselves, being rational and objective, to resist the scare tactics and the emotional appeals to biases, prejudices and attachments. The politicians who are ‘puppets’ for Special Interests and the select few are at fault but the voters who buy into the subterfuge are equally the problem. There are those who literally only have their ambitions in mind and to allow ourselves to be conned by them will provide absolutely no solace or relief later.
June 29, 2010 01:30 pm at 1:30 pm |
John
What a joke? You are going to stand for this. Stop babying the mexicans mooches and create some jobs, instead of trying to be the Paris Hilton of D.C. Did you forget about the people of Illinois? Arizona is extremely correct on thier issue.
June 29, 2010 01:31 pm at 1:31 pm |
PalmReader
Lack of GOP leadership and the willingness to allow the Tea Party to speak for all republicans has absolutely backfired upon the GOP.
To give Bush credit, he did try to bring Immigration Reform to Congress during a time when GOPers had full control of both the House and the Senate. Unfortunately, the GOPers refused, not wanting to damage what they perceived as a political advantage with Hispanic voters.
So, GOPers. What will it be THIS time . . . walk the walk, or just talk the talk in an effort to once again fault President Obama?
Quite frankly GOPers, the anti-Obama rhetoric is nothing more than the stench of pure desperation coming from the Party of corporate greed.
June 29, 2010 01:31 pm at 1:31 pm |
Eric
"Immigration reform" is Obama-speak for amnesty.
...or as I like to call it, "Recruitin' a sh!tload of new 'victims,' welfare recipients and liberal voters (all one in the same)."
I'm sorry, but take your border jumping @$$ to the back of the line and APPLY for citizenship, like MY family did at Ellis Island.
Obama-lama-ding-dong's illegal immigration (sh)amnesty is exactly that, a sham. Further, it's an insult to those who valued the integrity of the process and their new nation, by taking the time to stand in line and go through the required process. Border jumpers are no different than line jumpers, or as kids used to say, "cutters."
June 29, 2010 01:32 pm at 1:32 pm |
Lisa
Of course he is! Of course he wants REFORM aka: amnesty for millions of criminals.
OBAMA is a failure at leading this country. All he has done is chip away at her until one day, nothing will be left.
Reform... NO ENFORCEMENT, YES!!!
June 29, 2010 01:34 pm at 1:34 pm |
John
Why not pass the unemployment bill before you stand for a bunch of scumbag Mexicans?
June 29, 2010 01:35 pm at 1:35 pm |
citizen
NO amnesty to illegal aliens.
June 29, 2010 01:36 pm at 1:36 pm |
Jerry - Florida
Mr. Johnny Come Lately, man up! This is too little , too late. You and your lying/idiotic cronies stay out of Arizona!
You bunch of hypocrites!
June 29, 2010 01:36 pm at 1:36 pm |
Ron in California.
As I see it history repeats itself. So here is what you can expect...grand words and little action. The problem is that both Dems and Republicans are more concened about reelection than solving the problem. While I feel sorry that Mexico is a corrupt country unwilling to allow its citizens to prosper, it is not my problem. Allowing
Mexicans to enter and remain in the US will ultimately do great harm to all Americans. And yes even those who are now here illegaly . Those folks who demonstrate against reform are misguided. It is they who will pay in the long run. If you think I am wrong...just reflect on the past 25 years. The problem has only gotten worse and who pays the price...WE DO!
June 29, 2010 01:36 pm at 1:36 pm |
Cindy Nesmith
Is this one of the reasons the US is going to hell in a handbasket, because the President of the US spends his time making up and delivering teleprompter speeches that mean nothing? He is on TV everyday, for goodness sake. Why is that necessary? Is he such a narcissist that he likes to look at re-runs???
June 29, 2010 01:39 pm at 1:39 pm |
thor
If Obama really wanted to do something about immigration he would seal the nation's borders. He would put armed troops along the borders with Mexico with orders to shoot to kill.As Hillary said during the presidental campaign the man give good speeches. There's little else !!!
June 29, 2010 01:39 pm at 1:39 pm |
gt
his plan ....no jobs in america .... go home....
June 29, 2010 01:42 pm at 1:42 pm |
GI Joe
The republicans will already be on airplanes headed home to spread more of their propaganda, lies, hate, and fear.
Only supporters of immigration reform will be listening. Can't wait to hear the speech.
June 29, 2010 01:43 pm at 1:43 pm |
David
That's right, lets give illegals reform, when gay americans, who pay taxes, who should have rights, are continued to be descriminated against. Yes President Obama, we hear you. One issue at a time, it is just not our time. Your executive orders are worthless, when the next administration can simply reverse them.
June 29, 2010 01:44 pm at 1:44 pm |
Obozo's Recod Deficit + Higher Taxes
Oh,here it comes.
Amnesty, and more free social welfare.
Which part of ILLEGAL do DUMocRATs not understand?
OBOZO is such a joke
June 29, 2010 01:46 pm at 1:46 pm |
blah blah blah blah
Get ready for another Pesident O'blah blah speeh with lots of nice words, promises, eloquent pharses, and praise for his Latino voting base – both legal and illegal. But that is all we get - words. No action – just words.
June 29, 2010 01:47 pm at 1:47 pm |
phoenix86
Dear Obama,
How many Americans need to be the victim of violent crime before you secure the border?
How many women need to be trafficed before you secure the border?
How much illegal drugs need to be smuggled in and sold on our streets before you secure the border?
Does Main Street really need to bleed until you get your amnesty program through?
Jeez......just declare a moratorium on ALL immigration. Close the gates!!!
Republicans are going to get their panties in a bunch if the President tries to pass immigration reform this year. I say go for it!!! There is only one party in Washington that is WORKING and it's not the Party of No.
Once again, Obama is behind the 8 ball. Arizona had to take the lead in immigration. Let's see how many illegals he allows to be citizens now.
I can assume that this will be another speech stating vague generalities with no specifics by what he means by immigration reform. Yes, Mr. President, we know there's a problem that must be addressed. NO, Mr. President, that does not entail amnesty or any thinly veiled attempt towards such.
"Need" for reform? What about reform! Yes, go on down and get your picture made for a photo of, and maybe someday we can get down to the real reform!!
Get ready people. Can you spell AMNESTY?
This is a "lose-Lose" for Obambi.....the Liberal Left is willing to push him over the cliff as long as they get their way, and seemingly Obambi is ok with allowing them to do it.....so I say Go for it!!! This is one battle Obambi will lose!
We don't need more speeches. We don't need another policy. We don't need more reform. We need for this derelict president to perform his constitutional duty to enforce the laws already on the books and secure our border. This president's deliberate disregard for the law in favor of his own personal policies "because he won" should be sufficient warning to the American people. He has absolutely no concern for the people of border states, and won't allow them to defend themselves from the invasion of illegal aliens; just as he has no concern for people who live on the Gulf of Mexico who are watching their environment, jobs and lifestyles disappear under a layer of oil he will not allow to be cleaned up. He must go. But first, he must be stopped. Vote out his corrupted collaborators in congress this November. Out all of the incumbents.
There is a lot being said by a lot of people from different perspectives and to justify different biases, so what does simple, honest common sense say versus just being conned?
JOBS: Reducing taxes for the very wealthy really only guarantees more money for them, as companies only expand and create more jobs based on the supporting market and that means when the public is spending in a strong economy. The current status, where banks and companies have money but are holding back waiting for the market to turn, is a prime example of what really happens. The con that giving the very few more money will stimulate them to spend on creating jobs is illogical as they realize to expand before the market supports it is literally flirting with disaster.
TAXES: Worrying about taxes now is like ‘putting the cart before the horse’ as it is a valid concern only for those who presently have it abundantly. Those without or who are stretched thin would be glad to have a larger tax burden based on a robust economy providing them a larger income. Even the upper middle class should see that a larger net is what is really important. The con that increased taxes are a real current threat is unfounded and is self-serving for only the few.
‘SOCIALISM v CONSERVATISM’ and the ECONOMY: Government spending should be seen as ‘priming the pump’ even when creating more government jobs than private sector jobs. As the government spends, creating government jobs and buying services and supplies from the private sector (and repairing long neglected infrastructure and services), it puts money into the economy and stimulates individual spending, which then grows the private sector, encouraging recovery and a resulting robust economy. Effective social programs also help in bringing the poor up to contribute to an overall sound and, again, robust economy that benefits everyone, including even generating recyclable profits for companies and the wealthy. The con that ‘Socialism’ is a bad term and ‘Conservatism’ is the appropriate way really attempts to use extremes as emotional appeals just to manipulate public opinion.
‘CENTRIST’: The Bush-Cheney years clearly demonstrated that giving Carte Blanche to Special Interests and catering to the influential, powerful and extremely wealthy few fails miserably and ultimately costs the vast majority significantly. Their gross dishonesty and unconscionable irresponsibility represented a severe sociopathic mentality that was rationalized as ‘conservative’. Extreme and enduring ‘socialism’ is not the answer for America either. A non-extreme ‘centrist’ position is the only rational approach and the con is when either extreme is advocated, as neither totally benefits more than just a few.
DEFICIT: The deficit is a serious concern that needs to be both viewed realistically and then addressed responsibly. To insure the ability to sustain a strong and worldwide competitive economy the deficit has to be responsibly resolved. Not to do so would just result in run-away inflation and a drastic devaluation of the dollar … but to curtail government spending before reestablishing the economy on strong footing would be to encourage extreme deflation and a depression. The key is to be responsibly addressing the problem and the con is to fault whatever the opposition is doing.
‘TRICKLE DOWN’ v ‘BUBBLE UP’: The touted ‘trickle down’ theory has proven to be a fraud that benefits only those at the very top as their spending neither necessarily benefits the majority nor does giving them more necessarily stimulate them to spend more. The economy literally functions more as a ‘bubble up’ where when with spending power from the bottom up then the spending throughout stimulates profits and successes that are recycled and do create benefit for everyone. The con is in the saying that giving more to those who already spend whatever they want, will stimulate the economy by their spending more in a way that benefits everyone.
‘REGULATIONS’ v ‘DEREGULATION’: After what we have experienced there should be no doubt that ‘deregulation’, ‘open markets’ and ‘small government’ can be rationalizations to justify an irresponsible lack of rules, lax enforcement and non-existent oversight that allows run-away greed, self indulgence and gross dishonesty to run havoc and cost everyone, except a very few, drastically. History shows that this mentality, which is much like ‘pyramid schemes’, has cycled through crisis after crisis in Savings & Loans, Banks, dotcoms, real estate, financial & investment industries and always with a very few winning significantly while the vast majority looses greatly. Again a ‘centrist’ position is needed and the con is that a ‘conservative’ open market mentality is better.
POLITICAL REFORM: There are three obvious truths about political reform: one, is it is desperately needed; two, that it literally can’t be accomplished without eliminating the control of the money people, needing to get money out of politics; and three, the incumbents, the lobbyists and the influential, powerful and extremely wealthy few will fight reform like mad. The con would be that they are expressing their rights which America needs to protect.
All of the above are just very basic common sense evaluations but many times we overlook the simple, especially when being bombarded with a lot of subterfuge and emotional appeals aimed to sway us and manipulate public opinion. I personally think everyone needs to think for themselves, being rational and objective, to resist the scare tactics and the emotional appeals to biases, prejudices and attachments. The politicians who are ‘puppets’ for Special Interests and the select few are at fault but the voters who buy into the subterfuge are equally the problem. There are those who literally only have their ambitions in mind and to allow ourselves to be conned by them will provide absolutely no solace or relief later.
What a joke? You are going to stand for this. Stop babying the mexicans mooches and create some jobs, instead of trying to be the Paris Hilton of D.C. Did you forget about the people of Illinois? Arizona is extremely correct on thier issue.
Lack of GOP leadership and the willingness to allow the Tea Party to speak for all republicans has absolutely backfired upon the GOP.
To give Bush credit, he did try to bring Immigration Reform to Congress during a time when GOPers had full control of both the House and the Senate. Unfortunately, the GOPers refused, not wanting to damage what they perceived as a political advantage with Hispanic voters.
So, GOPers. What will it be THIS time . . . walk the walk, or just talk the talk in an effort to once again fault President Obama?
Quite frankly GOPers, the anti-Obama rhetoric is nothing more than the stench of pure desperation coming from the Party of corporate greed.
"Immigration reform" is Obama-speak for amnesty.
...or as I like to call it, "Recruitin' a sh!tload of new 'victims,' welfare recipients and liberal voters (all one in the same)."
I'm sorry, but take your border jumping @$$ to the back of the line and APPLY for citizenship, like MY family did at Ellis Island.
Obama-lama-ding-dong's illegal immigration (sh)amnesty is exactly that, a sham. Further, it's an insult to those who valued the integrity of the process and their new nation, by taking the time to stand in line and go through the required process. Border jumpers are no different than line jumpers, or as kids used to say, "cutters."
Of course he is! Of course he wants REFORM aka: amnesty for millions of criminals.
OBAMA is a failure at leading this country. All he has done is chip away at her until one day, nothing will be left.
Reform... NO ENFORCEMENT, YES!!!
Why not pass the unemployment bill before you stand for a bunch of scumbag Mexicans?
NO amnesty to illegal aliens.
Mr. Johnny Come Lately, man up! This is too little , too late. You and your lying/idiotic cronies stay out of Arizona!
You bunch of hypocrites!
As I see it history repeats itself. So here is what you can expect...grand words and little action. The problem is that both Dems and Republicans are more concened about reelection than solving the problem. While I feel sorry that Mexico is a corrupt country unwilling to allow its citizens to prosper, it is not my problem. Allowing
Mexicans to enter and remain in the US will ultimately do great harm to all Americans. And yes even those who are now here illegaly . Those folks who demonstrate against reform are misguided. It is they who will pay in the long run. If you think I am wrong...just reflect on the past 25 years. The problem has only gotten worse and who pays the price...WE DO!
Is this one of the reasons the US is going to hell in a handbasket, because the President of the US spends his time making up and delivering teleprompter speeches that mean nothing? He is on TV everyday, for goodness sake. Why is that necessary? Is he such a narcissist that he likes to look at re-runs???
If Obama really wanted to do something about immigration he would seal the nation's borders. He would put armed troops along the borders with Mexico with orders to shoot to kill.As Hillary said during the presidental campaign the man give good speeches. There's little else !!!
his plan ....no jobs in america .... go home....
The republicans will already be on airplanes headed home to spread more of their propaganda, lies, hate, and fear.
Only supporters of immigration reform will be listening. Can't wait to hear the speech.
That's right, lets give illegals reform, when gay americans, who pay taxes, who should have rights, are continued to be descriminated against. Yes President Obama, we hear you. One issue at a time, it is just not our time. Your executive orders are worthless, when the next administration can simply reverse them.
Oh,here it comes.
Amnesty, and more free social welfare.
Which part of ILLEGAL do DUMocRATs not understand?
OBOZO is such a joke
Get ready for another Pesident O'blah blah speeh with lots of nice words, promises, eloquent pharses, and praise for his Latino voting base – both legal and illegal. But that is all we get - words. No action – just words.
Dear Obama,
How many Americans need to be the victim of violent crime before you secure the border?
How many women need to be trafficed before you secure the border?
How much illegal drugs need to be smuggled in and sold on our streets before you secure the border?
Does Main Street really need to bleed until you get your amnesty program through?