September 1st, 2010
12:38 PM ET
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Borger: Will Obama be a Clinton – or a Carter?

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Editor's note: Gloria Borger is a senior political analyst for CNN, appearing regularly on CNN's "The Situation Room," "AC360°," "John King, USA" and "State of the Union" as well as participating in special events coverage.

Washington (CNN) - There are just times, when you are president of the United States, that formally speaking to the American people is part of the job.

Not because it's politically wise, or even politically advisable - but because you have something important to say. As in, the seven-year-combat-mission-in-Iraq-is-over. Or, more specifically, as President Obama said, "it's time to turn the page."

It wasn't a particularly artful speech, nor was it full of new and interesting ideas. It was what it was: a ceremonial proclamation ending combat in a war Obama inherited (and opposed) and a declaration to fight another war (also, as he says, inherited) on the economy.

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  1. Peter s

    Thanks Beth!!! "Obama won't be a Clinton or a Carter. He'll be an Obama. Why are you trying to apply a previous Presidency to a totally new time and era. As far as Obama goes, he is what he is, not what someone else was. Get over the comparisons."

    The meddling in politics is too much because these good for nothing so called political pundits annoints or elects the US presidents!!!. The public is just but a rubber stamp. Sheer manipulation of the citizens minds is the norm with the American media!. No wonder we have lost American competitiveness in the world because the rest just enjoys the circus and applaud!!!!

    September 1, 2010 01:58 pm at 1:58 pm |
  2. w l jones

    The more knowledge a person attain sooner not later they should learnt of all 44 of these USA. president are different there are a reason for it. we have a Democracy to adapt to the every change of our world. The America the beautiful there is power in those word.

    September 1, 2010 01:59 pm at 1:59 pm |
  3. Marcus

    awaitingliberalizationbyCNN – Ineptness and incompetence? Nixon wasn't forced to resign due to those things (the charges were way more bigger), and I recall the ECONOMY numbers at the time of his inauguration, he obviously had not managed (yet) to bring back those DOW/Nasdaq/Unemployement rates numbers back... But to have managed to bring them back from where they were heading...
    Things might get hard and ugly if the Republicans get at least one majority in November, I still remember Gingrich's 'resourcefulness' leading to the closing of the National Parks (and other historical/turistic landmarks) all over the country because he wanted to impose HIS budget to Clinton, and not evaluate Clinton's...
    But, so far, all predictions about the POTUS reactions to this or that issue made by GOPers proved themselves so wrong...

    September 1, 2010 01:59 pm at 1:59 pm |
  4. Angelas

    Obama is worse than Carter so he definitely won't be a Clinton.

    September 1, 2010 02:00 pm at 2:00 pm |
  5. normal in nh

    Are you kidding...? He is going to have to work 7×24 just to best Carter's incompetence.

    September 1, 2010 02:01 pm at 2:01 pm |
  6. normal in nh

    This is exactly what you get when you have a chief executive with no executive experience and an administration full of academics with similarly invisible accomplishments.

    September 1, 2010 02:02 pm at 2:02 pm |
  7. cardog

    So now the polls say that the Republicans are thought better of then the Democrats. Is this poll from the fickled American electorate? Must be, because whoever held the poll most likely talked to mostly Republicans and Tea party supporters. I'm not saying that the poll is invalid, I'm only saying that if this is truly the case, then Americans need to get a grip.

    Do all of us remember the good times under G.W.Bush? Of course you do, you know, the housing bubble, the inflationary growth on Wall Street, playing with borrowed money?? You all remember the Ground Zero attacks and the following two wars we still find ourselves involved in 7 years later. What about the business industry loving this country so much that we no longer have a manufacturing base and millions of jobs headed overseas. God, we can't wait to get back to the good-old days, right.

    Well America, keep listening to the T.V. Talk Show Shock Jocks such as Hannity and the radio Shock Jocks such as Savage, Levine, Ingram and the King Obama hater Limbaugh. Continue to buy into the B/S these people along with their sponsors in the Republican party, Tea Party and Fox News feed you 24/7....

    We were/are in a pile of manure then and as Americans we deserve to return to that pile of manure. It's our manure and we want it back don't we?
    For every right leaning American, I say a pox on you for being so stupid. Where did the brain God gave you go? Are you so consumed with hatred of this Black man living in YOUR White House, that you cannot see logic anymore?

    Like always, when the economy goes into the toilet, the right (Republicans & Tea Party Supporters) start looking for scapegoats. It use to be Blacks & Jews, but today the main groups on the receiving end of bigotry are Mexicans (Legal or illegal, it does not matter) and Muslims. WE have to blame somebody, don't we?.

    September 1, 2010 02:05 pm at 2:05 pm |
  8. Ben

    beth – "Obama won't be a Clinton or a Carter. He'll be an Obama"

    Wrong. He'll be a much worse version of Carter. You can spin this disaster of an admionistration all you want, the result will still be the same, a butt-whipping of Democrats in November.

    September 1, 2010 02:06 pm at 2:06 pm |
  9. Debbie

    I've been voting for over 20 years and not one time has a poller called me. Who are these people they are calling? Older republicans who still have the dail-up phone?

    September 1, 2010 02:06 pm at 2:06 pm |
  10. JT

    For God's Sake, would you please let President Obama, be President Obama. Have you ever heard of style?
    Geesh, so sick of the media wanting the President to be "like them." We're not like you. Get over it, and write an article with more substance.

    September 1, 2010 02:06 pm at 2:06 pm |
  11. Rick McDaniel

    Jimmy Carter Jr..........Europe dubbed him "Jimmy Jr." soon after taking office, actually.

    September 1, 2010 02:07 pm at 2:07 pm |
  12. WeThePeopleOfVirginia

    Worst than that . . . he'll be an Obamanation.

    September 1, 2010 02:09 pm at 2:09 pm |
  13. JJ in NY

    obama isn't even his own president, because he doesn't have the courage to face the country's problems and accept responsibility. obama is like the absent father who has abandoned his "family" .

    September 1, 2010 02:09 pm at 2:09 pm |
  14. Veteran, small business owner, Independent

    Although I supported him the first go around, President Obama will not get my Independent vote for a second term. My reasons are several and include the following:

    1 – Letting the Bush tax cuts expire is a jobs killer, It will increase the taxes on my small business such that I will pay more than Fortune 100 companies like Raytheon, Microsoft, Intelm Cisco Pfizer et al.

    2 – Health insurance has not been informed for small business owners. I pay $16 000 a year for just me and my wife and I cannot deduct this as a corporate business expense as I am a 5% owner. I am not about to hire new people and pay their health insurance.

    3 – I am a Vietnam ear Veteran – Vietnam was a mistake. Staying in Obama's Vietnam – Afghanistan – is a bigger mistake.

    4 – I need a President that can build coalitions on both sides of the aisle to get things done through leadership and compromise. On returning from his vacation the first thing Obama did was rip into the GOP Senate minority, This will NEVER get bi partisan cooperation. Despite all his words to the contrary, Obama has been the mosy divisive and partisan President I have seen in my life.

    5. Obama's spending is putting a choke hold on our future, and the future of our children and granschildren. You cannot spend your way into prosperity - only devastation

    6 The President misrepresented many aspects of his health care reform bill -- I cannot trust what he says any longer

    September 1, 2010 02:10 pm at 2:10 pm |
  15. Ryan

    I don't know if Obama is Carter or a Clinton but one thing is for sure, there are no Walter Cronkites or Edward R. Morrows in the media anymore.

    September 1, 2010 02:11 pm at 2:11 pm |
  16. Ben

    AB Baltimore MD – " Gloria, Obama will get a second term as president and will do more to make the USA "a more perfect union"

    Are you on drugs? The only thing he's done is run all over the globe apologizing for the US and pass a horrible healthcare bill that will raises taxes and costs. Maybe you're proud of that. I'm not.

    September 1, 2010 02:11 pm at 2:11 pm |
  17. Dorothy

    Beth, thank you for writing exactly what I wanted to write.

    September 1, 2010 02:12 pm at 2:12 pm |
  18. Bob in PA

    He already has almost outdone Jimmy Carter and now ranks among one of the worst ten preidents to serve.

    September 1, 2010 02:13 pm at 2:13 pm |
  19. 52 Pick-up

    more Carter than Clinton, that's for sure.

    September 1, 2010 02:13 pm at 2:13 pm |
  20. Dave

    Will a Republican presidential candidate make deals with Iran (or worse) in a cynical plot to discredit Obama? No, the Republicans learned thei lesson. It's better to own media companies so they can do that dirty work instead. Fox Terror Channel is the dirty trick arm of the GOP now. The real question is, will Obama anger his base too much before the next election?

    September 1, 2010 02:15 pm at 2:15 pm |
  21. Steve in Denver

    @Awaiting liberalization: What dream world do you live in? In your world, does organized labor represent more than 10% of the American workforce? You neocons blaming everything on organized labor, or the teachers, or illegal immigrants is simply rediculuous. Unions may have been powerful at one time, but they certainly aren't today. And, if the unions did own Obama and the congress, don't you think Card Check would have been the first order of business?

    As for the question at hand, I'm betting Obama will be seen as both. Strong in domestic policy, having avoided another great depression (some credit to bush with the TARP), passed health care reform, cutting taxes for middle and low income earners, and ending the Iraq war. I'm also betting that he will be moving the middle east peace process forward, as Carter did (that Nobel prize for negotiating peace between Egypt and Israel that is still in effect today, before you morons denigrate that).

    Now, if he would only prosecute the shrub and his cronies for war crimes, he would be the ideal president.

    September 1, 2010 02:16 pm at 2:16 pm |
  22. shoegazer

    Maybe he'll be a "Clarter".

    September 1, 2010 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  23. Ken

    It's hard to tell. He is doing great in all areas except the economy, I know he doesn't have much control over it but majority will vote on the state of the economy. If economy is bad he's a Carter if it has improved he's a Clinton

    September 1, 2010 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  24. Wm Scot

    Taking over such a huge mess and expected to fix all that has been broken for so many years is simple idiotic. Those that have been ranting on him since he was elected and those that do not have the will to see if it will work are not thinking straight. He is a very intelligent man and will see things through as long as the congress quits screwing around.

    September 1, 2010 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  25. Realistic

    I find it interesting how we, the people like to make comparison about our leaders,present and past. Some are trying to sell the myth that Obama is like carter and the worse president ever. Well those who try to sell that myth are your typical republicans who has blinders on. And of course there are those democrats who will compare him to a successful past president, fill in the blank yourself. The truth is, Obama is different than previous presidents, as was Bush. The only comparison possible is that all presidents have the same goal, to make America thrive etc. The path to the goal can be argued to which path is right. Here are some simple basic truths about Obama so far.

    1. He kept his promise of the Iraq withdrawal. We cant make Iraqis a democracy, they have to choose the path for themselves.

    2. He committed to expand the war in Afghan b/c as most Americans understand, Afghan is the real threat. He increased the troops as he said he would. Promise kept.

    3. He promised to take on CC companies and stop them from charging outrageous interest rate etc..Yes, the CC increased their rates before the law took effect, however, eventually when Americans stand up to the CC companies, eventually the rates will drop and will not be able to dramatically increased again. Once we demand and protest or cancel our CCs the CC companies will lower the rates. Yes, Americans sometimes do not plan for the future and want it now, glad our president plans for the future.

    4. Healthcare...promised and accomplished. Healthcare was getting out of control and this will start the long process of lowering costs(future planning). Its not gov't take over and will not bankrupt this nation. What it will do is stop insurance companies from denying coverage, dropping sick people etc. What good is insurance if you cant use it when your sick( like duh people).

    And there is more but those are the basics promises made and kept. We can argue about the path but the goal is great. Coverage for the sick and lower costs, lower CC rates, propping up Afghan and making America safe. These promises made and kept will assure the Obama will be ranked high as far as presidents. No matter if your area republican or other, remove the blinders and will see clear. Will he be the best? Maybe not but at least he will remembered as someone who did what he promised to do. And as far as the economy, where did the recession start? Hopefully after the election, we can all get back to doing what's right for America. Under the republicans, the problems started and due to the republicans obstruction the problem continues.

    September 1, 2010 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
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