September 2nd, 2010
03:07 PM ET
11 years ago

Judge removes ‘birther’ elements from Army doc's court martial

(Updated at 6:30 p.m. ET)

- A judge on Thursday denied a request for President Barack Obama to testify at a court martial for a U.S. Army flight surgeon who refused to deploy to Afghanistan until he saw proof that Obama was born in the United States.

The judge, Army Col. Denise Lind, said any evidence or witnesses related to Obama's citizenship is irrelevant to the charges against Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, who has 17 years of service in the U.S. military.

After failing to deploy with his unit in April, Lakin was charged with missing a movement, disobeying a lawful order and dereliction of duty.

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  1. Jeff S

    They are irrelevant. Even if it turns out that Barack Obama was the love child of Josef Stalin and Lady bin Laden, and he was born in North Korea at Kim John Eew's house, such a trial and impeachment would not be the business of an insubordinative soldier. This guy just wanted to sign up for the military for college funding or for the job itself, but didn't want to go into a war zone.

    September 2, 2010 03:12 pm at 3:12 pm |
  2. Jerry - Florida

    Of course the judge would rule in favor of NObama. After all and in essence, the judge works for him.

    If NObama is as smart as he proclaims himself to be, he would produce all the necessary REAL documentation, once and for all!

    What is this man really hiding???

    Stay tuned!

    September 2, 2010 03:12 pm at 3:12 pm |
  3. Can't We All Just Get Along?

    He doubted a legally elected president, voted in by the people?

    Did he doubt Bush who was an illegally selected president?

    September 2, 2010 03:12 pm at 3:12 pm |
  4. Michele from CO

    These military folks that use this as an excuse are a disgrace to America and racist!!!! If Obama was not black none of this would be an issue!


    September 2, 2010 03:12 pm at 3:12 pm |
  5. Von Bismark

    When will these wingnuts ever come to term with the fact that Obama is President and he is black?

    September 2, 2010 03:13 pm at 3:13 pm |
  6. bob

    The judge is right. It has nothing to do with the court case. Just because you don't like the President and you've signed up for the military, you better show up.

    September 2, 2010 03:14 pm at 3:14 pm |
  7. Geoffrey

    It is the height of insolence for a commissioned officer to question his entire command and all of Congress in disobeying orders. His thoughts or feelings about the Presidents validity are indeed irrelevant. He is insubordinate. If this guy gets off, anybody with a wacky theory about his government will be doing the same. If you don't have faith in government the last thing you should do is join its military.

    September 2, 2010 03:14 pm at 3:14 pm |
  8. LacrosseMom(the real one)

    GOOD! NO SANE judge is going to hear this INSANE lawsuit!

    TO THE BIRTHERS (excuse the yelling):

    DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE...... that George W. Bush, DICK, FBI, CIA, NSA, Congress( both GOP & Dems) and the Supreme Courts .........


    It is these types of Conservatives (Republicans) and people like Beck, Rush, Palin, Coulter, Hannity, Bill-O, Sharon Angle, etc., that make the Republican party look like a group of NUTS!

    America are you paying attention? DO YOU REALLY WANT THESE NUTS TO HAVE POWER IN NOVEMBER?????????????????????
    (again, excuse the yelling)

    September 2, 2010 03:15 pm at 3:15 pm |
  9. Mattski

    Here's someone who will take everything the Government can give and then weasel out of it when it's time to serve - using the tactics of a 14-year-old.

    September 2, 2010 03:16 pm at 3:16 pm |
  10. Laverne

    This is just too much! There are some who are determined to put this man on the cross and crucify him. All I got to say is God don't like ugly!

    September 2, 2010 03:17 pm at 3:17 pm |
  11. Squiggs

    This guy wants to blame being a coward on Obama. He probably would have loved being sent over there by Alabama National Guard Lt .Bush who was on the front lines in Birmingham.

    September 2, 2010 03:18 pm at 3:18 pm |
  12. Karl

    Good. Any military office willing to not to complete their duties based on their hatred for this President should receive the maximum punishment of military law for disobeying a direct order, for slandering the Commander in Chief, for simply being a baby because McCain and the Bear from Wasilla did not win the presidency.

    September 2, 2010 03:19 pm at 3:19 pm |
  13. Joe from CT, not Lieberman

    No matter what, it is called refusal to obey a direct, lawful order. It is called a dishonorable discharge from service, which will result in a denial of ALL Veteran's benefits! If he gets any prison time, it is also likely that the DoD could petition the state issuing board to revoke his license to practice medicine (a DoD requirement since the early 90s), but that will be unlikely. However, as he will have on his record a prison sentence for a felony offense, it is possible that he could have his license to practice revoked automatically by the issuing state!

    September 2, 2010 03:19 pm at 3:19 pm |
  14. Joe from CT, not Lieberman

    Oh, yeah, I almost forgot! John McCain WAS born outside of the United States territories. I guess that would have made him ineligible to run for President, too, huh Birthers?

    September 2, 2010 03:21 pm at 3:21 pm |
  15. People Are Idiots

    So, shall I refuse to pay taxes because the president may not be a U.S. citizen? This guy and anyone else doubting Obama's citizenship are clowns!!

    September 2, 2010 03:21 pm at 3:21 pm |
  16. NVa Native

    Why should this Army officer be forced to work – he's clearly just another radical GOPer afraid of our over quailified and highly effective President.
    All of the Republican members of Congress have been so in fear of our President for over 18 months that they have not worked one day since Obama was elected by a huge majority.
    I guess they've been in such utter and complete terror all they do is sit there with their arms crossed and a their pale wrinlky old pouty face barking "NO". Put them all in the brigg!!

    September 2, 2010 03:21 pm at 3:21 pm |
  17. Tall Ed

    Ok... so this is what I don't get.

    If Obama wasn't born in America, then how did he slip that past the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain.

    If Obama wasn't legal and couldn't run don't you think the Democratic Party wouldn't allow him to run as a Democrat, or if some how he managed to get past them that Hillary Clinton would not have brought it up in the Primary when she was losing.

    Then if Magically they both missed it the the Republican Party would not have gotten him kicked-out when he was winning against McCain.

    I doubt that Democratic Party, the Republican Party, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain, would sit quitely and allow someone to become President Illegally.

    Do the Math if he wasn't an American then there are rich and powerful individuals and groups with the resources to stop him that would have, but they didn't because they couldn't because he is an American.

    September 2, 2010 03:22 pm at 3:22 pm |
  18. Rush Goebbels

    I laugh at the birthbaggers daily,hahaha

    September 2, 2010 03:22 pm at 3:22 pm |
  19. SA in OO

    So much for not getting your 15 minutes of fame. If only the media would take this judges lead and deny air time anyone who is willing to say something outrageous no matter how ill founded and ridiculous they know the comments are.

    Our obsession with the sensational is undermining any rational discussion on issues we are confronting.

    September 2, 2010 03:22 pm at 3:22 pm |
  20. Jimbo (the real one)

    Throw the book at this "poser" judge...!

    September 2, 2010 03:22 pm at 3:22 pm |
  21. Ted

    This army officer shoudl be stripped of rank pay and pension for not obeying a direct order to deploy and thrown in Leavenworth for the rest of his life on hard labor. The guy is a delusional jerk and not worthy of anything.

    September 2, 2010 03:24 pm at 3:24 pm |
  22. Dutch/Bad Newz, VA

    I wish the Birther/Racists will give it up already. Barack Obama is YOUR PRESIDENT!

    September 2, 2010 03:25 pm at 3:25 pm |
  23. Nando

    This fool should be locked up with all the rest of the Crazy's

    September 2, 2010 03:26 pm at 3:26 pm |
  24. Nate, OLY WA

    I hope they throw the book at him. If it was an enlisted Soldier...he'd be under Leavenworth.

    September 2, 2010 03:27 pm at 3:27 pm |
  25. Some republican guy

    Heavens to Betsey!!!! Those narcisstic elitest obamabots are up to they're old tricks again!!!!! How can they say that his birth certificate isn't important???? Its the most important issue of our time!!!!!! How do we know he's not a Mexican Muslin if he won't show us his real birth certificate????? He grew up in Reverend Wright's Muslin church and got his socialistic indoctrination from the terrorists he was palling around with there!!!!! Then the Oprah watching union thugs stuffed the balott boxes to get him elected so he can make us all socialists like Canada!!!!!! Their going to make us listen to Gordon Lightfoot!!!!!!! He's Canadian!!!!! How do we know Gordon Lightfoot isn't a Muslin??? No one has seen his birth certificate either!!!!!! Wise up, real Americans!!!!!! Listen to American music like Snoop Dog and Ween instead of the Canadian socialistic, Oprah watching, Gordon Lightfoot!!!!!!Empeach them all and succeed from the union before its to late!!!!!! Have a nice day!

    September 2, 2010 03:27 pm at 3:27 pm |
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