First presidential debate a sign that the GOP field is far from set
May 5th, 2011
03:09 PM ET
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First presidential debate a sign that the GOP field is far from set

Greenville, South Carolina (CNN) - The headlines from most presidential debates usually center on who said what or who came under attack. But the headline from the first Republican presidential debate of the 2012 election cycle may well end up being who wasn't there.

Only five probable GOP White House candidates will be on stage at Thursday night's debate being put on by Fox News and the South Carolina Republican Party, another sign of the slow start, compared to the last two cycles, to the start of this race for the White House.

The debate will most likely also be overshadowed by continued media coverage of the killing of Osama bin Laden, including a visit just hours before the debate by President Barack Obama to Ground Zero in New York City.

The five men on the stage in Greenville: Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, former Godfathers Pizza CEO and radio talk show host Herman Cain and former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson.

A more impressive list may be who's not attending. Among the probable presidential candidates not coming to Greenville are former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, former U.S. Ambassador to China and former Utah Gov. John Huntsman, and Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota won't be there either, but they haven't decided yet on whether they'll run for their party's presidential nomination. It's the same story for former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who appears near or at the top of most of the early 2012 GOP horserace polls, but who hasn't decided yet on whether he'll make another bid for the White House.

Add Donald Trump to the list. The billionaire businessman, real estate mogul and reality TV star says he'll decide by June if he's going to launch a presidential campaign. And Sarah Palin won't be there either. The former Alaska governor and the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee has not taken any serious steps towards running for the White House, but she hasn't ruled out a run.

Other than Paul, who cracks double digits in some of the national horserace polls, the rest of the contenders at the debate are all in the single digits. And other than Pawlenty, and to a lesser degree Santorum, none of have put together a strong team of advisers and foot soldiers in the early primary states.

Pawlenty, in an op-ed in the Daily Caller Thursday, says the reason some candidates are skipping the event is because "they believe it's 'too soon' to begin the presidential campaign against Barack Obama. I only hope that it's not too late."

He may be right, or he may be off by a few weeks or months.

The reason there will only be five candidates, and none with a ton of star power, on the stage: The field is still not set. Only Johnson has formally declared himself a candidate for president. Until Daniels, Huntsman, Huckabee and Trump decide their intentions, the field won't be defined.

The local newspaper agrees.

"With South Carolina's GOP presidential primary less than 10 months away, it's time for state residents inclined to vote on that ticket to start deciding on a candidate to support. Unfortunately tonight's debate won't help many of them firm up their choice," says an editorial in the Greenville News.

Why the slow start?

Many feel the last two cycles started too early. The lack of a true GOP front runner in the polls this time around also negates the need for others to jump in before it's too late. And the Republican party's big victories in last year's midterm elections put the spotlight on the GOP congressional leaders, rather than the race for the White House. Add to that the uncertainty of how the new player in the GOP field, the tea party movement, will affect the campaign.

Four years ago, on May 3, 2007, ten GOP candidates, including all the big names, appeared on the stage at a presidential debate at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, California. A week earlier in South Carolina, eight Democratic candidates, including then Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, took part in the first Democratic White House debate.

The first presidential debate of an election cycle usually marks the real beginning of the campaign. This time around it looks like we may have to wait a little bit longer.

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soundoff (13 Responses)
  1. Rudy NYC

    Ever watch gymnastics at the Olympics? During the qualifying rounds of each apparatus, each gymnast must go through the same exercise routine, which is known as a "compulsory."

    What I expect to come out of this debate will be all of the "compulsory" talking points to excite the far right. With the exception of Rep. Paul, if any of them can come up with anything original would be surprising. I like Ronny Pops. He has many good ideas. but his ideas for the mplementation of them still needs some work.

    May 5, 2011 03:19 pm at 3:19 pm |
  2. Irma in North Carolina

    How can this be a debate, if fox news is on it, They should not be allowed to do any. All they will do is make all of them look gracious.

    May 5, 2011 03:28 pm at 3:28 pm |
  3. vic , nashville ,tn

    I never seen GOP in this situation huge empty volume when its comes to leaders in GOP now
    They didn’t learn from 2008 they took a short cut on 2010 look where they are now

    First debate usually more candidates than rest of the debates

    May 5, 2011 03:31 pm at 3:31 pm |
  4. they call me "tater salad"

    Talk about a " ship of fools ".

    May 5, 2011 03:31 pm at 3:31 pm |
  5. NVa Native

    It's a sign of the freak show to come will be the same as it ever was.
    Hate, bigotry, and ignorance will be the rant of that day as with every day for the GOPers.

    May 5, 2011 03:32 pm at 3:32 pm |
  6. DIANA

    I'm going to be glued to the TV with a big bowl of popcorn. This ought to be VERY entertaining. Please, ask them what they would have done to get Bin Laden, whether or not they want to cut granny's benefits, ect.? I know they won't ask these type of questions but it'll be entertaining either way.

    OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!

    May 5, 2011 03:41 pm at 3:41 pm |
  7. The Day of Financial Reckoning is HERE - The Great Democrat Welfare Society Ends

    I don't know why the Democrats haven't announced any debates? Surely with Obama's miserable poll numbers and numerous failures they can't expect good news next November. Have you seen the latest jump in unemployment claims? This is the start of the Obama Depression. Where the heck is Hillary??? She'd beat Obama this time.

    May 5, 2011 03:46 pm at 3:46 pm |
  8. Infowarrior

    Paul is the only man that will be up there today with anything of substance to say. Hell, I doubt that any of the corporate puppets up there with him will be able to understand a thing that comes out of the good doctor's mouth. Let's just hope the media doesn't try to shut him up like they did last time.

    May 5, 2011 03:48 pm at 3:48 pm |
  9. Rudy NYC

    Here's what I don't understand. Why are the "big fish" sitting back when the feeding frenzy is just beginning? If you able to stand on your merits, then nothing can touch you. (Insert image of Obama during '08 campaign dusting off his shoulder.) Like that!

    May 5, 2011 03:51 pm at 3:51 pm |
  10. Claudia, Houston, Tx

    Republicans were on a 2 week vacation when President Obama captured and killed OBL, so it makes no difference they'll be absent at their own debates. LOL

    May 5, 2011 03:52 pm at 3:52 pm |
  11. Michelle

    This should be interesting. Where are the "front runners"? Why televise the pre show acts?

    May 5, 2011 03:55 pm at 3:55 pm |
  12. Anonymous

    What Republican Presidential Debate? there are only two candidates- Romney who announced officially and Trump who announced but said it was not official.
    Politic and media coverage of it have gotten comical.

    May 5, 2011 04:19 pm at 4:19 pm |
  13. Michael

    Wow, are you serious? Romney and Trump have not announced anything. Only the candidates participating in the debate have formed Presidential Exploratory Committees.

    Ron Paul is the man to watch tonight. His current 24 hour Moneybomb has already raised over $580,000 and rising fast.
    Veterans for Ron Paul 2012!

    May 5, 2011 04:35 pm at 4:35 pm |