Boehner: 'We don't have votes yet,' GOP lobbying continues
July 28th, 2011
01:47 PM ET
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Boehner: 'We don't have votes yet,' GOP lobbying continues

Washington (CNN) - House Speaker John Boehner continued to lobby fellow Republicans to back his debt bill Thursday, telling members at a closed-door meeting, "We don't have the votes yet," according to a Republican in the room. But he added, "Today is the day we're going to get it passed."

As part of that lobbying effort, House GOP leaders agreed to add a last minute sweetener for conservatives who have been pushing for a balanced budget amendment to ensure future spending cuts actually happen.

House Republicans plan to have a pair of votes Friday on two versions of a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution. One version, if adopted by the states, would require that the government maintain a balanced budget. The other version, one that conservatives have long been pushing, would also require a supermajority vote in both chambers to approve any tax increases.

Indiana Republican Mike Pence said while he prefers the stricter version, he recognizes it's unlikely to get enough votes to pass both the House and the Senate, so he pressed for adding a vote on the other version. An amendment to the Constitution needs a two-thirds majority in both chambers to pass.

When leaders agreed to the second vote, Pence told reporters, "That inked the deal for me." He flipped from undecided to a yes.

The vote is expected Thursday evening on Boehner's plan. One House GOP aide sounded confident their bill would pass and put the onus on Senate Democrats.

"By the end of the day, the House will have passed two debt limit increases and sent them over to the Senate." the aide told CNN, adding, "The House will have done its job, and Harry Reid and the President will now have three choices on how they wish to move forward – Cut, Cap and Balance, the Boehner compromise, or to go past the August 2nd deadline and risk default and the economic ramifications that come with it."

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soundoff (47 Responses)
  1. sammieb51

    So JB's plan that the CBO says won't reduce the deficit or create jobs (in fact jobs will be lost .... ), that's DOA in the Senate, he's wasting time on. And Joe Walsh, that FAMOUS GOPbag that is being sued for $120,000 (ONE HUNDRED TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS) IN BACK CHILD SUPPORT, is bashing McCain for calling him and his ilk out for the 'bags childish platform of "no compromise" - he needs to move to a dictatorship where the iron fist rules, this is a Democracy.

    July 28, 2011 01:52 pm at 1:52 pm |
  2. TBSkins

    "The House will have done its job, and Harry Reid and the President will now have three choices on how they wish to move forward – Cut, Cap and Balance, the Boehner compromise, or to go past the August 2nd deadline and risk default and the economic ramifications that come with it."

    Again, no compromise.

    July 28, 2011 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  3. Lost in Texas FOREVER

    it's quite clear to me that the Republicans, Tea Party and all, have NO idea what to do to make the economy why not help make it WORSE!! That is exactly what this stupid debt ceiling debacle is about. As long as this goes on NOTHING is being done about the economy, no job creation, no job bills. Thus of course the job numbers will be in the tank for July and laying off the FAA shoots the unemployment rate up. Then of course they can blame it all on Obama, run more stupid ads about blank checks.

    July 28, 2011 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  4. Larry L

    The Republicans are playing politics with my life savings – as the stock market tanks. I have now, for the first time in my life, become a hard-core Democrat. I can't support a group of cowards who lack the guts to face the radical Tea Party extremists.

    July 28, 2011 01:55 pm at 1:55 pm |
  5. Brady

    This is beyond irresponsible politics, playing with the national debt to advance an agenda. It's treasonous!!! Due to folks like these America is now between a tremendous rock and a hard place. All due to the fact that "You can't fix stupid" people. Not just the politicians but the folks who elected them. Unfortunately we (the US) are getting what we deserve.

    July 28, 2011 01:55 pm at 1:55 pm |
  6. Rudy NYC

    The Boehner "Compromise"?

    Uh, I don't think you are allowed to publicly call it a compromise because you worked it out your conservative differences amongst yourselves. Compromise is supposed to mean bipartisanship, not one-up-man-ship. But hey, they're Republicans. Standard rules and definitions are for other people. They write the rules.

    The facts are the following. CC&B has already been voted down. The Senate has already promised to vote down the version that your House is about to vote down. The House vote this evening will be meaningless, even if Republicans do pass it.

    July 28, 2011 01:56 pm at 1:56 pm |
  7. Cosmo

    "The House will have done its job, and Harry Reid and the President will now have three choices on how they wish to move forward – Cut, Cap and Balance, the Boehner compromise, or to go past the August 2nd deadline and risk default and the economic ramifications that come with it."

    Sorry, GOP, we are not buying it. The blame for any default will fall squarely on the shoulders of your party and you will find out in November 2012 what the AMerican voter thinks of your cynical and dispicable way of doing business.

    July 28, 2011 02:03 pm at 2:03 pm |
  8. gt

    obama will be remember more for the out come of this debt crisis than getting osama bidladen... get a deal done ...

    July 28, 2011 02:03 pm at 2:03 pm |
  9. Cody

    If these pass the president will have 3 choices – get screwed hard, get screwed hard, or get screwed harder. Good job providing the choices congress.

    July 28, 2011 02:04 pm at 2:04 pm |
  10. Totally Exasperated!!

    Boehner be a man and own up to the fact you will never have the votes to pass your plan and shelve this dog & pony show for the Tea Party!! Times a-wastin and you have calls to Obama & Ried to make so you can start on the compromise bill! NEXT TUESDAY BOEHNER, 4 DAYS BONE HEAD, that's all the time you have left use it wisely!!!!!

    July 28, 2011 02:04 pm at 2:04 pm |
  11. Rudy NYC

    Please refer to the US Constitution, Article II, Section 3.

    All of this posturing back and forth is just to demonstrate that there a exists a Case of "Disagreement" between the chambers. In which case, I see the President convening a joint Session of Congress where he will scold them like little kids.

    The President will then proceed to adjourn the Congress with a dismissive, "I got this." Then he will turn into Mrs. Bachmanns dictator and write an executive order to the Sec'y of the Treasury authorizing him to borrow more money to pay our debts.

    Paying our debts. Not spending more money than what has been budgeted, but paying the debts for the money that the Republican House has already budgeted. In other words, the Republicans are trying to find a way around the FY2011 budget already signed into a law (enact more cuts this year) by the President. It is called reneging. It is called breaking agreements. It is also unlawful to try to circumvent the budget legislation signed by the President, which you already voted on. That's how Democracy works, not what the Republicans are trying to do.

    July 28, 2011 02:07 pm at 2:07 pm |
  12. sonny chapman

    No political posturing here. Just love of country.

    July 28, 2011 02:08 pm at 2:08 pm |
  13. Tom

    What are these nuts smoking?

    July 28, 2011 02:08 pm at 2:08 pm |
  14. mary j

    Boehner!! Whats wrong with you?! other than probably being paided off or is this more of a race thing with you!!your acting more of a bigit than a servant of this country.well hate to burst you ego bubble but, in gods eye's we are all the same so quit making deals with the devil deflate your petty ego and do your job for a change.
    If there were ever a real time to say there is a mistake in goverment then electing a hack like you woud be it. if there needs to be a audit to see where all the goverment money is going. lets start with your accounts see how your profits and losses add up. if anything come out of this you should be ashame and disgrace with your actions. do you even have a level of humility to understand ahamed or is your ego to big to see over.
    ever heard of a flat taxe or is that to much for your rich to's simple! quit being an idiot with the ego admit you are wrong or just get use to the fact that with elections to come you won't get your relection bid.. good luck with the unemployment!!! oh that ritght thats to you and your group thats gone to.
    sincerely granny america.

    July 28, 2011 02:11 pm at 2:11 pm |
  15. Randy, San Francisco

    The Republican Party is paying the price for courting Tea Party wingnuts. McCain was right to call them tea party hobbits. These newbie wannabie politicians have the audacity to call a genuine war hero and patriot with many years of service in the US Senate a clueless individual. The only ones clueless are the Tea Party politicians who are willing to drag this country over the cliff for their ideology. Speaker Boehner should have kept these pollitical midgets in line from the very beginning. Calling them hobbits is an insult to a lovable, friendly, and sensible literary character.

    July 28, 2011 02:11 pm at 2:11 pm |
  16. The Real Tom Paine

    No, the House has not done its job. Its rammed a meaningless piece of legislation thru the chamber designed to give them political cover, rather than do the right thing and raise the debt ceiling so we don't default. This won't solve anything, and anyone who says its a good bill or its a good start is delusional. When we default, the GOP will be held responsible. Their lack of courage would be laughable, if the situation were not so serious. Btw, Mike Pence just kissed his chance of being Governor good-bye.

    July 28, 2011 02:12 pm at 2:12 pm |
  17. gandoman

    I am a Democrat ..... however ..... if the republican NAZI party will simply raise taxes on the wealthy, I would support some of their ideas. I repeat ..... RAISE TAXES ON THE WEALTHY!
    The Tea Party has it quite wrong for a reason ..... The reason is because ..........
    The Tea Party is really the ..... TEA POTTY ..... & I am not talking about the BOSTON ACCENT.
    The TEA POTTY is where all good ideas get washed down the toilet, leaving only a few skid marks to be turned into TEA POTTY rhetoric.
    The TEA POTTY sect wishes to relive a certain incident which occurred in Boston Harbor on Dec.16,1773.
    They somehow equate the American Colony's protest against a 'tax on tea' with the current political situation.
    In other words, they wish to overthrow the current Government & set up a White Supremacist Nation where Liberals, Gays, Blacks, Jews, darker skinned Latinos, Muslims, Buddhists & all NON-Christians will have some semblance of democracy until they are slowly & inevitably exterminated.
    Except of course for those UNEQUALS who are unusually well trained & educated & can become useful in the new America.
    Professional Athletes for example!
    The TEA POTTY movement (think bowel) needs to be flushed down the proverbial sewer where it sprang up from.
    Like a new infectious disease which gathers strength quickly & mutates, the TEA POTTIERS will eventually be destroyed by a combination of disinfectants such as the MAJORITY of the American People will supply.

    July 28, 2011 02:12 pm at 2:12 pm |
  18. Jeff Brown in Jersey

    Poor, poor Bonehead... You are so over your head in this position!

    July 28, 2011 02:13 pm at 2:13 pm |
  19. Sniffit

    Jeffrey Miron's article is the most disingenuous garbage I've seen on CNN in a long time. I almost stopped reading at his accusation that Dems "want to address the deficit with higher taxes on "the rich," not expenditure cuts," but it was just too interesting to watch a professed libertarian latch desperately onto the false equivalency narrative and then go on to explain that $2000 more in Medicare deductibles per year is "affordable for most families" when middle-class salaries haven't changed for 30+ years, average household debt has skyrocketed and we have a massive unemployment problem because the wealthy and corporations are trying to finally get the middle-class monkey off their backs so they can have the plutocratic banana republic they've always wanted. How many times do Obama, Reid, Pelosi and the rest of them have to say "balanced" and actually propose something that included both cuts and revenue increases for it to sink in that they weren't relying solely on "tax increases"...or is the MSM, including CNN, just hellbent on purposefully misinforming the public. Miron's nonsense is a perfect example of what is wrong with the "news" media in this country. It was self-serving ideological slop, particualrly his blad-faced uncritical acceptance of the idea that Medicare is the problem, not the health care, pharmaceutical and insurance industries' symbiotic orgy designed to fleece the public and those in desperate need. But hey, I'll give you an A+ on that one sure know how to pick your shills.

    July 28, 2011 02:13 pm at 2:13 pm |
  20. Emmy Skaddittle

    i am so tired of super majority bs, it doesn't work in the senate it wont work in the house. If the majority of the american people want something, that should be enough.

    July 28, 2011 02:13 pm at 2:13 pm |
  21. Bets

    Please Mr.Obama and senate, Veto!!!! These nuts are as "crazy as it gets!!!! VETO.

    July 28, 2011 02:15 pm at 2:15 pm |
  22. JJ

    And you won't get the votes, so prepare to cry again. 🙂

    July 28, 2011 02:15 pm at 2:15 pm |
  23. Marry no plan yet?? Surprise?????
    Yes, the spending does have to be looked at and the waste has to stop (who do you think profits from the waste? Yes, you are right…) and loopholes have be eliminated, the tax breaks for the rich have to be voted down and new revenue has to be created by taxing the BIG CORPORATIONS.

    When a check bounces, it is not only overdrawn but also under deposited!

    Worldwide finance markets and the economies that had been close to the brink by the GOP under G.W.B. are just started to recover and now the GOP/TP are doing it again! Shame on them! Disgusting! And all that just to “make a President fail!" This will not be forgotten and surely not forgiven! Just wait for 2012.
    In the meantime, you thought unemployment is bad? Just wait a little while. If the GOP/TP have their way, the only ones working are the ones in the soup kitchen! That are new jobs the NUTS will create. And their know it and they are happy!

    July 28, 2011 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  24. SecedingfromTexas

    That's right guys and gals, keep mucking it up. "....adding a last minute sweetener" still won't make it lemonade.
    You do make me sick and I am ashamed of you. You call yourselves Americans, I call you traitors. You either
    pledge your allegiance to the Flag, or you pledge your allegiance to Norquist/Koch. You cannot have it both
    ways, and we now know the path you have chosen.

    July 28, 2011 02:20 pm at 2:20 pm |
  25. Brian Dodge

    I wonder how the wealthiest 10 percent, who own 90% of investments, feel about the 3% "tax" on their assets from the decline in the stock market. Especially since this Tea Party "tax" doesn't pave roads, train new workers, pay soldiers, or do any of the other economically useful things that government pays for.

    July 28, 2011 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
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