House vote could be squeaker
Washington (CNN) - A Democratic official involved in the effort to secure the votes in the House and Senate for the debt deal says there is more concern about the vote tally in the House than the Senate, where it looks like it will get the 60 votes needed without much drama.
In the House, Democrats who favor the deal are concerned about a very close vote – maybe a squeaker.
Vice President Joe Biden will meet with the House Democratic caucus at noon to answer questions, soothe concerns, and help shore up reluctant Democrats.
Even though Biden is coming over to meet with Democrats and has planned to come out to the media stakeout afterwards, it's unclear from Democratic aides at this point how many of the Democratic leaders, including Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, will stand with Biden and say they will support the bill.
Meantime, Boehner just met with House GOP whip team. Rep Tom Cole of Oklahoma, a member of the team, predicted after the meeting a "strong vote" from Republicans.
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When the extremes of both parties are angry, you know you're doing the right thing!
Wouldn't that be precious if the House Democrats decided not support this bill? As if they think the alternative would be any friendlier to their liberal ideas.
Again, both houses choose the security of wasting our money instead of making tough decisions. Already today I saw the gutless Dick Durbin posturing himself with a comment that it wasn't as much as they wanted in cuts, why they wanted more, they wanted 4 Trillion in cuts. What world do they live in ? Is Washington D.C. an alternate dimension or something ?
Love it – the weeper will have to beg Pelosi for HELP.
TEA PARTIERS who added to the 2012 Budget:
Sean Duffy, WI, $700M for Stillwater Bridge; an alternative would cost half that amount.
Duncan Hunters, CA, $5M for Trex Enterprises (asked for $3M in 2010)
Steven Palazzo, Mississippi, $150M for ship building industry;
FYI: Most of Trex Industry employees donate heavily to Duncan Hunter; Sean Duffy whines about "struggling" on
his $174,000 annual salary from Congress.
I know what I call these "cut spending" tea party hypocrits, what would you call them?????????????
The far left wing of the Democrat Party, aka "progressives", might just hold the country hostage by insisting this pathetic start at getting the country's books in order is "draconian". This is what happens to people so addicted to taking money to give to others who do nothing for it. Your attacking their very existence if they can't do this without restriction.
"Love it – the weeper will have to beg Pelosi for HELP."
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Wrong. It's Obama that's begging Pelosi for help.
Vice President Joe Biden will meet with the House Democratic caucus at noon to answer questions, soothe concerns, and help shore up reluctant Democrats.
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Where's Obama???? Why does he keep sending Crazy Joe out to do his bidding? Did he have late tee time or maybe a campaign fund raiser???
Look at the stock market, oh this deal just saved us, yea right, more political bull from a bunch of clowns.
I wouldn't beg that effete snob Pelosi for anything. Hopefully this pathetic exvuse for a bill does not make it past the House.
@ AEK – "When the extremes of both parties are angry, you know you're doing the right thing!"
Your point is well made. There are aspects of this agreement that I absolutely hate, but those who actually have the responsibility to govern must find common ground and get things done.
@Bob in Pa – It's easy to criticize from the cheap seats when you don't have responsibility for anything. Worse yet, the people who think like you do, who are in Congress and do have responsibility, are acting like a bunch of spoiled children and have made the job of the actual adults much more difficult.
Stand firm Nancy. This is not only an awful deal (the unemployed get shafted royally) its the wrong time to do any deal. You can't fix the economy by strangling it before it recovers from the worst downturn since the Great Depression, you can only add to its woes.
I don't know who sounds stupider. The freshmen in Congress or the people commenting on this site. Get your facts straight, people, or you'll just sound as idiotic as the 24 hour news ignorati.
@ Day of reckoning
Do you have any idea what portion of the federal budget is welfare? It's a tiny fraction. I hope you are not on SS or Medicare and that you, out of principle, refuse it when you get there.
"The far left wing of the Democrat Party, aka "progressives", might just hold the country hostage by insisting this pathetic start at getting the country's books in order is "draconian". This is what happens to people so addicted to taking money to give to others who do nothing for it. Your attacking their very existence if they can't do this without restriction."
Yawn. That kind of crap sounds incredibly trite and hypocritical coming from someone who supported Boehner's 4 days of delaying a vote on a House bill solely because he wanted to pass something with ONLY GOP votes rather than seeking compromise to get Dem votes, and, when he couldn't get enough GOP votes to try to jam something useless and symbolic through the House, he then refused to compromise and made his proposal even more of a right wing extremist ideologue unicorn. Boehner and the GOP fiddled while Rome burned and you tapdanced to it in clown shoes like Teatrolly McFlatley, so you can keep your whining about the Dems supposely "holding the country hostage" to yourself. The deal has been proposed and the Dems in the House would be well within their rights to demand a few tweaks in order to get them on board...and talknig point balther that they are "holding the country hostage" or somehow being unreasonable, particuarly from people who supported the Teatroll caucus' completely ridiculous, purely ideological demands and partisan symbolic wang waving, is disingenuous garbage. And if you don't like it, we can just pass a clean bill, expire the Bush tax cuts, skip making "docs fixes" and then watch the deficit pretty much disappear over time without having this insane debate about how much, against all expert economists' advice, we should cut from gov't spending in the middle of a recession.
You House of representatives better not pass this Obama budget. Not one thing in it is true. There is a clause to raise the taxes and no guaranteet that a blanced budget will ever be added to the Constitution. THESE ARE A MUST IF YOU THE HOUSE VOTES FOR THIS DANGED THING.
Mr. Biden is a dead man in the Democratic Party, as is Mr. Obama. As they're running as a team, they will get the African-American vote, but if this deal goes through, Obama could become the first major party candidate to lose ALL 50 states, and he'll deserve to. And any member of the House who stands with him deserves to go down to defeat as well. The sad fact is, Mr. Obama is now in the position, vis-a-vis the Democrats, that Herbert Henry Asquith was as the British prime minister in 1916, vis-a-vis the Liberal Party - he's losing the base of his party, and will soon lose his party, and quite possibly destroy it in the process.
"there is more concern about the vote tally in the House than the Senate, where it looks like it will get the 60 votes needed"
Incorrect. It needs 51 votes to pass. To overcome a possible filibuster, it would need 60.
This is basic stuff, CNN. Do better.
The Tea Party radicals are like all terrorists, full of ideology and short on knowledge. They have harmed America more than the 9/11 attack. Nothing good ever comes from bigotry and hatred.
I personally hope this bill goes down in defeat. Overall spending (despite this bill) will continue to increase. This is the largest debt limited increase in our nation's history! All we are doing here is punting this issue past the next Presidential election with some smoke and mirrors. This fixes absolutely nothing.
Is the winner the Tea Party? No. Republican party? No. Obama? YES