Gov. Haley's Q to Bachmann as 'undecided voter'
August 25th, 2011
11:28 PM ET
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Gov. Haley's Q to Bachmann as 'undecided voter'

Charleston, South Carolina (CNN) – The second question at a Charleston town hall with GOP presidential candidate Michele Bachmann came from "another undecided voter," who happened to be the state's governor.

Gov. Nikki Haley walked on stage to James Brown's "I feel good," then asked the Minnesota congresswoman to address an issue that has become a hot topic for Republican candidates to rally around when they campaign through the early primary state.

Haley threw her softball to Bachmann.

"Our president decided to allow the NLRB, which he appoints members to, to try and stop what Boeing is doing in South Carolina. It's the most un-American thing I have ever seen," Haley said. "If you were president, knowing that he's saying that he can't do anything because it's an independent agency. If you were president how would you handle the situation?"

The National Labor Relations Board filed a complaint in April when Boeing decided it wanted to move production from its union-represented plant in Washington to a new plant in South Carolina, a right-to-work state where workers have a choice in joining a union.

The debate has pitted Democrats and Republicans against each other in a fiery debate over jobs. Boeing's critics claim the company is punishing workers for going on strike in Washington. Supporters say Boeing will be bringing 1,000 new jobs to South Carolina.

Bachmann repeated her position, that she would only appoint pro-growth jobs appointees to the labor board.

She also put the board on notice.

"If the NLRB would also be continuing their current stance, they may not last very long. Once they see what I do to the EPA they may shape up," Bachmann said, referring to the Environmental Protection Agency, which she said she would "lock the doors and shut off all the lights" if she became president.

Bachmann took the opportunity to compliment Haley's "pro-growth agenda" and preserving South Carolina as a right-to-work state.

"We need to make sure states like South Carolina are rewarded and not punished," she said.

The governor's participation in a town hall series with Bachmann, organized by Freshman Rep. Tim Scott, came up because she happened to be in town for another event.

"The governor was already in Charleston tonight, and Congressman Scott asked her to stop by. She was thrilled to do so," Haley spokesperson Rob Godfrey said.

Haley has not been shy about getting face time with presidential candidates passing through her state. The first-term governor has said she intends to endorse a candidate before the state's primary, which has a 20-year record of selecting the eventual presidential nominee.

Filed under: 2012 • Boeing • Jobs • Michele Bachmann • South Carolina
soundoff (216 Responses)
  1. Eli

    God forbid people should have the right to choose to join a union as a condition of employment.

    Which party is really "pro-choice"?

    August 26, 2011 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm |
  2. FactCheck

    Yes, almost all of the republican candidates have more experience than Obama when he was elected. Not only that, most have actual private sector experience (the guys that pay the government bills).

    Oh you mean like that Dubya guy? He had plenty of private sector experience (partially owned the Texas Rangers). How'd that work out for ya'?

    August 26, 2011 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm |
  3. Slightly Left of Center

    @DJ "The only way the national debt gets raised is if we spend more money than we take in." Remember there are 2 parts to that equation, spending AND income.

    Think of it like a family's budget. For everything you spend money on, you need to have the income to pay for it, otherwise it goes on the credit card and increases your debt.

    In GW Bush's case, he decided to start the Iraq war, but he also cut the taxes that could have helped pay for it. Since the war was unfunded, it helped to raise the national debt. The tax cuts reduced the ability to pay for what was already being spent, and therefore increased the national debt.

    If the loss of income from tax cuts could not be replaced by some kind of increased revenues, closing loopholes, etc., then they "weren't paid for".

    August 26, 2011 12:48 pm at 12:48 pm |
  4. Aaron

    Did Haley ever think of maybe giving SC workers some rights? It's the Old South here without the white/colored signs. She should take care of SC's inadequacies before taking on the federal government. She's got a state insurance department that does regulate health insurers on huge rate increases and several became insolvent due to lack of regulation. She and Bachmann hopefully will get a good dose of carcinogenic air/water since they obviously don't believe in clean air or water for their constituents.

    August 26, 2011 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
  5. Polemos

    Great photo selection, CNN. Keep playin' it neutral.

    And with that, I'm going back to increasing C-SPAN's ratings.

    August 26, 2011 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
  6. Michael in Houston

    Palin, Perry, and Bachmann will soon learn just how big the United States of America is when all 3 are crushed and defeated by the majority or Americans. A hell of alot of money is going to be wasted giving these 3 idiots the attention they so desprately seek.

    August 26, 2011 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm |
  7. dan

    Shut the door on the EPA. Slam the door shut and throw away the key. The EPA is part of the new world order that wants the UN telling the United States what it can and can not do with its land. Agenda 21 stuff. And even if that's not true the bs this groups pushing about climate change is a joke and only fools fall for it. Reminds me of Kennedy going around telling kids that they will have to wear gas masks in 20 years because of polution.

    August 26, 2011 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm |
  8. ACEsh

    "Once they see what I do to the EPA they may shape up"
    I hope she chokes on the manure runoff from a hog lot and dies.

    August 26, 2011 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm |
  9. Informed Right Republican

    In delivering the softball Nikki represented the airy weight of the question. "Here michelle," purred Nikki Haley, "here is a Republican party plank posed as a question." "Would you stop the president from stopping corporations that continue destroying unions? asked the starry eyed governatrix. "Of course Nikki" replied michelle, "you should know that destroying unions and the middle-class are party planks." coughed an excited looking michelle. Oh how the masses swooned ~ women fainted ~ men sweat profusely ~ some became hyper verbal. "Oh michelle," cooed one old tea party gent, "put more make-up on ~ it makes you look so nice," as he fainted

    August 26, 2011 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm |
  10. AZ DEM

    Bachmann...serisouly you couldn't make this stuff up I swear! HA..why is it that conservatives rally so hard against the it because they still aren't over that whole Global warming thing? Do they believe all of our model citizens in the largest corporations will give two craps about where they put their waste when they are done with it? This is why the GOP is going to the dogs 30 years from now people will see these people on the wrong side of history and even then they probably will still be sticking to their guns while its snowing in May.

    August 26, 2011 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm |
  11. Ryan Tynan

    The end of the article says that the South Carolina Primary has a 20 year record of picking the eventual Presidential Candidate, but didnt John Edwards win South Carolina in 2004?

    August 26, 2011 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm |
  12. Peggy Munro

    Could all the GOP candidates please get together and hold a massive prayer meeting to ask God to spare America from hurricanes? This would be very helpful.

    August 26, 2011 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm |
  13. Dave Harris

    This sounds like a set-up, complete with accusations of the enemy being "Un-American". Trying to prevent union-busting by employers may not always be the best strategy, but it's not treasonous or "Un-American", it is a well-established function of government (albeit, one the Republicans would like to eliminate). But to Republicans any sort of disagreement with them is an act of treason, and their enemies are the embodiment of evil. Is it any wonder that we are unlikely to survive much longer as a nation, with so many of these hate-mongering people pushing this nonsense?

    August 26, 2011 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
  14. Steve

    The refrains of the song "stroke" keep popping into my head...

    Stroke me, stroke about patting each other on the back. What a joke.

    August 26, 2011 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
  15. REG in AZ

    Talk about irresponsibility, Bachmann not only advocates irresponsible actions but literally brags about intending to take those actions. That is really scary if it actually makes points with voters.

    August 26, 2011 01:01 pm at 1:01 pm |
  16. Mike in Wylie

    Some agencies exist due to Social Doctrines with a devotion like that of a religion. Secular Religion or any other religion should never be established as our State Religion.

    August 26, 2011 01:03 pm at 1:03 pm |
  17. Katie

    South Caroline welcomes jobs from Boeing. Washington state loses jobs from Boeing. This is the same thing as when companies move overseas. They say you're not losing your job unless you choose to move with them, at your own cost, and accept a pay cut for doing the same job. So too bad Washington, you're not losing your jobs unless you move to South Carolina with the company and take whatever paycut Boeing chooses and then guess what? South Carolinians don't have jobs. Not job creation.

    Wouldn't it be nice if every politician actually answered the questions posed to them? I don't like Romney much, but when someone recently asked him about health care, he explained in detail and without shying away, why he instituted reforms in MA but doesn't think the reforms Obama put in place are a good idea. I don't agree with him, but I admire the fact that he fully and thoroughly explained his position when asked. Bachmann and the others could learn a lot from that.

    August 26, 2011 01:04 pm at 1:04 pm |
  18. Dan V

    It's come to this? having loaded questions from your own camp instead of taking on all comers and taking a stand on your positions no matter who is asking the question. The TP types cannot stand up to legitimate scrutiny so they don't talk to the mainstream media or even their own constituents . How weak and un-American.

    August 26, 2011 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  19. Mike Stevens

    Gov Haley's endorsement is South Carolina is not something to brag about or be proud. Her approval rating in the state is in the toilet. Most voters in South Carolina are just hoping she does not screw up anymore than she already has in the next 3 years. Gov Haley is more of a "Good Old Boy" than most of the Good Old Boys themselves. She says one thing, especially when national media is around for the sound bite, and does another. Ask her about funding for South Carolina ETV. Gov Haley called for the elimination of tax payer funding then went back to the Good Old Boys to hide the funding inside of other state agency budgets. Gov Haley is a good used car salesman. You know she is lying the moment her mouth starts to open.

    August 26, 2011 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  20. VAL

    I live in Seattle and the only reason why Boeing wants to move to NORTH CAROLINA is because they have a lower wages compare to Seattle. Seattle has a higher minimun wage than most cities in the nation. Of course Boeing don't want to admit it but a lot of people will agree with me. Some of my friends and family works for Boeing. However, I do believe that WA STATE BOEING WORKERS are best qualified to build airplanes because they've been doing it for generations.

    August 26, 2011 01:11 pm at 1:11 pm |
  21. JD929

    Funny that Republicans are trying to shut down the EPA, which is an agency started by: a Republican.

    August 26, 2011 01:15 pm at 1:15 pm |
  22. Lomunchi

    Please people, coming from a conservative Minnesotan. Please don't vote for Bachman. I think she actually believes what she's saying!

    August 26, 2011 01:16 pm at 1:16 pm |
  23. JayDeeT

    Hey - why don't these political BIGOTS just act normal – goose-step around their podiums, give straight-arm salutes, and threaten the "Liberals" with lynchings and concentration camps? The last time we saw the likes of Perry, Palin, Bachman, et al, was on the eve of the Civil War and then, in the Nazi beer halls of pre-war Germany. The really sqad thing about all of this, is the deafing silence of the American sheep, err– people! I only pray that I will not be vindicated, after the sheep vote in these sickos and start yelling when its too late!

    August 26, 2011 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
  24. Michael

    So Bachman wants to defund the EPA and NPR and anybody esle that presents a view different from hers (making her and her ilk Fascists) and will do anything to pad her pockets. I can't (and won't) speak for anyone else, but, like a few other posteres herein, am rather fond of clean air and water. Without the EPA, CO2 production will go far beyond the 380 ppm it currently is ... and before anyone barks about "normal" cycles of CO2 / temperture, the highest concentration CO2 has been historically 280 ppm ... and Carbon-12, created by plants, is the vast majority (97%) of the CO2 in the air, meaning that 97% of our CO2 problems stems SOLELY from burning fossile fuels. Nope, Michele, I'd prefer to keep the EPA, thank you very much. Without it, corporations could do whatever they wanted ... and I'm old enough to remember Love Canal.

    August 26, 2011 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
  25. The Other Michael in Houston

    @ Slight Left of Center, do not waste your energy tryin gto explain logic to these mouth breathers. You so called conservatives love to live in your own delusional world and never let things like FACTS get in a good way of a nice conjured up falacy. Nice of you Michelle Bacmann to want to get rid of the EPA. We know she has no chance of being nothing but a visitor in the White House. I do hope she somehow finds a way to win the GOP nomination or even is chosen as VP so we can do the same as we did in 2008, vote the GOP out of government

    August 26, 2011 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
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