Gov. Haley's Q to Bachmann as 'undecided voter'
August 25th, 2011
11:28 PM ET
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Gov. Haley's Q to Bachmann as 'undecided voter'

Charleston, South Carolina (CNN) – The second question at a Charleston town hall with GOP presidential candidate Michele Bachmann came from "another undecided voter," who happened to be the state's governor.

Gov. Nikki Haley walked on stage to James Brown's "I feel good," then asked the Minnesota congresswoman to address an issue that has become a hot topic for Republican candidates to rally around when they campaign through the early primary state.

Haley threw her softball to Bachmann.

"Our president decided to allow the NLRB, which he appoints members to, to try and stop what Boeing is doing in South Carolina. It's the most un-American thing I have ever seen," Haley said. "If you were president, knowing that he's saying that he can't do anything because it's an independent agency. If you were president how would you handle the situation?"

The National Labor Relations Board filed a complaint in April when Boeing decided it wanted to move production from its union-represented plant in Washington to a new plant in South Carolina, a right-to-work state where workers have a choice in joining a union.

The debate has pitted Democrats and Republicans against each other in a fiery debate over jobs. Boeing's critics claim the company is punishing workers for going on strike in Washington. Supporters say Boeing will be bringing 1,000 new jobs to South Carolina.

Bachmann repeated her position, that she would only appoint pro-growth jobs appointees to the labor board.

She also put the board on notice.

"If the NLRB would also be continuing their current stance, they may not last very long. Once they see what I do to the EPA they may shape up," Bachmann said, referring to the Environmental Protection Agency, which she said she would "lock the doors and shut off all the lights" if she became president.

Bachmann took the opportunity to compliment Haley's "pro-growth agenda" and preserving South Carolina as a right-to-work state.

"We need to make sure states like South Carolina are rewarded and not punished," she said.

The governor's participation in a town hall series with Bachmann, organized by Freshman Rep. Tim Scott, came up because she happened to be in town for another event.

"The governor was already in Charleston tonight, and Congressman Scott asked her to stop by. She was thrilled to do so," Haley spokesperson Rob Godfrey said.

Haley has not been shy about getting face time with presidential candidates passing through her state. The first-term governor has said she intends to endorse a candidate before the state's primary, which has a 20-year record of selecting the eventual presidential nominee.

Filed under: 2012 • Boeing • Jobs • Michele Bachmann • South Carolina
soundoff (216 Responses)
  1. Mary

    So she is going to do away with the EPA...ok with her to trash the environment...and put the Labor Relations Board on notice they could be next...ok to screw with the workers and treat them as badly as you wish. Republicans more and more seem to be in favor of taking care of their rich maybe some of that money will rub off on them....and big business (keep donations flooding in) and seem to have forgotten those of us who struggle daily to make ends meet. I say it is time to send the packing...let their rich friends and those big corporations pay their salary...I'm tired of them taking my taxpayer dollars and then stabbing me in the back.

    August 26, 2011 03:12 pm at 3:12 pm |
  2. diridi

    do not vote another GOP idiot...o.k,

    August 26, 2011 03:17 pm at 3:17 pm |
  3. ted

    if you read all of the above there is no wonder that Our country is going off a cliff. whats it matter how we got here we are all to blame.

    August 26, 2011 03:20 pm at 3:20 pm |
  4. MD_Moderate

    Good idea Ms. Bachmann. Let's start with a pilot program where we shut down the EPA in your home town. Then let the rest of us dump all of our hazardous waste in your backyard, since that will be okay with you, right? Then when your hair and teeth fall out, maybe you'll give the matter a little more thought – assuming you have a brain neuron that still fires up.

    August 26, 2011 03:24 pm at 3:24 pm |
  5. mike

    As extreme and the many times she has had a "flub" can't you imagine the absolute disaster she would be in dealing with other world leaders and on the world stage representing us. When we have "our" repersentatives in the worlds eye we have to have the confidence that they will know what nation they are in and what the other nation wants to talk about intelligently and with substance. Going off in la-la land as she does constantly will not work.

    August 26, 2011 03:25 pm at 3:25 pm |
  6. George

    What a lunatic. Close down the EPA and strangle the ability of labor to negotiate their wages and benefits? This is supposed to be the common man's candidate? What have we come to?

    August 26, 2011 03:28 pm at 3:28 pm |
  7. TXJim

    @Romney > Obama...

    Yes GWB had plenty of corporate experience... he ran an oil company into the ground and got bailed out by the Saudis and the Bin Laden family.. He then proceeded to let a Bin Laden and bunch of Saudis (hijackers) allow him to run this country into the ground by financing 2 worthless wars on his Chinese Express credit card..

    Yes Cheney had a lot of corporate experience... He was the CEO of Halliburton, before he was VP and then seemingly the whole time he was VP.. because he kept making them record profits at the expense of future tax payers.. since they didn't pay for the war, but rather put it on the Chinese Express credit card..

    Since when did paying the bills become a GOP priority, they raised the Chinese Express credit card limit, or debt ceiling, whatever you want to call it, 7 times during the Bush Administration...

    Just because that Chinese Express card doesn't have an expiration date, doesn't mean that there isn't one...

    August 26, 2011 03:30 pm at 3:30 pm |
  8. Russ from Md

    @Geoz: I don't belong to a union but I still get all the bennifits that a union member gets. I just don't have to pay the thieves that run the union. Unions have out lived there usefullness. It's all gread now.

    August 26, 2011 03:34 pm at 3:34 pm |
  9. Squealy

    Conservative right wing politicians must think that God is going to either save this planet or prevent its destruction from all teh crap we do to it. This anti-EPA stuff is so short sighted. As if corporations can police themselves. As if!

    August 26, 2011 03:35 pm at 3:35 pm |
  10. Mike

    Boeing's critics claim the company is punishing workers for going on strike in Washington.

    Well I say that's Boeing's right. They can move if they want. Don't like it? Don't work for them. That simple.

    August 26, 2011 03:35 pm at 3:35 pm |
  11. The Real Tom Paine

    @ TEA PARTY Mike:

    Simply moving jobs from one state to another is not creating jobs, its shuffling them, and there is no guarantee that moving to a right-to-work state will create a significant number of jobs. Moving thousands out of WA state will certainly have the opposite impact. With regards to the EPA, which regulations are the ones causing uncertainty, or is it because the regs are actually being enforced? Enforcement does create jobs in the private sector: I work with quality programs all over the country, and there has been a steady increase in the the hiring for those position NOT because of federal enforcement, but because it makes good business sense. Safe places to work generate jobs, and regulatory compliance creates private sector jobs that pay well. I've seen it for years prior to Obama's election, so the idea that regs kill jobs is ridiculous: if a company is going under and they blame regs, they have far greater problems than the regs. You can be very profitable and have millions in fines, but those companies are NOT places people like to work. The bunker mentality you describe is due to their own poor decisions that led to closer scrutiny, not the regs thems elves. If they had the quality programs in place and stuck to them, most companies claiming they are being bullied would be fine. This is something I deal with every day, so I hope you respect waht I'm passing on to you. I know it seems counter-intuitive, buts its been my experience over the last several years.Frankly, its the business community that does not get it: they want the rewards without the responsibility of what their actions produce.

    August 26, 2011 03:41 pm at 3:41 pm |
  12. saywho

    My honey wagon is full – where is your front yard?

    August 26, 2011 03:41 pm at 3:41 pm |

    Haley won't be able to help her when Snookie Palin comes after Bachmann's money and media attention. Perry is already taking Bachmann's poll numbers down. She'll be history soon.

    August 26, 2011 03:41 pm at 3:41 pm |
  14. The Real Tom Paine

    @Fair is Fair

    "I will never understand the liberal way of thinking."
    Count your blessings.

    Really? Show us you can count. If you can, you have a teacher to thank for that.

    August 26, 2011 03:44 pm at 3:44 pm |
  15. Derek

    I don't think Bachmann can even spell 'EPA'

    August 26, 2011 03:46 pm at 3:46 pm |
  16. GaryB

    Bachmann, with her EPA stance, once again demonstrates her faulty grasp on history. Back in the 1960s and early 1970s, corporations, unfettered by EPA regulations, polluted lakes ands rivers so much they caught on fire. These toxic stews proved to be fatal to both the lives, and property values, of many of the folks living near these rivers and lakes. Great for coporate profits, major shareholders and the corporate executves. Not so good for 98% of the rest of the country. The EPA changed this. What Bachmann doesn't seem to grasp is that corporate executives have no problem doing whatever it takes to protect their wealth and self interests. Agencies like the EPA serve as the counter-balance that protects the rest of the country's intererests.

    August 26, 2011 03:46 pm at 3:46 pm |
  17. skyjmpr

    People (especially on the Left) who rail against someone like Bachmann becoming president should watch their comments. After all, our country elected Obama who has much less leadership experience than her. Maybe it's just because he's a man? Sexist leftists!!!!

    Gender has nothing to do with it at all. Barack Obama campaigned on ideas, not vitriol. He also presented himself as thoughtful (as in, capable of thought), even tempered, respectful of opinions that differed from his own, and engaged. Bachmann comes across as none of that, hence the criticism.

    August 26, 2011 03:49 pm at 3:49 pm |
  18. MD_Moderate

    Hey Tea Party Mike,
    What do you do for a living? Are you actually in a business environment? Seems like you listen to conservative talk shows a bit too much. Businesses may use the regulation issue as a smoke screen, but the truth is they aren't hiring because: (A) The demand is not there for their product, or (B) They found out that they can stretch workers until they break and they know the worker won't quit because they don't think they can find another job. Businesses have always screamed about regulations, because the fewer regs, the more a business can cheat and make more $$$. But lack of regs is a major reason the economy went down the tubes in 2008 – so is that really where you want to return? The private sector has more cash today with Obama as president then they did during the Bush years – so they ain't hurtin' as bad as they say they are. Please Mike, expand your horizons and listen to opinions that differ a bit from your own. Thank you.

    August 26, 2011 03:49 pm at 3:49 pm |
  19. dplandry

    Incidentally, why have we not seen Michele Bachmann's birth certificate yet?

    August 26, 2011 03:50 pm at 3:50 pm |
  20. heraldofwhoa

    "Boeing decided it wanted to move production..." Get your story straight Shawna, Boeing is only planning new production in SC. It is not moving any current work to SC. Nice try on the spin...

    August 26, 2011 03:50 pm at 3:50 pm |
  21. david in seattle

    I am more horrified by her wanting to shut down the EPA. Let's return to the good old days of killing off our National Symbol - the eagle - having companies dump mercury and other heavy metals anywhere they want, having lakes that catch fire, having rivers with no I need to go on?

    August 26, 2011 03:51 pm at 3:51 pm |
  22. dplandry

    Michelle, you have no chance of of becoming President, but we'd like you to get to work right away on your less-than-$2 gasoline plan. That would endear you to millions.

    August 26, 2011 03:53 pm at 3:53 pm |
  23. GoldenGate

    Typical ignorant statements by someone who doesn't know anything about being president. I sure hope Bachmann drops out of the race soon. There is NOTHING wrong with government regulation. You don't have to choose between no regulation and bad regulations – the regulations can be adjusted. Time and time again deregulation leads to dishonest business people ripping the rest of us off – Enron comes to mind. CA lost billions in an artificial energy crisis created by Enron for their own profit.

    August 26, 2011 03:54 pm at 3:54 pm |
  24. Positive

    End of the epa under most of the Republican candidates.

    Folks, you better really understand what you're voting for if you are considering voting GOP. No EPA(lots of pollution), no business regulations (severely unstable economy with no consumer protection), no medicare (really, you don't think that little voucher is going to help), no social security (it will be "privatized" right into Wall St hands), no minimum wage, no insurance if you have pre-existing conditions. Welcome to the 3rd world.

    August 26, 2011 03:56 pm at 3:56 pm |
  25. The Real Tom Paine

    @Russ from Md

    @Geoz: I don't belong to a union but I still get all the bennifits that a union member gets. I just don't have to pay the thieves that run the union. Unions have out lived there usefullness. It's all gread now.

    The "bennifit" you never took advantage of was education. The reason you have the pay of a union member is because of that union, not because your employer values you. They would cut your pay today if they felt it would benefit them. I've never been a union member, either: I don't regard unions as perfect, and there are mmore than enough examples of unions that became corrupt, but they are needed now more than ever for the people in those jobs. People don't stop having faith because of the failures of religious leaders, do they? As far as " gread(?)" is concerned, I hope you never become a victim of your boss' " gread".

    August 26, 2011 04:01 pm at 4:01 pm |
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